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[TRAILHEAD] The Attic Tapes
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misskaitidid
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The problem with time travel is that it's way too sloppy/seemingly unrelated to so many other puzzles and background stories that are involved in this ARG. There was simply way too many loose threads leading off in opposite directions for us to decipher/conclude anything. In short, I am a very impatient and slightly aggravated kaitidid lol.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 9:31 pm
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nils
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Well, we can pretty much discount one theory; that is the theory that Matt is just crazy. After all, the camera did record this dude.

Matt posted again stating that he doesn't know for sure who that was, but it was his sweater. Is it the same he wore in this vid? I am too colorblind to make out what color that thing is.

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Tenshi Akui
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I'm pretty positive it is the same sweater he wore up there. The color looks right.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 9:33 am
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nils
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Video #3 can't be video #1 from a different POV because there was no "Hello?", and the matt in the corner doesn't seem to have a camera (even if it's possible). Of course, this could be the Lost Tape from a different POV, but so far, it's STILL not good evidence of time travel. Razz I'm with the squatter theory til we know better. Besides, this may be the best way to encourage matt to go back.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 1:45 pm
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Reiveth
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misskaitidid wrote:
The problem with time travel is that it's way too sloppy/seemingly unrelated to so many other puzzles and background stories that are involved in this ARG. There was simply way too many loose threads leading off in opposite directions for us to decipher/conclude anything. In short, I am a very impatient and slightly aggravated kaitidid lol.

Exactly why I think it is time travel!
Being an avid time travel fanatic the themes are there:
First a possible time travel scenario, a type that needs explaining to make sense (says 'hello?' during the day, goes in attic, hears a distorted 'hello?', leaves attic, it's now night.)

Second, themes that don't (yet) seem to tie in (switches, stickman-thing)

And now Third, seeing himself.

This is were it should begin to start unraveling.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 5:04 pm
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Bananatank
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If it is time travel then did Matt steal the last tape and why was it stolen? Also could it have been Matt driving the car from the blog post or does the time travel only apply within the house? It would also be more like overlapping timelines.

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nils
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For this to be time travel, since OOG you can't actually do it, we'd need to show that something in the past of the game predicts future events or conditions accurately. So far, I don't see anything definitive - the shoes in found tape#1 are probably the strongest case, and that's too easily explained as an OOG thing. The missing time is again too easily explained as one of many things other than time travel; besides if it's TT then it's only to the future, which makes for very very boring time travel stories.

And the PM did have some good opportunities to "prove" time travel:

- Matt could have been filmed as doing the Guy grafitti - or filmed the wall on his visit without the grafitti
- Get a dog
- Make Matt's visits to the attic sync up
- Take a watch to the attic, then compare times - Matt said he doesn't carry any watch (and presumably not his mobile to the attic either).
- Make the guy in filmed tape #3 more distinctively Matt

On the other hand, we have the whole psychosurgery angle which doesn't really mesh in any meaningful way with time travel and which we have not really explored yet.

I am not saying we should discount time travel - we don't have any proof to the contrary after all - but we shouldn't focus on it too much, since it probably would lead us the wrong way.

So, that said, does anybody have any smart ideas how we could pick up from where we are? I sent him an email, but that's just fishing in the dark, so to speak; mainly I wonder if he has had any past connections to the area.

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Hey Matt,

Just wanted to check with ya. How are you holding up? Did you go to the police about that squatter yet? Yeah I still think this is a squatter, or a junkie, or something; I mean, I saw that some people think that was you, but you were clearly filming, so that's a silly notion!

Still, I wonder. Is the squatter really connected to the strange events? I mean, it's unlikely he puts slashes and commas into your mails, right?

Is there a town hall or Library where you could look up information? Maybe even find out the names of previous owners of the house?

I was wondering: Where did you live before you moved to the Belchertown area, and where were you born? Why did you move to that particular town anyway?


Best wishes
Niles


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Nils - Your email had the same ideas mine did. Maybe if more people push him to actually research his house...I forgot to post my email when I sent it.

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Matt,

I thought of a few things. Housing sales are public record and can usually be pretty easily accessed. I would suggest you go and take a look at property sales for your house, maybe try and get in contact with previous owners/tenants to see if they'll discuss the reasons with you as to their abrupt departures. Hell, even see if you can talk to some of those ghost story telling kids, get them to tell you the stories of your house. In every myth, there's a grain of truth.

You may also want to see about finding out who the mysterious 'first' owner of your house was. See if you can find any information on his medical work/practices, and maybe even, what became of him.

Research the history of the land in your area. Any kinds of weird whatsits laying about. A hidden graveyard somewhere from a hundred years ago? A bloody battle? You never know.

Another thought, and this is a shot in the dark, is to take a look at your property lines. See exactly where they are, and then get out a metal detector with some friends and do some sleuthing in the yard.

If it's a haunting, it doesn't necessarily have to be because of the room in question. Sometimes ghosts just like a particular room. Or if you're feeling really brave, lots of friends and see about moving all that insulation. Maybe something (the third tape maybe) is hiding in those fluffy pink clouds.

All else fails, get a priest.

Best of luck. I hope your searches turn out something fruitful.

~Scarlytte


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Scarlytte,

Thanks for the ideas. At the moment I'm planning on what to do next. I will take these options into consideration.

Matt


Now, about the recent video. That strange 'music' is back. The same stuff I mentioned hearing the first time he went up there. Maybe the 'music' is a kind of catalyst for the weirdness? Who knows, I do know it doesn't actually start (or I don't start hearing it), until he's been in the attic for a bit.

I do think that the guy in the purple sweatshirt is Matt, but I have another question. Who or what the hell is this?! I jumped when it popped up at 2:11.



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nils
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Didn't get a reply to my email.

No idea what your pic shows - a smudge?

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Didz
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Looks like someone walking past. Is that an arm swinging?

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nils
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Re-checked that part of the tape and he's pretty much only shining his lamp at the wall there I think. Sure it's 2:11? I really can't see anything special there. (Damn why did Matt not hear of HD videos!)

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Didz
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Just checked the vid myself. It's as he pans back towards the attic opening. It looks like a mannequin wedged between the roof and one of the support beams OR someone peering around them.

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mumif
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Yes, I too can hear some music. Plus, the fact is there was a person there, and Matt ran away. It really doesn't matter if it's Matt or not, what would you do if you found somebody in your attic?
Also, is there a possibility that
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that psychodoctor guy maybe messed with that person in the attic? And thanks to that "time twist", he ended up there?


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mumif wrote:
Yes, I too can hear some music. Plus, the fact is there was a person there, and Matt ran away. It really doesn't matter if it's Matt or not, what would you do if you found somebody in your attic?


DEFINITELY call the cops...

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Didz
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I think I'd freak out and dive out the attic too in all fairness. Then I'd get out the house and call the police.

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