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[captain12fingers]

If You Find It

[TrulyUnruly]

Re: If You Find It

[captain12fingers]

Re: If You Find It

[Almostime]

Its a treasure chest

[TrulyUnruly]

Just a reminder.

[George_Kaplan_]

well now that this is "solved" ...

where I was at was Coney Island .. thought for certain "The Crows Nest" was The Parachute Jump on the Coney Island boardwalk

had a feeling the chest was "buried" either under the boardwalk or on one of the abandoned boats in Coney Island Creek , one of the "ghost ships" ... apparently it was not.

I look forward to the explanation of the clues. I look forward to majority of us looking at the solve presented by the puppeteers and saying things to the effect of "well what about..." and "really thats it" ..and "so that homage wasnt a clue at all", "a skull & crossbones nailed to a tree? you cant be serious" ... etc.

I thought for certain there would be a final "payoff" episode (post The Seance) ... that would have aired which would show the pirates making the solve , apparently I was wrong. I would have thought THAT would have been their payoff, where we could have all had that OHHHHH moment and the entire "story" would have unfolded and come together, that's how I would have booked it at least.

The immediate question that I have is ... if this treasure was legit buried in the ground in Floyd Bennett Field as the puppeteers have stated (where they dug it up with The NY Times present) ... how would they 'know' if someone had dug it prior?

[imanygirl]

Good article

[ccl28]

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[ccl28]

I should also say this. I totally agree with all the decisions these guys made after the hurricane. However, they should have given out more clues as interest faded over a year ago. The treasure hunt was a failure, even though some good came of it.

[imanygirl]

birdie

[tesoromio2010]

Perhaps people failed to find the treasure, but this was no failure. This is an amazing ending to a very enjoyable adventure.

[ccl28]

[maskit]

Even though the treasure was found 4 miles away, I am still convinced the hunt was all about Coney Island. It's not just the many clues that led there, but I think it was the overall point to the story itself. To me, Tutty symbolized the Coney Island of the past-the good times. His red and white striped shirt (like the Astro Tower) with the word "happy" on it says it all. The Captain wanted to keep his memories safe, unchanged and locked away. Crothers represented the sad reality of the gradual destruction of CI over the years particularly due to uncaring developers (like Thor Equities) who want to tear it all down. This is why his body parts keep getting chopped off until there is hardly anything left. The burning of his hat was a symbol of the historic fires that have destroyed large parts of the amusement area, such as the huge 1911 blaze in Dreamland. Crothers/Parrot is the combination of Tutty (the past) and Crothers (the present) or the way it is now. In the end, the Captain finally accepts this combination and realizes that even though something is smaller and very much changed, it can still have an intact heart and spirit. The Captain actually mentions merchants and getting drunk in one of his final speeches about Crothers/Parrot's smallness. I think he is talking about the few remaining businesses on the Boardwalk.

I also saw the Tutty/potato clue as another confirmer for Coney Island. In Asser/Levy Park there is an historic band shell that developers want to tear down and replace with a very glitzy wavy-roofed stage. The many people who are horrified by this refer to the proposed building as the "potato chip'. Replace Tutty (the old days) with a potato.

In the beginning of the final episode the Captain says:

"I am talkin' now to the spirik world. That world filled with souls, and demons, and black-hearted oozin' buggers what make decent living-type folk puke up at the sight of yez."

I think he is referring to the Ghost Hole ride on 12th street. between the Bowery and the Boardwalk. This ride has a façade full of scary figurines and murals, plus (this is my favorite part) directly in front facing the spooky images is a rather infamous lifesize animatronic human figure in a large plexiglas box that does nothing but throw up all day long.

About a block away on 12th and Surf is a large sign for a game that is no longer there. It has ghosts on it and the words "shoot em". I think these are Mulligan's "ghosts that can't be shot".

If the Captain and Mulligan are both on 12th street in Coney Island at the beginning of the final episode, I'm not sure how they get to Floyd Bennett Field by the end of it. It is not too far away though. Of course, I realize I could completely wrong and they aren't there at all.

But seriously, the mannequin is looking at ghosts and throwing up. How could the captain be talking about any other place? I just can't let go of it, yet. Well, not until I hear the final true solution!

[Badger]

Maskit,

Wow! That was awesome!

Other than the flying birdy, I got nothing else to fit with Ep 8 at FBF, and precious little with Ep 7. So I totally understand how people made those clues fit better at other locations. (see my posts about GA Plaza).

I'm a bit fuzzy on where Mulligan and Crothers go in Episode 5, but I think that they did go to Coney Island before bouncing north again. Maybe, the Aquarium. In Ep 6, the cover of the comic book shows Mulligan holding a red and white stripe cup that looks a lot like the Astro Tower. I think that the Captain just hits the end of the B train and turns around to go back up to Neck St. Tom may be with him on the Q train.

But I'm certain that the sequence of names (Winona) that the announcers use in Ep 5 match the streets that take you from Ocean Ave to Henriksen / Flatbush Ave along Ave U. They confirm that with their sign off Leslie Sebastian Charles (Billy Ocean's birth name) and Hal Vukovich (the name of the character Lance Henriksen plays in Terminator). The comic book snake and the Capn's giant turtle are features in a playground along Ave U, and the Vitamin Shoppe (don't eat those vitamins) is a block north of Ave U. Too much stuff for it to just be coincidence.

Then Ep 4 tells you to go 3.5 miles and turn around cuz you've gone too far. Presumably that's gotta be in a straightish line, which you can only do on Flatbush Ave. "Don't eat those vitamins" may tell you to not go north in the direction of the Vitamin Shoppe. 3.5 miles south takes you past FBF and just over the Gil Hodges Bridge. So if you are on the bus, turn around and go one stop back north. That puts you at the entrance to FBF.

In Ep 4, Tom's first clue should be Clue 40. The Japanese characters say "North Section." "North Forty" actually just means North Section. If you move Tom's clue to the next Episode (Ep 7 in this case), then this puts you in the North Forty Woods of FBF in Ep 7. I didn't think to move Tom's clue and as a result I was too quick (i.e., searched only twice in 3 trips to FBF) to give up on the North Forty Woods (because the order seemed odd). I think that if I had thought of that, we would have kept searching those woods. As it was, we actually did do some digging 250 ft from the Crows Nest (Model Airplane Control Tower). But that wasn't the ship and we missed the clue about it being 250 Captains feet. I doubt that I ever would have gotten the Fir Tree = ship clue, but if we searched long enough I think we would have seen the skull and crossbones.

[ccl28]

I'm less interested in fitting certain clues to the final location. I want to know the progression from ep3 onward. Clearly, we got episodes 1&2. Ep 3 is where everyone starts to diverge. There must be 100 clues here. I want to know step-by-step how they fit together.

IMO, the Cybele clue is completely useless. There is like 3 degrees of separation to figure that one out. Almost anything works at that point. I have a feeling that if you followed the clues throughout the series, then you end up at FBF with 100% confidence. That is the way this would have been solved.