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mlssry
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Re: This forum has lost it's mind
Explanation of what's happening

JoshenReborn wrote:

Guy's watch this video it will explain exactly what is happening here, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUrAecShLTY it's so clear!

lol Love it! Very Happy

Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 9:53 pm

david718
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Joined: 18 Aug 2010
Posts: 29

Re: ep 3 ending location

Cap'n Slim wrote:

Mulligan Stew wrote:

http://terminationstation.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/nyc-subway-map11.jpg

here is the map I'm using. Look at the Roosevelt Ave stop and compare it to the dots behind Larry at 6:00. they're practically identical. I think this is huge.

Does anyone know how recently the G was stopped and the M started going there?

I think this is the most prominent clue yet, actually.

Due to the MTA financial crisis, the G was to be cut back from the Forest Hills � 71st Avenue station to Court Square at all times beginning June 27, 2010.[1] However, due to planned track repairs during the times the G normally ran on the Queens Boulevard Line, it ceased running north of Court Square on April 19.

On March 19, 2010, it was reported that the plan had been changed and that the M train would continue, albeit operating via the new combined route. Instead, the V train would be eliminated, and the M would be recolored orange, to designate the IND Sixth Avenue Line as the M train's Manhattan trunk line. Many MTA board members opposed the elimination of the M designation, saying that riders would be more comfortable with an M designation rather than a V designation, and because the M has been around longer than the V.[2][3] The new routing began on Monday, June 28, 2010.[4]

The V train was also orange...

Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 10:07 pm

DPNJ12
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Joined: 14 Oct 2009
Posts: 38

so about that "Gift"...

so a few days ago 2 posters (their names escape me I apologize) were talking about this big "gift" the PM's gave us. Any chance that things have played out enough for you to share your thoughts with us about that?

Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 10:08 pm

david718
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Joined: 18 Aug 2010
Posts: 29

Port of Courtland

So I know we went over this before However Considering that the first stop in Queens is the Court Square/Courthouse Square/23rd St & Ely Station, could this be the Court of Portland? It does have 5 trains that stop there. The E,M,G,7 and the <7>. The <7> only runs on weekdays until 10:00 pm.

Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 10:35 pm

SpiceCowboy
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Joined: 06 Aug 2010
Posts: 70

Re: ep 3 ending location

Cap'n Slim wrote:

Mulligan Stew wrote:

Does anyone know how recently the G was stopped and the M started going there?

I think this is the most prominent clue yet, actually.

Late June I believe.

Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 10:39 pm

Sin Vraal
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Joined: 28 Nov 2002
Posts: 219
Location: NJ

Re: so about that "Gift"...

DPNJ12 wrote:

Naw better not to ask, let it be a surprise when the rest of us figure out how to get whatever it is for ourselves hehe.

Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 12:28 am

Sin Vraal
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Joined: 28 Nov 2002
Posts: 219
Location: NJ

Re: This forum has lost it's mind
Explanation of what's happening

JoshenReborn wrote:

Guy's watch this video it will explain exactly what is happening here, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUrAecShLTY it's so clear!

Not everybody is filled with gold fever. I've got a genuine interest in the puppetry, production value, and puzzles. Money after those three, in my priority list.

Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 12:30 am

Guest
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I found some possible homages that have not been mentioned:

Giant Turtle = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turtle_%28submarine%29
Apple vs. Pickle = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Pickle_%281800%29
CAPTAIN $1869.00 = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Captain_%281869%29

-FK

Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 2:01 am

CatsMeow
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Anonymous wrote:

If I'm not mistaken, all of these have been mentioned in previous posts.

Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 8:15 am

prodigalOne
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Joined: 23 Sep 2010
Posts: 84

funny story

It is funny how chasing a homage can lead to some serious side tracking. I bit the Horatio Nelson homage, and I got to the point where I found a Trafalgar named company off of a few matching subway lines near court plaza, and a quick google map search startled me when it showed a company across named FORTUNE SOCIETY. After useless search I realized I was on to nothing, and quickly just chalked it up to coincidence

Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 8:39 am

KPE
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Joined: 21 Sep 2010
Posts: 17

Re: ep 4

UDbmas wrote:

Could it mean reverse the segments of just this episode, and therefore the numbers? Maybe re-edit so that transcript goes:

fellowtraveler wrote:

Below is the transcript for the fourth episode:

[BEGINNING OF VIDEO]

...

[END OF VIDEO]

43 - 28 (furlongs) - 42 - 41
Does that do anything at all...other than confuse me?

I'll check in tomorrow! Nite all.

I had thought about that as well. I just wanted to throw in that if that it could also be 34 - 82 - 24 -14 if you were to flip everything horizontally.

Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 9:15 am

Spaniard
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Captain $1869
if a clue, shouldn't the other pairs of names and dollar amounts be also?

One poster refers to some possible allusions and another notes how one can get sidetracked by homages.

Giant Turtle = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turtle_%28submarine%29
Apple vs. Pickle = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Pickle_%281800%29
CAPTAIN $1869.00 = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Captain_%281869%29

I have no idea whether Captain $1869 is intended as a clue -- if that is, shouldn't Crothers $1337 etc. be a clue also?

But given it is going to be up into the 90s today in some places, let's get sidetracked so long as it involves a walk in a park.

The link posts that H.M.S. Pickle brought the news of Nelson's victory at the Battle of Trafalgar.

FWIW, in regards to the Pickle v. Apple clue, the Lord Nelson apple is a an apple named after Admiral Horatio Nelson (1758�1805), British hero of the Battle of Trafalgar.

As suggested on August 22 in a forum post, Nelson's leadership at the Battle of Trafalgar is a feature of Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World and is subject of the discussion of the change of course and serving of hasty pudding.

At the dinner celebration, the new course SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST is set -- in which the ship is turned around so as to head into the sun. (That would be North by Northeast).

Captain Jack Aubrey of The Surprise (played by Russell Crowe) is at the table, and he gives a yarn about his boyhood encounter with Admiral Nelson. Crowe stuffs the hasty pudding that he has fashioned into the shape of his nemesis into his mouth to the cheers of his fellow celebrants.

Was the puppeteer's mentor the esteemed Nelson (compared to Beatles for music by one interviewer), the voice of Count Von Count, who lives in Belvedere Castle, which overlooks the Turtle Pond, Delacorte Theatre etc.

Well, if you actively enjoy getting sidetracked, note that HMS Captain (1869) had two turrets. It was a ship. So go to the two turrets at Belvedere Castle (think of it as the ship).

Now consider whether Mulligan's exclamation that he can't sink or swim has any meaning. (I have no idea).

If one wanted to brainstorm pickle vis-a-vis Nelson further one would wonder if there is a connection to Mercury, who was a friend of the other allegorical figures (e.g., "Victory"), had a winged hat and winged feet (see cluing at Columbus Circle), and carried a staff wrapped by a snake.

(But the only Mercury I know is associated with the Grand Central clock.)

Separately, for the sake of completeness, stop by the Natural History museum exhibit of wildlife photography on birds in flight or on Exploring Mercury with the MESSENGER at 79 Street And Central Park West, New York.

Everyone dismisses the Belvedere Castle and that's okay -- there's much to explore with all these other intriguing hypotheses in other boroughs.

But don't mind getting sidetracked. Brainstorming possibilities is the best path to take under any interpretation. (It's best not to discourage someone's brainstorming and instead just seek to develop your own theories).

But if anyone does end up going to the Castle area, photo recon could usefully also include the bear statue near Delacorte clock -- it's tops. (Is it right near a soda advertisement)?
http://www.pbase.com/hjsteed/image/100608876

It seems that too little attention has been paid to the issue of getting the times back, whatever it takes.

I think people should remain open to the idea that the subway references are not clues but part them telling you about their bios and the years they spent performing in subways.

I think a bio of the puppeteers might do much to help us understand the clues.

I would only mention that as to MASTER AND COMMANDER, it was all about choosing the correct course.

Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 9:34 am

SpiceCowboy
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Posts: 70

Re: Captain $1869
if a clue, shouldn't the other pairs of names and dollar amounts be also?

Spaniard wrote:

Everyone dismisses the Belvedere Castle and that's okay -- there's much to explore with all these other intriguing hypotheses in other boroughs.

But don't mind getting sidetracked. Brainstorming possibilities is the best path to take under any interpretation.

Are we brainstorming the possible locations the clue point to, or the possible contortions we can make to force the clues to fit it into a predetermined location? One seems productive, the other spinning wheels and runs counter to the point of brainstorming.

When I watched the first episode, one of the first things I thought of was Belvedere Castle. It seemed simple and obvious -- so simple, that even if the treasure were an envelope, it would have been found within a day, (even perhaps by accident, since BC is a super high traffic area). Anyway, just in case, I took a close read of the FAQ to check on a couple of things. Here were the salient points from my observations:

"It's buried." - Can't get any more explicit than that. I was hoping to read that it wasn't buried in Central Park (which would mean it could be hung there for example).

"it's NOT in Central Park". Note, they aren't saying its not under the ground in Central Park, they are saying its NOT IN Central Park.

Brainstorming can be a useful exercise, and as open as I once was to it being in Central Park, the fact is if was where you thought it was, it would have been discovered a long time ago. Now you clearly have a lot of talent and energy but don't you think the efforts might be better served by opening up your own line of thinking on this to other possibilities? You know, like a brainstorm?

Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 10:00 am

prodigalOne
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Joined: 23 Sep 2010
Posts: 84

Great notes Spaniard! I agree, the brainstorming that comes from taking the bait of a homage is a mission in itself, albeit a satisfying one, if you take the message at the end of video 8 that THE TREASURE WAS WITH US ALL ALONG! New York is beautiful, and I intend to visit Bryant Park for no reason whatsoever, and Prospect Park later today for a few possible side tracked reasons Wink

Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 10:04 am

SpiceCowboy
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Joined: 06 Aug 2010
Posts: 70

Gifts

I think these "gifts" are buried with the gold VB/VD found and with (Daniels?) relatives...

From the FAQ:

"You're looking for the treasure chest. That's it. All the clues you need are found on the welostourgold website. Nowhere else. We did not leave any physical clues for you to find.

You might stumble across parchment from Mulligan advertising the site, or chest itself. Those are the only things we've physically hidden."

This leaves open three possibilities:

- The "gift" is in the form of an electronic communication. (Not a lot of "time and money" involved in that.)
- The "gift" is a piece of parchment (maybe the site refers to the site of the
location of the gold). Again, not a lot of time and money involved. Also, not a great way to preserve a clue.
- The "gift" is completely made up by the poster.

Guess which one I think...

Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 10:06 am

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