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merelyviral
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Billy Ocean is good because they mention Leslie Sebastian Charles
the name Gary is also mentioned, matches with Coleman

PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 3:15 pm
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Cap'n Slim
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Re: Streets near Marine Park

jrc wrote:
It is possible to find some famous people with one of the first names the commentator in Episode 5 is called and the last name of one of the streets near the snake/turtle. Of course, since there are a large number of famous people, and quite a few streets, and several first names, this would not be very good unless nearly all of the streets and names matched up, preferably in order.

The names are:
Billy
Bob
James
John
Jimmy
Carol
Wynona
Don
Lance

The streets are:
Flatbush
Hendrickson
Coleman
Kimball
Ryder
38th-31st
Marine
Madison
Burnett
Stuart
Gerritsen

Plumb 1st
Plumb 2nd
Knapp
Brigham
Bragg
Coyle
Ford
Batchelder
Brown
Haring
Nostrand
29-27
Bedford
25-21
Ocean
19-12
Coney Island

Quentin
R
Fillmore
S T U V
Whitney
W X
Allen
Bijou
Channel
Devon
Everett
Florence
Gotham
Bartlett
Cyrus
Seba
Lois

The best coincidence that possibly indicates a clue, because of the unusual first name and slightly unusual last name, is Winona Ryder. There are several other matches with the streets near Ryder:

Don Burnett (actor)
Carol Burnett (comedienne)
Winona Ryder (actress)
James Madison (president)
Billy Madison (Adam Sandler film)
Billy Kimball (Editor Harvard Lampoon, Simpsons writer, NYC native)
Billy Burnette (Fleetwood Mac)
Billy Ocean (Ocean Avenue)
Lance Henrikson (Hal Vukovich) (Hendrickson Street?)
Jimi Hendrix (Hendrickson??)
John S Burnett, author of Modern Piracy and Terror on the High Seas

This is far from using all of the first names or covering all the streets, or even just those that intersect Avenue U. So unless someone finds more matches, I think these do not indicate this area very conclusively.


So, I had a similar thought on this.

Yes... the names match up. Nearly perfectly. Although I had some changes and differences (James Madison, Jimmy Stuart, John Kimball, etc.)...

But the ANNOUNCERS said these names. NOT the Pirates. If we were to assume that we are supposed to be where these streets are in Episode 5, and where the "turtle" is in Episode 5... and then where the "snake" is in Episode 6.... then what's the significance of the pirates cards, and their statements?

It seems to me too easy and that we are being "duped". It all boils down to decoding the Pirate's clues correctly, and I think ignoring these street names might be key.

Again... just my opinion.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 3:18 pm
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Dragonswood
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Re: My girlfriend says I am talking in my sleep.

Cap'n Slim wrote:
Apparently, I blurt out things in my sleep about this hunt.

I think i said "Spaniard is RIGHT!"

(much respect)

Speaking of Spaniard...

Here ya go! I have some other pics of the Jim Henson and John Stone benches, but they seem to have been stored on the camera's internal memory, and not the card. If I can find the cable (which is why it's taken me so long to upload), I will oblige. Incidentally, there was nothing under or near them.

This is Cleopatra's Needle near the Museum of Modern Art. Note: there are FOUR crabs underneath. I checked the surrounding area, as you suggested... and noted where it might point at different times... but nothing stood out. I did this for shits and giggles, as nothing really seemed to lead us there, and because you have been so diligent in your daftitude. There was nothing taped under the sign, or nearby, and the ground around it is protected and undiggable, as it is likely to cause a scene.

I will get to Belvedere Castle for the same reasons.

Please to enjoy.

P.S.: These are vertical panoramic images. The other pictures are also stored in the internal memory.


You should be able to go to your picture and move to card. then you can bypass the cable.I forget to change setting to memory card every time I change the batteries and have to do that.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 3:22 pm
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Why the Parks?

I've been lurking for quite a while, and I have a completely naive question. Why is there such an intense focus on public parks? Are there no other areas where the puppeteers may have hidden the gold? Call me crazy, but I was thinking more along the lines of a plot in a community garden. I would be too scared to go digging in a New York City park. Are there no rules against it?

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Cap'n Slim
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Re: Why the Parks?

Lurking wrote:
I've been lurking for quite a while, and I have a completely naive question. Why is there such an intense focus on public parks? Are there no other areas where the puppeteers may have hidden the gold? Call me crazy, but I was thinking more along the lines of a plot in a community garden. I would be too scared to go digging in a New York City park. Are there no rules against it?


Funny you should ask.

As far as I can tell? NO! There are no specific rules about digging in a park. There are explicit NO DOGS, and NO OPEN CONTAINERS, and NO FIRES rules set, but NO PUBLICLY POSTED SIGNS about digging in Public Parks. Perhaps it is a written law, and not posted, but in the major parks I've been to, Ive read every sign. There are some that say you cannot remove plants/shrubbery, but nothing "digging a hole" specific.

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Cap'n Slim
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Re: My girlfriend says I am talking in my sleep.

Dragonswood wrote:
Cap'n Slim wrote:
Apparently, I blurt out things in my sleep about this hunt.

I think i said "Spaniard is RIGHT!"

(much respect)

Speaking of Spaniard...

Here ya go! I have some other pics of the Jim Henson and John Stone benches, but they seem to have been stored on the camera's internal memory, and not the card. If I can find the cable (which is why it's taken me so long to upload), I will oblige. Incidentally, there was nothing under or near them.

This is Cleopatra's Needle near the Museum of Modern Art. Note: there are FOUR crabs underneath. I checked the surrounding area, as you suggested... and noted where it might point at different times... but nothing stood out. I did this for shits and giggles, as nothing really seemed to lead us there, and because you have been so diligent in your daftitude. There was nothing taped under the sign, or nearby, and the ground around it is protected and undiggable, as it is likely to cause a scene.

I will get to Belvedere Castle for the same reasons.

Please to enjoy.

P.S.: These are vertical panoramic images. The other pictures are also stored in the internal memory.


You should be able to go to your picture and move to card. then you can bypass the cable.I forget to change setting to memory card every time I change the batteries and have to do that.


For some reason I cannot even SEE the pictures stored in internal memory when the card is installed Sad

PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 3:31 pm
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Re: Why the Parks?

Lurking wrote:
I've been lurking for quite a while, and I have a completely naive question. Why is there such an intense focus on public parks? Are there no other areas where the puppeteers may have hidden the gold? Call me crazy, but I was thinking more along the lines of a plot in a community garden. I would be too scared to go digging in a New York City park. Are there no rules against it?


These parks we are talking about right now are not necessarily the site of the gold, just points along the way. There are parks and there are parks, too. Many parks have areas where digging would be unnoticed. Then there are beaches, private land, many other suggested not-really-buried ideas that have been mentioned. But we will know it when we have solved it, so I don't think that we can use this at the moment. We can definitely rule out a few places as the final site, but that doesn't get us any closer, and we can't rule out anywhere as being along the trail.

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Parks

I am not trying to rule out any location along the path. My main concern, perhaps poorly intimated, came from the earlier post suggesting that someone had dug a large hole near the turtle in Marine Park. It just makes me sad that people may be running around digging random holes when that is clearly not what the creators of the video series wanted. For what it's worth I did find that it is against the New York City Parks Regulations to have gardening implements (e.g. shovels) in public parks unless it has been designated otherwise.

New York City Parks and Recreation Rules and Regulations Section 1.4.b.4:

"No person shall possess any tools commonly used for gardening, or any plant, tree, shrub or other vegetation, in any park except where such possession is specifically designated to be permissible by the Commissioner."

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Touch the park?

Thanks merelyviral, I had missed Gary for some reason. That accounts for Coleman. Jimmy Stewart for Stuart is ok, I guess, though it seems they could have come up with a better match.

mlssry wrote:
If you only use streets that touch the park they match up.


All of the ones in my list touch the park somewhere, but if you only use streets that touch the north side, and ignore Gerritsen, Marine, Flatbush, Fillmore and the lettered and numbered streets, then they match. Ignoring Marine on the grounds that it isn't usually a last name and is the name of the park, and Gerritsen and Flatbush on the grounds that they are major streets may be justified. Ignoring Fillmore? I think it needs a match, though it does run along the edge, perpendicular to the others. And the Hendricksen match is questionable. Anyone have a better one?

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Re: Parks

Lurking wrote:
I am not trying to rule out any location along the path. My main concern, perhaps poorly intimated, came from the earlier post suggesting that someone had dug a large hole near the turtle in Marine Park. It just makes me sad that people may be running around digging random holes when that is clearly not what the creators of the video series wanted. For what it's worth I did find that it is against the New York City Parks Regulations to have gardening implements (e.g. shovels) in public parks unless it has been designated otherwise.

New York City Parks and Recreation Rules and Regulations Section 1.4.b.4:

"No person shall possess any tools commonly used for gardening, or any plant, tree, shrub or other vegetation, in any park except where such possession is specifically designated to be permissible by the Commissioner."


Let the idiots (not all of you)... i mean treasure hunters, keep searching parks that the treasure can not be in. You are correct...it is 100% ILLEGAL to dig, or bury anything on public park land. But hey..what do I know..right?

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names

Where are the name references from?

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The names match.. SORTA

I'll admit there is a large coincidence in these names of the streets...

I noticed it awhile ago, but doubted it highly... because I noticed it OUT OF ORDER, and AFTER I FOUND the snake in Marine Park.

So let's say I found the week after Episode 5. So... in Episode 3, I'm in the subway headed for Station X. THEN, Episode 4 (well.. we all know about this being out of place) and then BAM! I'm in Marine Park looking at roads that don't have a subway stop near, or through them? And Episode 6 I'm near the snake with others getting off at a "port" that "puts em right behind ye"?

What port?

Closest "ports" are the Flatbush Ave. station (2, 5) and one HELL of a walk....

and Avenue M - Sheepshead Bay on the B/Q which are ALSO ridiculous walks.

(KoolAid: The names came from Episode 5. The dealers called each other random names throughout).

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Re: Parks

Lurking wrote:
I am not trying to rule out any location along the path. My main concern, perhaps poorly intimated, came from the earlier post suggesting that someone had dug a large hole near the turtle in Marine Park. It just makes me sad that people may be running around digging random holes when that is clearly not what the creators of the video series wanted. For what it's worth I did find that it is against the New York City Parks Regulations to have gardening implements (e.g. shovels) in public parks unless it has been designated otherwise.

New York City Parks and Recreation Rules and Regulations Section 1.4.b.4:

"No person shall possess any tools commonly used for gardening, or any plant, tree, shrub or other vegetation, in any park except where such possession is specifically designated to be permissible by the Commissioner."


All I said was that it was NOT PUBLICLY POSTED to NOT DIG. If you've found a law that states otherwise, then you have helped us all out. Thanks.

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Re: Streets near Marine Park

Cap'n Slim wrote:

But the ANNOUNCERS said these names. NOT the Pirates. If we were to assume that we are supposed to be where these streets are in Episode 5, and where the "turtle" is in Episode 5... and then where the "snake" is in Episode 6.... then what's the significance of the pirates cards, and their statements?

It seems to me too easy and that we are being "duped". It all boils down to decoding the Pirate's clues correctly, and I think ignoring these street names might be key.

Marine Park could easily be a red herring. It could easily not be a red herring, either a stop along the way or even the location of the treasure (probably not near either playground however). The VM could have done it either way. We won't know until we have at least a more complete solution. While I have argued for self-imposing a reasonable filter, I don't think it is good to outright ignore anything that is clearly intentional in the videos at this point. So I am just trying to figure out if it is clearly intentional.

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Re: Parks

CommonSense2 wrote:
Lurking wrote:
I am not trying to rule out any location along the path. My main concern, perhaps poorly intimated, came from the earlier post suggesting that someone had dug a large hole near the turtle in Marine Park. It just makes me sad that people may be running around digging random holes when that is clearly not what the creators of the video series wanted. For what it's worth I did find that it is against the New York City Parks Regulations to have gardening implements (e.g. shovels) in public parks unless it has been designated otherwise.

New York City Parks and Recreation Rules and Regulations Section 1.4.b.4:

"No person shall possess any tools commonly used for gardening, or any plant, tree, shrub or other vegetation, in any park except where such possession is specifically designated to be permissible by the Commissioner."


Let the idiots (not all of you)... i mean treasure hunters, keep searching parks that the treasure can not be in. You are correct...it is 100% ILLEGAL to dig, or bury anything on public park land. But hey..what do I know..right?


CommonSense... if you want to be a part of this, then just be a part of it. There is no need to continue with the attitude on every post. Ya dig?

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