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[distilled]

Sorry Dagada, I didn't bother reading that wiki article at first because I thought it was actually about the plant again. I've taken a look now and I firmly believe that you've hit the nail on the head.



Perhaps Jayden is really really really into Spirograph as a kid?

[distilled]

I think we really need to get cracking on this game guys, winter solstice is just around the corner. Does Vlad still have control over Jayden - what do we want him to do with him?

[theclaw]

Ben is able to talk now Jayden is asleep, I wasn't even sure there was anything left. What should we do?
If we get Vlad to mind kill Jayden, then Ben can continue to exist?
If Jayden is removed, then more chaotic members of OoO may continue the cause with more destructive tendencies?

[Dagada]

Vlad has asked an interesting question. Is J still boss of OoO. Or was he ever? Who or what are we up against?

[distilled]

Lots of updates on Oeagrusson's Twitter, are you guys still playing? I'm not sure I can solve this alone!

[theclaw]

OK, so Winter Solstice, and a lunar eclipse. Nice spend on the SFX budget.
Not sure what to do:
Could do with getting Genia, Stu and Ben back.
Vlad need to be woken to do what?
No visable action on OoO board, and can't log in on Chloe's name.
I have no idea what we're supposed to be doing.

[distilled]

I really think we need to act, and soon, whatever is supposed to happen is going to happen today.

I vote that we wake Vlad, but ask he doesn't kill Jayden by delving deeper into his mind (its the white knight thing to do!). Thats my 2c guys, I'm at work and so can't get on FB.

[Dagada]

I'm not sure if we need to wake Vlad... He's still able to probe J's mind in the current state he's in, although he's stated that further probing for deeper secrets could kill J and anyone else trapped in his mind.

You can see the comments on Facebook. (the lyrics are from King's X, which I thought was nicely triple layered)

In summary, here's what we know (as I understand it)

The Flower Of Life will take fifteen days to germinate and grow.
Jayden will be using the geometric representations of the various stages (as on the flower of life wikipedia page) as a meditation focus.
The flower goes through several stages and is said to contain the key to creation and all the universe. It ends up as the Tree Of Life.
J acts in duality - creation needs destruction, etc.
Vlad hinted in a comment (now removed) that J may not be the true head of OoO!!!!
There may be others in J's mind we can communicate with other than V.

Have I missed anything? Probably...

[distilled]

thanks Dagada, I've found it difficult to keep up with info in this game this time around.

I can't help but feel there is something we need to do. Particularly as today is the focus of the entire game, I can't help but feel we need to make a choice.

[Meta]
I believe this part of the game has presented us with the choice between waking Vlad and letting Jayden/everyone else in his mind live or letting Vlad delve deeper and letting Jayden/etc die. I don't believe we have the choice to have Vlad delve a little deeper without condemning Jayden's mind and everyone in it. I

may be wrong, and misinterpreting the game. I admit I came in super-late to this game, so I've missed a lot of the preamble, but if I'm missing something entirely then let me know.

[Dagada]

There's more to it than that. The plant seems to be both physical and "supernatural". There's a link somewhere in the last few pages to details of the real plant - we maybe need to work out where it could be grown etc.

[distilled]

I see... well that gives us a direction at least. I'll look into it this afternoon, we've had so many clues there must be a location somewhere near London/Canterbury/Salisbury?

[theclaw]

Right.
O tweets:

[distilled]

I am torn, the tweets, facebook messages etc etc seem to portray a sense of urgency. But we have several things we need to sort out and I don't think we have the time or knowledge to sort them all out:

Can we evict Jayden from Ben's body?
Do we have Vlad kill Jayden?
What do we do about the plants? Where are they being grown? Whos growing them? If we kill Jayden and leave the plants, does that solve our problems? If we leave Jayden alive and find the plants, does that solve our problem?

Arrggh...

[Dagada]

As per this: http://www.academicjournals.org/AJB/PDF/pdf2010/28Jun/Xing%20et%20al.pdf

I believe the plants are being cultivated in Soochow University, China under laboratory conditions.

[theclaw]