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[SPEC] What I Think Is Happening In The Game
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Player Joe
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 		[SPEC] What I Think Is Happening In The Game
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Hello unifiction, this is my first time playing/hearing of ARGs and I am quite enjoying it. My summarized theory of what is happening based on all that has happened so far is this:

A train left Area 51, headed for Ohio (destination not disclosed).

The Air Force Symbol on the train indicates that it's owned/operated by the USAF.

Since it was leaving Area 51, we have to figure that the train first came from an USAF base or is heading to one after leaving Area 51 with the cargo.

I will accept the idea that kids(most likely teenagers or college students) have inadvertently captured footage of whatever is in the train that breaks out.

Someone from the group to witness the event, showed the footage publicly somehow.

This is what prompts the message on the PDP of stop posting publicly.

The message is from a government agent working on the coverup/retrieval of whatever was in the train.

The message tries to draw out the person using the PDP by saying that they have proof, presumably proof that would verify the kids claims that this was an alien.

Now, when the train was derailed the kids were in the forest at the time, came out saw it, recorded it.

Whatever was in the train got out, and the kids ran to safety. Maybe a cave of some sorts, to hide from the monster.

The government agents arrive to contain the situation, begin to search the area come across the kids. One of the kids is taken hostage as the agents move to take the rest of them to assure nothing gets out about the thing in the train.

The other kids however, get away and lose the agents. They go home.

The one with the footage, posts the pictures somehow. Enough to draw attention of the agents who are still looking for them. The agents track the pictures to the computer and send the message.

However, the person does not respond to the message and waits.

One person from the group investigates what happened to the one person that was captured. After a futile search, the guy sends the altered newspapers out to the members of the group, telling them that he doesn't know if the friend they lost is alive, that the gov't may be after them, and they should go underground.

The group of kids are already UFO believers and have heavily researched UFO sightings. The kid uses the picture of Gordon Cooper, who had claimed to see UFOs, as the marker to indicate where the message was hidden in the newspaper.

Now it makes sense that this happens in or around Cincinnati, OH. It fits in with the Ohio River, someone mentioned that the traffic lights mentioned in the newspaper was implemented in two cities, Cincinnati and Columbus.

Now since the train was traveling from Area 51 to Ohio, its most likely that the train went through Cincinnati as it is on the border of Ohio and is which most trains go through since its such a big city.

Now if you look at this pic: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ad/Air_Force_Facilities.jpg I'd post the pic myself, but its kinda big and I don't think people would appreciate such a huge pic in the thread.

You see that the only active USAF base(and I assume then, the most well guarded) is Wright-Patterson AFB. It is also only an hour by car according to googlemaps, which should be less by train. This ties in the to trailer as the operator say ETA on schedule. It makes sense that the operator would only call/check in if they were close to arriving, so as have the base get ready for the shipment. It wouldn't make sense to do it hours hour, or even before Cincinnati as there are two many variables to consider if your not on the last leg of your journey. You wouldn't do that if you had a major city to go through where so many things could slow you down.


And.... my mind's blank. If I can remember anything else that I came up with, I'll post it.

Let me know what you all think and hopefully this helps gain some perspective into the game's mystery.

/edit: labeled the post -ndemeter

PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 6:31 pm
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I'm On To You Abrams
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 		I think we need a weekly post of this nature. A summary is pretty much needed for those that don't want to or can't (because of time constraints), wade through the hundreds of pages and posts.

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SeekerX
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 		It would have to be very objective, though. Like only 100% granted clues should appear on that list. Nothing in the vein of "I could accept that...".

PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 6:42 pm
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Player Joe
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 		This is all objective though. It's all my idea on whats going on. Granted the title is a tad misleading, I meant it for my ideas to be based off everything we know. If you want a summary of all the facts go the http://super8.wikibruce.com/Home

That place has all the info.

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SeekerX
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 		Well, I don't mean to offend you but as you said yourself, this is your idea on what is going on. So it is not objective but subjective. It's not a neutral list that new players should build their opinions on.
And, right, thebruces wiki is already there.

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AmblinAlong
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 		I believe you had a great idea going here, however please edit your first post of only FACTs/ or highly educated guesses that most of us agree with.

Your theories are all sound however except for one...can a Super8 camera work in the darkness? Why would kids be in the dark with a camera of that nature if it doesn't capture good in dark? Also there is no way that authorities wont be there within minutes considering the radio communication and another vehicle witnessing the accident as it occured.

good work though. lets keep it up

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Player Joe wrote:
This is all objective though. It's all my idea on whats going on. Granted the title is a tad misleading, I meant it for my ideas to be based off everything we know. If you want a summary of all the facts go the http://super8.wikibruce.com/Home

That place has all the info.

I'll second that, at least as far as the front/Home page is concerned - the nutshell overview on the right is as brief a complete overview as really can be made, linking further to detailed pages.
But, as usual, there are many resources to bookmark and frequent, each with varying degrees of 'fact' and 'theory'. I think our hope for UF is to compile all that knowledge and (attempt to) decide here what is fact and theory Smile
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SeekerX
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 		The sole problem being that each individual differs on what he or she accepts as "fact" Smile. But that's just the fun of this game isn't it?

PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 7:23 pm
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Melodyman
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 		Re: Everything We Know So Far
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Player Joe wrote:
Hello unifiction, this is my first time playing/hearing of ARGs and I am quite enjoying it. My summarized theory of all that has happened so far is this:

A train left Area 51, headed for Ohio (destination not disclosed).

The Air Force Symbol on the train indicates that it's owned/operated by the USAF.

Since it was leaving Area 51, we have to figure that the train first came from an USAF base or is heading to one after leaving Area 51 with the cargo.


Everything you posted in the middle here doesnt belong in this story.. Its a nice story, but it has no basis in fact..



Now it makes sense that this happens in or around Cincinnati, OH. It fits in with the Ohio River, someone mentioned that the traffic lights mentioned in the newspaper was implemented in two cities, Cincinnati and Columbus.

Now since the train was traveling from Area 51 to Ohio, its most likely that the train went through Cincinnati as it is on the border of Ohio and is which most trains go through since its such a big city.

Now if you look at this pic: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ad/Air_Force_Facilities.jpg I'd post the pic myself, but its kinda big and I don't think people would appreciate such a huge pic in the thread.

You see that the only active USAF base(and I assume then, the most well guarded) is Wright-Patterson AFB. It is also only an hour by car according to googlemaps, which should be less by train. This ties in the to trailer as the operator say ETA on schedule. It makes sense that the operator would only call/check in if they were close to arriving, so as have the base get ready for the shipment. It wouldn't make sense to do it hours hour, or even before Cincinnati as there are two many variables to consider if your not on the last leg of your journey. You wouldn't do that if you had a major city to go through where so many things could slow you down.


And.... my mind's blank. If I can remember anything else that I came up with, I'll post it.

Let me know what you all think and hopefully this helps gain some perspective into the game's mystery.


How about this..

http://super8.wikibruce.com/Scariestthingieversaw.com

PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 7:25 pm
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Player Joe
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 		I'm sure the camera works in the dark, just not well. But remember, the train caught on fire and there was alot of the train still on fire when the thing got out. Its possible that they were able to capture images using that light. They wouldn't be great pics, but enough to show other people.

And I wasn't saying that the authorities would be right there. Assuming I'm right about the USAF base, it would take them little under an hour to get there. In that time though, the kids have hidden because of the alien. They finally decide its safe when the govt agents show up.

And to amend my theory, the creature takes one kid(which later is the one mentioned when its said 'uncertain if a live'). The rest flee. Later after hiding they leave, once they think its safe. One kid goes back the next day to look for his friend. Finds government swarming the site cleaning up the wreck and won't him near. He freaks out, asking about his friend that was out in the woods. They won't confirm anything and tell him to leave. Later that guy reports it to a superior. The agents put it together and go looking around the town for the kid. End up finding his house, knocking on the door as they go door to door looking for him. The kid doesn't answer because he is afraid and warns his friends via the newspaper that the gov't is looking for people who witnessed it. Maybe they all left stuff in the forest that can be traced back to them. The kid is afraid to leave his house and warn friends face-to-face in case agents are walking around. And his friend that posted the pics had already told him about the message on the computer before he left to look for the friend. So he knew to send it coded so that the agents wouldn't find it.

Or maybe, the message is sent because the kids are accusing the govt of a coverup and won't say what happened to the friend, whom the govt has taken captive to learn about what he saw. The gov't tries to lure them out with the promise of proof of the friends whereabouts. Afraid that the govt has found where they are, someone sends out the newspaper warning everyone to go into hiding to evade capture.

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SeekerX wrote:
The sole problem being that each individual differs on what he or she accepts as "fact" Smile. But that's just the fun of this game isn't it?

By "fact", I'm referring to "this happened", "this happened", "this was found", "this person did this here", "quote", "quote", "quote"... you get the picture. That is the most basic fact there is, and that's what the wiki should be documenting and archiving first and foremost. Anything else should either be categorized in discussion or labeled as theory, speculation, or opinion. Smile
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Player Joe
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 		Okay I went back and changed the title to more accurately describe what I'm talking about. This is just my speculation as to what is happening in the story in order to maybe gain perspective which might be able to help interpret the clues.

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SeekerX
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 		Bruce, no offense meant there. I really dig your Wiki for it certainly is pretty neutral. Just wanted to have that sentence out in this thread Smile.
Good way, Player Joe. Now it all makes sense.

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 		Thank You.. Very Happy

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cearanissa
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 		Dates
Does sound pretty good, my only issues are with the dates. As the film is 1979, but we've had earlier dates on the newspaper etc. I'm very confused by the actual timeline.

Sad

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