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Cap'n Slim
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Re: Streets near Marine Park

jrc wrote:
Cap'n Slim wrote:

But the ANNOUNCERS said these names. NOT the Pirates. If we were to assume that we are supposed to be where these streets are in Episode 5, and where the "turtle" is in Episode 5... and then where the "snake" is in Episode 6.... then what's the significance of the pirates cards, and their statements?

It seems to me too easy and that we are being "duped". It all boils down to decoding the Pirate's clues correctly, and I think ignoring these street names might be key.

Marine Park could easily be a red herring. It could easily not be a red herring, either a stop along the way or even the location of the treasure (probably not near either playground however). The VM could have done it either way. We won't know until we have at least a more complete solution. While I have argued for self-imposing a reasonable filter, I don't think it is good to outright ignore anything that is clearly intentional in the videos at this point. So I am just trying to figure out if it is clearly intentional.


I agree, JRC. I am just putting the possibility out there as to WHY this might be a red herring (the announcers).

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Koolaid4
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names

Thanks. I'll have to check out that episode again and pay attention to all the names.

Just from google, it seems that the majority of marine park is water, golf courses and baseball fields. Is that really the case?

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jrc
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Clue-type order

The pirates were kind enough to tell us exactly where Tom's numbers belonged. They may or may not be as scrupulous in the order of all their clues. And, as Cap'n pointed out, the pirates did not say these names. That might mean they are to be ignored or might mean just that they are not "codes" in the way the Captain used the word. They still could be intended as supplementary clues, not necessarily following a strict sequence the way the main clues seem to do. Well, sort of seem to do, especially considering Episode 4. Dunno

I wish I could be sure that everything was in a certain order, but I'm not. The Captain's profile video, where the turtle was mentioned, might be completely out of sync too. Arrgh! Confused I will really be talking like a pirate after a lot of this.

Anyway I see your point, Cap'n. But I'm glad I asked, because with a possible name for Stuart and definitely Coleman, I'm now much more sure it is intentional.

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Re: Touch the park?

jrc wrote:
And the Hendricksen match is questionable. Anyone have a better one?


... but the Hal Vukovich connection is awesome!

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Re: Okay... soooooo

Cap'n Slim wrote:


I'm fairly sure I know what George and his crew were up to.

I'm curious if their mission was fruitful for anything, if not the treasure itself.

My feeling is this.... they found out where the puppeteers live, or hang out.... be it a bar or what have you... and decided to stake-out and watch to see if they would check the location.... especially if someone had made a claim to have found it.

Since there was no report last night... and George was logged in for a short time around 8:00pm, I'm assuming they were unsuccessful.

Look... I am ALL FOR a Kobayashi Maru solution to this game. So, if one DID find the puppeteers watering hole, and one thought that they could make a claim to finding the gold at 6pm, and time it to when the Yankees game ends, and knew that the puppeteers were Yankees fans, and would check the gold AFTER the game yesterday, well then, that's a pretty good back-door plan, brother! If it worked I would have applauded you and if I thought of it, I wouldn't be above trying it.

Now....

Now... I haven't received mine yet... but here's what you do. You take a SCREEN SHOT of the CUT-OUT FORM from the comic book in Episode 6. Then you do exactly what the monkey does... mail it in and wait for a response. CommonSense (the ORIGINAL CommonSense) claims that he got a package via priority mail from the address in Wyoming. Now as I said, I haven't received mine yet, so I'm not entirely sure what is coming, but here's how I determined it to be at least POSSIBLE...

Attached is a pic from a previous project of one of our puppeteers. The website is called helpmegetag5.com, and a simple visit to it will give you the gist of things... but the screen shot I am providing.... apparently they have a friend from Wyoming. With this sort of connection, it would seem possible to have someone there sending out packages to anyone that mails to them.






This will be my last post on this board at least for awhile for the following reasons.

Number one CapNSlim ... where the hell do you get off making bogus slandering claims like that? How dare you on a public forum no less make any implication that I, or anyone else is stalking these guys? That is completely absurd and highly disrespectful. But I am flattered that you are monitoring what times I login to this site.

Number two: VralllSin or whatever your Ultima Online name was that I really dont remember nor care to look it up ... I asked a simple respectful question weeks ago and you shut it down as if youre the savior of the board, complete with all your sheep bahhing their rallying cries behind you. Meanwhile homeboy CapNSlim over here takes it (as he ironically said) to "another level"...and thats okay with you? Odd that you pick your battles.

Number three: "6pm Yankee Game" ... I'll expose it; yesterday was the last game of the MLB Regular Season. When posts when up that "hunt ends at 6pm" that was because The Yankees vs BoSox started at 1pm and I wanted to watch the game. Was my last chance to heckle Jason Varitek. Had absolutely nothing to do with the contest creator's taste in baseball teams or anything of that nature. CapNSlim PM'd me several times about the "why 6pm" and I gave him the above reasoning in a response. So much for PM's being ya know "private".

To set a few things straight with the various idiocy posted in the past 24 hours:

"The Gifts" - Yes three tangible goods were received. Will I share the information as to what they were? No..and why should I when I'm being disrespected on here.

See what's ironic CapSnapIntoASlimJimLikeRandySavage is this:

We are 99.9% certain we know where this treasure is located. We went to the spot last night at 6pm as we said we would and everything lined up perfectly (complete with two suspicious looking people watching our every move while texting on their phones). I do not know if the treasure chest contains physical coins , a voucher , or as someone said on here recently "would set off a trap to alarm the puppeteers". That being said, out of respect to the hard work put into making these episodes a phone call was placed from the nearest payphone at 7:15pm. Answering machine picked up. We're not doing this for the money, its something fun to do in free time and would like to end it in a tasteful way. $10,000 split two ways is not going to make or break us, however the payoff of this contest could make or break the creators. We will return in a few days and repeat.
"Heeeey Heeeey its ****** please leave a message". And to be clear; respectfully.


Oh and Mr CapnSlim ...since you're oh so bright digging holes in public parks ... I'll shine this light on for you since others have jumped on what we knew from the begining:

In May 2008 a law was passed in NYC which banned digging in all five boroughs of NYC...ironically stemmed from people doing "treasure hunts" with metal detectors. I am however glad that I have your PM's with your IP address admitting to "digging up the park...". $115 fine by the way. Keep it classy Mr DJ.

Good luck all.
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Cap'n Slim
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Episode 3 /4

So... we still don't have a definite hit for the "Port of Courtland", do we?

Are we back to that? It seems to all boil down to figuring that out.

The following are possibilities

1) Columbus Circle
2) Jackson Hts / Roosevelt Ave.
3) DeKalb Ave.
4) Forest Hills/71 Ave.
5) Borough Hall

Does anyone else care to add any other stations? and why?

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Cap'n Slim
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Re: Okay... soooooo

GeorgeKaplan wrote:
Cap'n Slim wrote:


I'm fairly sure I know what George and his crew were up to.

I'm curious if their mission was fruitful for anything, if not the treasure itself.

My feeling is this.... they found out where the puppeteers live, or hang out.... be it a bar or what have you... and decided to stake-out and watch to see if they would check the location.... especially if someone had made a claim to have found it.

Since there was no report last night... and George was logged in for a short time around 8:00pm, I'm assuming they were unsuccessful.

Look... I am ALL FOR a Kobayashi Maru solution to this game. So, if one DID find the puppeteers watering hole, and one thought that they could make a claim to finding the gold at 6pm, and time it to when the Yankees game ends, and knew that the puppeteers were Yankees fans, and would check the gold AFTER the game yesterday, well then, that's a pretty good back-door plan, brother! If it worked I would have applauded you and if I thought of it, I wouldn't be above trying it.

Now....

Now... I haven't received mine yet... but here's what you do. You take a SCREEN SHOT of the CUT-OUT FORM from the comic book in Episode 6. Then you do exactly what the monkey does... mail it in and wait for a response. CommonSense (the ORIGINAL CommonSense) claims that he got a package via priority mail from the address in Wyoming. Now as I said, I haven't received mine yet, so I'm not entirely sure what is coming, but here's how I determined it to be at least POSSIBLE...

Attached is a pic from a previous project of one of our puppeteers. The website is called helpmegetag5.com, and a simple visit to it will give you the gist of things... but the screen shot I am providing.... apparently they have a friend from Wyoming. With this sort of connection, it would seem possible to have someone there sending out packages to anyone that mails to them.






This will be my last post on this board at least for awhile for the following reasons.

Number one CapNSlim ... where the hell do you get off making bogus slandering claims like that? How dare you on a public forum no less make any implication that I, or anyone else is stalking these guys? That is completely absurd and highly disrespectful. But I am flattered that you are monitoring what times I login to this site.

Number two: VralllSin or whatever your Ultima Online name was that I really dont remember nor care to look it up ... I asked a simple respectful question weeks ago and you shut it down as if youre the savior of the board, complete with all your sheep bahhing their rallying cries behind you. Meanwhile homeboy CapNSlim over here takes it (as he ironically said) to "another level"...and thats okay with you? Odd that you pick your battles.

Number three: "6pm Yankee Game" ... I'll expose it; yesterday was the last game of the MLB Regular Season. When posts when up that "hunt ends at 6pm" that was because The Yankees vs BoSox started at 1pm and I wanted to watch the game. Was my last chance to heckle Jason Varitek. Had absolutely nothing to do with the contest creator's taste in baseball teams or anything of that nature. CapNSlim PM'd me several times about the "why 6pm" and I gave him the above reasoning in a response. So much for PM's being ya know "private".

To set a few things straight with the various idiocy posted in the past 24 hours:

"The Gifts" - Yes three tangible goods were received. Will I share the information as to what they were? No..and why should I when I'm being disrespected on here.

See what's ironic CapSnapIntoASlimJimLikeRandySavage is this:

We are 99.9% certain we know where this treasure is located. We went to the spot last night at 6pm as we said we would and everything lined up perfectly (complete with two suspicious looking people watching our every move while texting on their phones). I do not know if the treasure chest contains physical coins , a voucher , or as someone said on here recently "would set off a trap to alarm the puppeteers". That being said, out of respect to the hard work put into making these episodes a phone call was placed from the nearest payphone at 7:15pm. Answering machine picked up. We're not doing this for the money, its something fun to do in free time and would like to end it in a tasteful way. $10,000 split two ways is not going to make or break us, however the payoff of this contest could make or break the creators. We will return in a few days and repeat.
"Heeeey Heeeey its ****** please leave a message". And to be clear; respectfully.


Oh and Mr CapnSlim ...since you're oh so bright digging holes in public parks ... I'll shine this light on for you since others have jumped on what we knew from the begining:

In May 2008 a law was passed in NYC which banned digging in all five boroughs of NYC...ironically stemmed from people doing "treasure hunts" with metal detectors. I am however glad that I have your PM's with your IP address admitting to "digging up the park...". $115 fine by the way. Keep it classy Mr DJ.

Good luck all.


Fine! Great! Go get your winnings then! Why do you even CARE what goes on here anymore???

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Koolaid4
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Re: Okay... soooooo

GeorgeKaplan wrote:
Cap'n Slim wrote:


I'm fairly sure I know what George and his crew were up to.

I'm curious if their mission was fruitful for anything, if not the treasure itself.

My feeling is this.... they found out where the puppeteers live, or hang out.... be it a bar or what have you... and decided to stake-out and watch to see if they would check the location.... especially if someone had made a claim to have found it.

Since there was no report last night... and George was logged in for a short time around 8:00pm, I'm assuming they were unsuccessful.

Look... I am ALL FOR a Kobayashi Maru solution to this game. So, if one DID find the puppeteers watering hole, and one thought that they could make a claim to finding the gold at 6pm, and time it to when the Yankees game ends, and knew that the puppeteers were Yankees fans, and would check the gold AFTER the game yesterday, well then, that's a pretty good back-door plan, brother! If it worked I would have applauded you and if I thought of it, I wouldn't be above trying it.

Now....

Now... I haven't received mine yet... but here's what you do. You take a SCREEN SHOT of the CUT-OUT FORM from the comic book in Episode 6. Then you do exactly what the monkey does... mail it in and wait for a response. CommonSense (the ORIGINAL CommonSense) claims that he got a package via priority mail from the address in Wyoming. Now as I said, I haven't received mine yet, so I'm not entirely sure what is coming, but here's how I determined it to be at least POSSIBLE...

Attached is a pic from a previous project of one of our puppeteers. The website is called helpmegetag5.com, and a simple visit to it will give you the gist of things... but the screen shot I am providing.... apparently they have a friend from Wyoming. With this sort of connection, it would seem possible to have someone there sending out packages to anyone that mails to them.






This will be my last post on this board at least for awhile for the following reasons.

Number one CapNSlim ... where the hell do you get off making bogus slandering claims like that? How dare you on a public forum no less make any implication that I, or anyone else is stalking these guys? That is completely absurd and highly disrespectful. But I am flattered that you are monitoring what times I login to this site.

Number two: VralllSin or whatever your Ultima Online name was that I really dont remember nor care to look it up ... I asked a simple respectful question weeks ago and you shut it down as if youre the savior of the board, complete with all your sheep bahhing their rallying cries behind you. Meanwhile homeboy CapNSlim over here takes it (as he ironically said) to "another level"...and thats okay with you? Odd that you pick your battles.

Number three: "6pm Yankee Game" ... I'll expose it; yesterday was the last game of the MLB Regular Season. When posts when up that "hunt ends at 6pm" that was because The Yankees vs BoSox started at 1pm and I wanted to watch the game. Was my last chance to heckle Jason Varitek. Had absolutely nothing to do with the contest creator's taste in baseball teams or anything of that nature. CapNSlim PM'd me several times about the "why 6pm" and I gave him the above reasoning in a response. So much for PM's being ya know "private".

To set a few things straight with the various idiocy posted in the past 24 hours:

"The Gifts" - Yes three tangible goods were received. Will I share the information as to what they were? No..and why should I when I'm being disrespected on here.

See what's ironic CapSnapIntoASlimJimLikeRandySavage is this:

We are 99.9% certain we know where this treasure is located. We went to the spot last night at 6pm as we said we would and everything lined up perfectly (complete with two suspicious looking people watching our every move while texting on their phones). I do not know if the treasure chest contains physical coins , a voucher , or as someone said on here recently "would set off a trap to alarm the puppeteers". That being said, out of respect to the hard work put into making these episodes a phone call was placed from the nearest payphone at 7:15pm. Answering machine picked up. We're not doing this for the money, its something fun to do in free time and would like to end it in a tasteful way. $10,000 split two ways is not going to make or break us, however the payoff of this contest could make or break the creators. We will return in a few days and repeat.
"Heeeey Heeeey its ****** please leave a message". And to be clear; respectfully.


Oh and Mr CapnSlim ...since you're oh so bright digging holes in public parks ... I'll shine this light on for you since others have jumped on what we knew from the begining:

In May 2008 a law was passed in NYC which banned digging in all five boroughs of NYC...ironically stemmed from people doing "treasure hunts" with metal detectors. I am however glad that I have your PM's with your IP address admitting to "digging up the park...". $115 fine by the way. Keep it classy Mr DJ.

Good luck all.



I wish anyone the best of luck if they have figured this whole thing out and are able to hunt down this treasure. Hopefully, if you do find it you will fill us in on the solving in the end. That is the part I'd like to know the most. I still do say there is no reason for anyone to leave. Just ignore the people who you feel are negative or attacking. If you feel someone has made false accusations or slandered you, state your position to the forum then ignore. I hate to see people fight and people leave. This forum is getting ugly.

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jrc
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Re: Episode 3 /4

Cap'n Slim wrote:
So... we still don't have a definite hit for the "Port of Courtland", do we?

Are we back to that? It seems to all boil down to figuring that out.

The following are possibilities

1) Columbus Circle
2) Jackson Hts / Roosevelt Ave.
3) DeKalb Ave.
4) Forest Hills/71 Ave.
5) Borough Hall

Does anyone else care to add any other stations? and why?

There is the rather remote chance that it actually is the Cortlandt Street station or the Van Cortlandt Park station. I really doubt it, but maybe.

I think it is very likely DeKalb, or as was noted a long time ago, maybe a very old station that has a platform only 4 cars long, if one exists. There were some too short to serve 6 cars, I guess, don't know about 5. Cortlandt Street was not one of these, as the original poster suggested, but the idea is a good one.

Then there is the chance that it is not a subway station at all, something like the ball courts on Portland Avenue as has been suggested, or the Court streets in "Portland" near Marine Park (yeah, I know, again). I like the idea that this is a "switching the C with the P" moment, but neither of these seems compelling. And of course, the subway nature of Episode 3 was made very clear.

Addendum: If it is DeKalb or any other station, then it does not necessarily mean that that is the stop at which to get off. It seems to me we might still be on the subway in Episode 5, and the clues could just be places we are passing.

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Cap'n Slim
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I dunno.

This whole thing has been plagued from the very beginning. Messages in bottles, fake emails, wild claims of braille in cowboy hats and constant claims of finding the treasure and all.

I can understand why the guys are mad at me for making a wild assumption, but I openly admitted it was a wild assumption the whole time. I mean... "at 6pm the gold will be found"... then the night passes and there's no gold found, and they are screaming at me for my hypothesis....

I, too, hope they find the treasure. There was really no need to get all pissed off because of what I said. Big deal! You've just found $10,000!!! Who gives a parrot's ass what I say? It wasn't an accusation! It was an educated guess on what little info I had. That's all.

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Ports

I guess money does make people a little hyped up.

This Port of Cortland thing has been driving me crazy(along with potato). This is kind of reaching, but if we look at it as Courtland then Flushing Meadows could be a candidate. They have the whole tennis complex there where the US Open is held. The port of courtland could just be the subway stop for flushing meadows.

Also, I was looking at LaGuardia, which is near flushing meadows. There are 4 public terminals. You see all 4 on the maps of the airport. Then there is a 5th marine terminal that is not seen on the airport maps. It is seen on google.

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About random digging...

Hi everyone, a question was asked about regulations concerning NYC parks when it comes to digging. I believe since the folks behind this hunt are doing it to promote themselves and their talents, things are going to be strictly legal and above board as their reputations are on the line.

If anyone goes to nycgovparks.org and checks their metal detecting page they will read this:

7. Probing or digging is strictly prohibited in the following areas: ball-fields, manicured lawns, woodlands, Native Vegetation Areas or any other area restricted by signage.

That limits alot of what can be done and is why public beaches or sandy areas can be preferred places to bury treasure. HTH

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but cap'n didn't you say last week that one of the puppeteer's sisters works or is maybe in charge of the nyc parks and recreation? you said that in chat. right?

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Re: Ports

Koolaid4 wrote:
I guess money does make people a little hyped up.

This Port of Cortland thing has been driving me crazy(along with potato). This is kind of reaching, but if we look at it as Courtland then Flushing Meadows could be a candidate. They have the whole tennis complex there where the US Open is held. The port of courtland could just be the subway stop for flushing meadows.

Also, I was looking at LaGuardia, which is near flushing meadows. There are 4 public terminals. You see all 4 on the maps of the airport. Then there is a 5th marine terminal that is not seen on the airport maps. It is seen on google.

The tennis courts are the Billie Jean King National Tennis Center. I don't know of anything that could be the "docks' here though. We don't need Kings in Queens until Episode 5. Also there is an Arthur, in Arthur Ashe Stadium, but he wasn't a Scotsman. I wonder why Louis Armstrong Stadium is called that, I don't identify him with tennis much. A nearby subway is the "Nelson", 111th Street (7 line) on Roosevelt Avenue. The LIRR goes through too. It looks like there are 6 tracks on the LIRR through Mets-Willets Point station, and you can see them all at once.

LaGuardia has 4 "terminals" including the Marine terminal, according to this:
http://www.panynj.gov/airports/lga-airport-map.html

It has sort of 7 "docks", if that is what you call the wings of the buildings that stick out that the planes crowd around. The most any terminal has is 4, which sort of fits.

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Last episode ends with all pirates buried under a construction garbage. Maybe we should look for pile of it and a chest inside?

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