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Tenshi Akui
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Adm_BlackCat wrote:


I think it is a pen because the frame size of Super8 film is approx. 5.8mm X 4mm. Pretty small, one would need a fine tipped pen to write legibly on it. And when projected to "full size" as seen in the image the writing would appear to be done with a flat tip pen.


I just realized where I have seen that "pen" before. It's a Slide Projector clicker. My dad had one years ago that had an identical clicker. Unfortunately I could not find any photos of it, and I think his is in storage in another state.

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 		Re: LOOOOOK!!!! oh yes oh yes oh yes!
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CONNECTION!!!



So that leads me to interstate 70 which was extended to interstate 64, these two meet at St Louis, which is the perfect location for the crash.



I live in a 'burb of STL. I drive 64 every day to work. 64 and 70 intersect in East St. Louis (and then again over the river in St. Louis). I can confirm that there are a lot of railroad tracks at the intersection in East St. Louis.

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 		Here's a list of all train accidents from 1950's to 1999 worldwide. It's easy to see why travel by train is touted as being safe, as there really aren't a whole hell of a lot of train accidents!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rail_accidents_%281950%E2%80%931999%29

There have been 3 train wrecks in Ohio in that period... 1953, 1959 and 1973.
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VanGoghX wrote:
Here's a list of all train accidents from 1950's to 1999 worldwide. It's easy to see why travel by train is touted as being safe, as there really aren't a whole hell of a lot of train accidents!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rail_accidents_%281950%E2%80%931999%29

There have been 3 train wrecks in Ohio in that period... 1953, 1959 and 1973.


There are alot of train wrecks each year(I live in a train yard so to speak) however they dont carry passengers and didn't cause great damage so they don't make it past the local news.

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 		As noted before, the fictional train wreck for the trailer isn't going to be in a list of real train wrecks.

If that 'pen' is supposed to be fine tip, why is it as blunt and round as a cue ball? Sorry, not at all convinced it's a pen. A remote control for a slide projector I can believe. Still puzzled as to why they edited out that bit on the side of the object on the desk.
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 		Two turntables, no microphone
Catching up and developments and thought I'd add this photo which I think locks in that the device partially seen on the lower right side of the image is a record player. See attached photo comparison:

Points 1: the cut-out notch of the plastic dust cover for lifting matches very closely to the vintage turntable I found online — and easy to assume this Crosley isn't even the exact matching model of player.

Points 2: the hinge assembly attaching the cover to the back of the player chassis is spot-on identical, even down to the placement of the screw on the top/back corner of the turntable base surface.

Points 3: the side speaker placement which appears correct given the difference in angle perspective between the two photos — even though the PMs appear to have 'erased' the speak on the player, its image remains in the glass reflection below it.

This would also account for the 'owner' stacking stuff (envelopes, papers... sleeved records?) on top of the dust cover.

I see no proof disallowing that it's a reel-to-reel tape recorder instead of a record player, but the similarities in design to the 'randomly' matching turntable find online seems to lean in that direction. And I used to have a turntable with the exact same dust cover configuration.

Anyway, added to the clue list if it helps...
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Euchre wrote:
Still puzzled as to why they edited out that bit on the side of the object on the desk.


This device is probably there for esthetical reasons. They surely knew that we were to find what kind of device (and use it as a clue) it is if the "speaker" was not erased. They just forgot to erase the "speaker" on the reflection too. This kind of mistake happen frequently when your are in your 'x'th verification of an important document. Your eyes sees it, but your brain erase it for you, because you really think it was fixed.

Or an other explanation is that this was meant as a clue that relates us to music. Maybe the expcnv sound can be modified using the different speeds of a turntable (33,45, 66). I don't have the software to do it though...

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smartmart wrote:
Euchre wrote:
Still puzzled as to why they edited out that bit on the side of the object on the desk.


This device is probably there for esthetical reasons. They surely knew that we were to find what kind of device (and use it as a clue) it is if the "speaker" was not erased. They just forgot to erase the "speaker" on the reflection too. This kind of mistake happen frequently when your are in your 'x'th verification of an important document. Your eyes sees it, but your brain erase it for you, because you really think it was fixed.

Or an other explanation is that this was meant as a clue that relates us to music. Maybe the expcnv sound can be modified using the different speeds of a turntable (33,45, 66). I don't have the software to do it though...

that's a good idea, but what kind of turntable simulaters are out there? if someone has one, it couldn't hurt to try!
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The style of the hat is from the same era as the rocket poppeteers sight. Both have a connection to the sixties and the space race.

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 		I've not heard of a 66 RPM speed on turntables, only 78 RPM (for the real old discs).

I don't know how one would simulate these speeds with a sound file though, unless one assumes that the base file is running at 33 RPM and then increase it by the correct ratios to 45 and 78.

At any rate, people have tried increasing and decreasing the rate already and it hasn't yielded any additional meaning to the sounds by this tactic alone.

But maybe we need to factor in replicating a 33 RPM effect with a nickel taped on the tone arm. Laughing

Oh, and I go along with the notion that the speaker (if that's what it is) was 'erased' from the chassis and not the reflection as a visual cue — prompting the "what's wrong with this picture?" method of getting our attention.

I still can't figure out what the phantom light reflection square is under the push pins, though. Also hints at part of the wall image above the turntable being photoshop-edited for content. Question remains: why is someone (inside the ARG universe) going to all the effort of changing these photos?

I just realize what we need to really study this image: Harrison Ford's photo-enhancing gizmo from BLADE RUNNER, which can endlessly enlarge photos, pull hidden details out of the smallest pixel areas, and apparently navigate slightly different perspective angles within a single printed photo. Smile

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 		Record player?--Tape deck?
Film Edge stated:

"the cut-out notch of the plastic dust cover for lifting"

I've owned numerous record players/turntables and if you notice on the photo of the record player that you say matches (it comes very close), the "cut-out notch of the plastic dust cover for lifting" is actually not for lifting--it's so the cover can close over the record. If it's a 12 inch record (as depicted in the photo) the cover wouldn't be able to close over the record because of the size of the cover.

This was usually the case of record players from Sears, Sound Design or Radio Shack; they weren't made for audiophiles--what type of sound can you expect from speakers that small and positioned at an angle that actually directs the music away from the listener.

And since the dust cover has openings on two sides, it's hardly useful for keeping out dust. The cover on these models were really only good for giving some protection to the vinyl while it's on the turntable, such as when my drunk Uncle Clod dropped a beer on the cover--it only bounced the plastic needle a dozen times on the record rather than smash the record into pieces.

I would tend to lean toward the object in question being a portable tape recorder of some kind, but sure, it could be a cheapo record player, I suppose, just my thoughts.

I can imagine someone wanting to have a taped recording of his thoughts, conversations, etc. considering a finding of this magnitude.

But then again, maybe the item is something destined to be sold, as is the pill box hat?

I agree, and mentioned it in a prior posting, that the white-colored image in the table (I have my doubts as to whether the table is a glass surface or a highly-reflective surface of some other kind) doesn't seem to be in the correct place, if it is reflecting the object(s) piled on the record player/recorder/who knows what.

As far as using something from the movies to interpret the image, I can think of no better than Tom Cruise's image manipulator in Spielberg's "Minority Report."

I'll close by saying that the size of the push pins seem either very big, or they indicate that the items around the table are much smaller than they initially seemed to me.

Oh well, keep up the great work, everyone!

P.S. If you're going to consider workin the record player angle as far as the Braegan audio file goes, some of the early record players (I used to won a couple) had a 16 r.p.m. speed, in addition to the 33 1/3, 45, and 78.

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Euchre wrote:
As noted before, the fictional train wreck for the trailer isn't going to be in a list of real train wrecks.

If that 'pen' is supposed to be fine tip, why is it as blunt and round as a cue ball? Sorry, not at all convinced it's a pen. A remote control for a slide projector I can believe. Still puzzled as to why they edited out that bit on the side of the object on the desk.


Just throwing it out there my friend, most markers and pens have caps to cover the tip so it doesn't dry out. Wink

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 		record player looks like a spot on match to me

projector clicker seems like most plausible

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