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[SOLVED] Next Puzzle: Flynn Lives Postcards
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IF it's 15 6x6 letters, then it's 90 columns plus a pixel between each, which makes 104 columns. If it has a one pixel padding, then the UV region is 8 rows by 106 columns.
Running out of ideas... imo, it's either wait, or watch for a tip Razz maybe a FL discussion board update will be due soon.
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Broklynite
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Waterborn2o2p wrote:
Another silly question (I reviewed the thread and could not find any reference to this) has anyone tried orienting the bands vertically and the playing with them in that orientation? All the prints on the front are aligned in this manner. Thought it was curious that not one had a horizontal picture.


I did a little bit but didn't see anything.

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Broklynite
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thebruce wrote:
IF it's 15 6x6 letters, then it's 90 columns plus a pixel between each, which makes 104 columns. If it has a one pixel padding, then the UV region is 8 rows by 106 columns.
Running out of ideas... imo, it's either wait, or watch for a tip Razz maybe a FL discussion board update will be due soon.


Considering that I was sitting there counting them, it's certainly possible I miscounted. Thanks a bunch!

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WolfinPDX
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Imagine this scenario
Cryptographic methods

So let's say I'm the owner of a business that restores vintage arcade games. I have a mailing list, I own or I have access to a quality high speed color printer, and I have postcards.

Now let's say I'm in opposition of a certain international company. I've drawn attention to myself, and I've pulled down some heat. I decide to go underground. I want things to cool off before I make my next move.

A few months pass.

Now I want to get a message out. I can't use my usual online discussion board. I also need to encrypt the message. I need to do it without a computer, just in case it's been compromised.

I know some things about cryptography (hell, I've cracked this certain international company's intranet, right?).

So what do I do? I go analog. I go old school.
--------------------------------------------------------

I'm Googling different ways to encrypt a message using grids, dots, squares, pixels, whatever. Here's what I've got so far, and I'll edit this message as I find more possibilities.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polybius_square

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knock_code

http://www.answers.com/topic/adfgvx-cipher

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grille_%28cryptography%29

http://teach.fcps.net/trt3/Act2_NowYouSeeIt_InPlainSight_final.pdf

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MrSinistar wrote:
I took pictures of all of the recognizable signs in Flynn's Arcade from 1982 ("Tron").

Astro Gunner, Digitizer, Vice Squad, Code Wars, Intruder and Matrix Blaster all must be from 1982 or earlier, so it makes since that Kraz-Bot would be 1983...thus making Arc Wars '83 or later as well.


Not that it will pay off for the ARG or in postcards, but the left unknown game sign appears to read BERZERK in the DVD... the Z being larger than the other letters and splitting the name in half (kind of how the Zs do it in the ZZ Top logo). Can't read the right unknown name (until we get the Blu-ray), but it appears to read *something like STROBE ZONE. Hard to tell since the last word is behind a lamp for the entire shot.

Neither name matches any game titles currently listed on the ENCOM website catalog page, but there are at least a couple other neon signs in the film arcade not in their catalog either.

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krakmunky69
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Re: Dont try this at home...

Distraction wrote:
just thought i would throw this out there..just incase the water stains on the front of the postcards give anyone any ideas...

due to an infortuante incident with my soda bottle( dont ask) i discovered the black strip...dissolves....whats left looks remarkably like Tags...i tried my tag reader again...and no luck..


any chance at pics? i have tried holding a lighter to mine for a possible heat reactive ink, no dice, i am looking into a few other things that haven't been approached but and resistant to destroying this for nothing

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Berzerk - Stern Electronics - 1980

MrSinistar wrote:
Not that it will pay off for the ARG or in postcards, but the left unknown game sign appears to read BERZERK in the DVD...


Berzerk is a classic arcade game made by Stern Electronics, released in 1980. It was the first video game using synthesized voice. The neon sign in Tron is a representation of the logo for the game.

You would think that since your name is Mr. Sinistar, named after a classic Williams video game, you would have caught that. Wink

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minterbartolo
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Re: Imagine this scenario
Cryptographic methods

WolfinPDX wrote:
So let's say I'm the owner of a business that restores vintage arcade games. I have a mailing list, I own or I have access to a quality high speed color printer, and I have postcards.

Now let's say I'm in opposition of a certain international company. I've drawn attention to myself, and I've pulled down some heat. I decide to go underground. I want things to cool off before I make my next move.

A few months pass.

Now I want to get a message out. I can't use my usual online discussion board. I also need to encrypt the message. I need to do it without a computer, just in case it's been compromised.

I know some things about cryptography (hell, I've cracked this certain international company's intranet, right?).

So what do I do? I go analog. I go old school.
--------------------------------------------------------

I'm Googling different ways to encrypt a message using grids, dots, squares, pixels, whatever. Here's what I've got so far, and I'll edit this message as I find more possibilities.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polybius_square

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knock_code

http://www.answers.com/topic/adfgvx-cipher

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grille_%28cryptography%29

http://teach.fcps.net/trt3/Act2_NowYouSeeIt_InPlainSight_final.pdf


okay going on this data I would suggest each postcard is a piece of the code (or we can try the full combined matrix)

so using a ADFGVX Cipher: (6x6 grid locations of the bits)

A D F G V X
A 8 P 3 D 1 N
D L T 4 O A H
F 7 K B C 5 Z
G J U 6 W G M
V X S V I R 2
X 9 E Y 0 F Q

we can find the encoded text and then run it through this decode with I would suggest ENCOM as the key.

http://www.cryptool-online.org/index.php/en/ciphers/adfgvx/adfgvx-test

I have to make dinner for the kids or I would try it myself, but let me know what you find.

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sihnstarr
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The Playfair Cipher

Here is the grid for The Playfair Cipher using "now playing at your local arcade" as the key:

N O W P L
A Y I G T
U R C D E
B F H K M
Q S V X Z

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sihnstarr
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The Playfair Cipher

Here is The Playfair Cipher using "now playing at your local arcade":

N O W P L
A Y I G T
U R C D E
B F H K M
Q S V X Z

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Distraction
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polybius?

since #s were thrown out earlier ( 32 31 21 19 )...the Polybius cypher could also come into play..ive tried the above #s...and ive tried the #s when you multiply them timex 6 ( as someone suggested earlier..when it was thought to be a web address)..i may have the wrong combinations...but i got nada...

i also have a kid ready to eat...so ill be back as soon as i feed the monster...

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WolfinPDX
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Why four postcards?
Something else I've been wondering about

Why not just one postcard? Why not more than 4?

Can anyone think of other reasons why, aside from a message in four parts or a single message to be put together from overlaying the 4 stripes with their different square patterns, or IP addresses?

// I have laundry to do, so I'm going to be away from keyboard for awhile.

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Broklynite
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Re: Imagine this scenario
Cryptographic methods

minterbartolo wrote:
WolfinPDX wrote:
So let's say I'm the owner of a business that restores vintage arcade games. I have a mailing list, I own or I have access to a quality high speed color printer, and I have postcards.

Now let's say I'm in opposition of a certain international company. I've drawn attention to myself, and I've pulled down some heat. I decide to go underground. I want things to cool off before I make my next move.

A few months pass.

Now I want to get a message out. I can't use my usual online discussion board. I also need to encrypt the message. I need to do it without a computer, just in case it's been compromised.

I know some things about cryptography (hell, I've cracked this certain international company's intranet, right?).

So what do I do? I go analog. I go old school.
--------------------------------------------------------

I'm Googling different ways to encrypt a message using grids, dots, squares, pixels, whatever. Here's what I've got so far, and I'll edit this message as I find more possibilities.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polybius_square

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knock_code

http://www.answers.com/topic/adfgvx-cipher

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grille_%28cryptography%29

http://teach.fcps.net/trt3/Act2_NowYouSeeIt_InPlainSight_final.pdf


okay going on this data I would suggest each postcard is a piece of the code (or we can try the full combined matrix)

so using a ADFGVX Cipher: (6x6 grid locations of the bits)

A D F G V X
A 8 P 3 D 1 N
D L T 4 O A H
F 7 K B C 5 Z
G J U 6 W G M
V X S V I R 2
X 9 E Y 0 F Q

we can find the encoded text and then run it through this decode with I would suggest ENCOM as the key.

http://www.cryptool-online.org/index.php/en/ciphers/adfgvx/adfgvx-test

I have to make dinner for the kids or I would try it myself, but let me know what you find.


I...have no idea whatsoever how you got that grid you put together. Doesn't the cipher presuppose that you have a pre-made grid? I mean, don't you just put random numbers/letters in? If you don't have the grid, how the hell does one go about deciphering it?

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minterbartolo
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Re: Imagine this scenario
Cryptographic methods

Broklynite wrote:
minterbartolo wrote:
WolfinPDX wrote:
So let's say I'm the owner of a business that restores vintage arcade games. I have a mailing list, I own or I have access to a quality high speed color printer, and I have postcards.

Now let's say I'm in opposition of a certain international company. I've drawn attention to myself, and I've pulled down some heat. I decide to go underground. I want things to cool off before I make my next move.

A few months pass.

Now I want to get a message out. I can't use my usual online discussion board. I also need to encrypt the message. I need to do it without a computer, just in case it's been compromised.

I know some things about cryptography (hell, I've cracked this certain international company's intranet, right?).

So what do I do? I go analog. I go old school.
--------------------------------------------------------

I'm Googling different ways to encrypt a message using grids, dots, squares, pixels, whatever. Here's what I've got so far, and I'll edit this message as I find more possibilities.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polybius_square

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knock_code

http://www.answers.com/topic/adfgvx-cipher

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grille_%28cryptography%29

http://teach.fcps.net/trt3/Act2_NowYouSeeIt_InPlainSight_final.pdf


okay going on this data I would suggest each postcard is a piece of the code (or we can try the full combined matrix)

so using a ADFGVX Cipher: (6x6 grid locations of the bits)

A D F G V X
A 8 P 3 D 1 N
D L T 4 O A H
F 7 K B C 5 Z
G J U 6 W G M
V X S V I R 2
X 9 E Y 0 F Q

we can find the encoded text and then run it through this decode with I would suggest ENCOM as the key.

http://www.cryptool-online.org/index.php/en/ciphers/adfgvx/adfgvx-test

I have to make dinner for the kids or I would try it myself, but let me know what you find.


I...have no idea whatsoever how you got that grid you put together. Doesn't the cipher presuppose that you have a pre-made grid? I mean, don't you just put random numbers/letters in? If you don't have the grid, how the hell does one go about deciphering it?


the grid is a standard ADFGVX that I found on the web. you need to shift the top row over a space for some reason the leading spaces got deleted.

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FlyingFrog wrote:
Got Kraz-Bot card today. Dated june 29. I'm in Harrisburg pa. Just thought I would share.


Glad to see fellow Pennsylvanian on here! It's also good to know that we've both gotten postcards recently.

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