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[SOLVED] Next Puzzle: Flynn Lives Postcards
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BitGamer
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David--

While I appreciate the effort you have put into your research, it seems simply infeasible that the answers we seek to this puzzle in IEEE Transactions, or any highly-advanced computer programming system or hyper-mathematical code. In the end, this is an advertising campaign, and as such, it must remain accessible to the public-at-large; not everyone need participate, but everyone interested must be able to participate. Complex algorithms and programming caters to a seletct few. It would be like putting the Dos Equis commercials in Latin, where anyone could watch it, but only a select few could enjoy.

There are three possible paths to this puzzle. The first is that we have not received all the clues yet to a fifteen-letter phrase that probably starts with "ENCOM," as I mentioned before. The second is that the method has little to do with letters, but still uses some method of combination, "connect-the-dots," or image that we have yet to figure out. The third path is that we have all the clues we are going to get.

Here's something I was looking at recently. Have you tried to divide the combined series in half (7.5 on one, and then the other) and then mirroring the images? It looks suspiciously like numbers to me.

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BitGamer wrote:
David--

While I appreciate the effort you have put into your research, it seems simply infeasible that the answers we seek to this puzzle in IEEE Transactions, or any highly-advanced computer programming system or hyper-mathematical code. In the end, this is an advertising campaign, and as such, it must remain accessible to the public-at-large; not everyone need participate, but everyone interested must be able to participate. Complex algorithms and programming caters to a seletct few. It would be like putting the Dos Equis commercials in Latin, where anyone could watch it, but only a select few could enjoy.

There are three possible paths to this puzzle. The first is that we have not received all the clues yet to a fifteen-letter phrase that probably starts with "ENCOM," as I mentioned before. The second is that the method has little to do with letters, but still uses some method of combination, "connect-the-dots," or image that we have yet to figure out. The third path is that we have all the clues we are going to get.

Here's something I was looking at recently. Have you tried to divide the combined series in half (7.5 on one, and then the other) and then mirroring the images? It looks suspiciously like numbers to me.



Sorry about that. I just input some of the data that comes out of the Think Tank here. When something makes sense to me, i place it in search and see what comes up that may be a possible help.

I was hoping someone would figure i was trying to say that. Since i have a problem to print out the results that have occurred its difficult for me to do that myself. But it is one of the ways i was looking into manipulating the information.

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ADarkly
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Clues to convention center layout theory: good thought, but it's not wide enough to the length to represent the booth layout.

Person who asked about whether card codes are similar: my ArcWars code is identical to the one here. So it's much more likely a puzzle piece than an entry code, imo.

This dawned on me yesterday, but I didn't get a chance to post; the dots really remind me of how numbers work on a digital clock. I really think that if we get a correct overlay (and we may still be missing postcards, there may be a 2nd wave), it will spell something for us. It's simple but not immediately apparent, and requires co-operation; seems like an ARG puzzle solution to me. I think a lot of times ARG players are smarter than the designers, and think up all kinds of cool stuff they never would have Wink

To make it easier, could we use graph paper (for those who don't have Excel)? It's difficult to capture the code WHILE shining a blacklight on it.

That's my current idea, anyhow. I love the Space Invaders someone found in the white space too XD

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ADarkly wrote:
This dawned on me yesterday, but I didn't get a chance to post; the dots really remind me of how numbers work on a digital clock. I really think that if we get a correct overlay (and we may still be missing postcards, there may be a 2nd wave), it will spell something for us. It's simple but not immediately apparent, and requires co-operation; seems like an ARG puzzle solution to me.
Considering there's 47 pages of material here, you can imagine that you're not the first to come up with this idea.
But you can certainly help out!

Here's one example of what's been done (courtesy of MrSinistar):



And here's the page it's from.

Here's a second attempt at doing what you're thinking, posted by KWD1968 at this page.

Look these over and try a little 'plug n play' with the letters. See what you come up with.
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I still like ENCOMGAMESECTOR1... yes I put a '1' at then end mostly because there's a large enough empty area at the end on all the scans to easily fit it in while leaving the margin intact.

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@VanGoghX

I didn't make that image. jasongreeno did. But thanks for crediting me anyway LOLOL

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Panthro13
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koopatroopa_1977 wrote:
Has anyone come across this before?

http://www.coinopspace.com/profiles/blogs/a-rare-encom-interview-wtog

I've tried to use the id to get into the employee intranet but haven't got anywhere with the password. I've been using variations of ENCOMSGREED1979 as that's the year that's mentioned in the post for when Atari was hacked and ENCOMSGREED seems to be what a few people think is encoded on the back of the postcards.


I keep coming back to this link for some reason. Has anyone debunked this blog as bogus. There are a number of typos and grammatical errors in it but can never be too sure. Plus, that circuit diagram could be a part of it considering how close to now the event mentioned in the article is.

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Panthro13 wrote:
koopatroopa_1977 wrote:
Has anyone come across this before?

http://www.coinopspace.com/profiles/blogs/a-rare-encom-interview-wtog

I've tried to use the id to get into the employee intranet but haven't got anywhere with the password. I've been using variations of ENCOMSGREED1979 as that's the year that's mentioned in the post for when Atari was hacked and ENCOMSGREED seems to be what a few people think is encoded on the back of the postcards.


I keep coming back to this link for some reason. Has anyone debunked this blog as bogus. There are a number of typos and grammatical errors in it but can never be too sure. Plus, that circuit diagram could be a part of it considering how close to now the event mentioned in the article is.





I had an idea. If the employee intranet is closed to us, perhaps it's not closed to this guy? I've been trying his employee number along with ENCOMSGREED and all the other suggestions for what is on the postcard. I'm imagining that it's a password to something...

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Distraction
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my guess is that that site is OOG...if you look at his other blog posts, you see one talking about the movie...and i thought that didnt happen in an ingame site..

but then again..im still an ARG newbie..so i could be wrong..

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and within probably the first 10 or so pages of this topic i observed that not only are many of his posts from a TRON fan's POV, but also, the video game programmer's name is the same as a member of Journey...a reference they wouldn't have made so obvious.

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Clu Program
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Suggestion:

    if we didn't ever seen.

    add the squares of a card to another would it have been possible?
    -I don't think so.


-I think every card can decrypt alone.

    Now the questions are :

  • Why the code is not the same on all cards?
    and
  • How decrypt the cards ?

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WolfinPDX
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Clu Program wrote:
I think every card can decrypt alone.

I agree, but I think we're missing at least one thing that allows us to do that.
Clue Program wrote:

    Now the questions are :
  • Why the code is not the same on all cards?
    and
  • How decrypt the cards ?


Both good questions.

My latest idea: I've tried rotating the cards 90 degrees so the artwork is oriented properly, which gives us a stripe which is 8 squares wide.

I tried binary; that is if there was a square you can see under blacklight, it's a 1 and if not, it's a 0. I've also tried the inverse of this.

I've tried binary to text, binary to decimal, and I don't get anything that makes any sense.

When one does analysis, one looks for patterns. So far, I'm not seeing one with these stripes. I'm starting to think maybe they are a red herring.

Bottom line: I'm out of ideas. I'm waiting for the next part of the puzzle. I'm certain there is more to it now.

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WolfinPDX wrote:
[...]

My latest idea: I've tried rotating the cards 90 degrees so the artwork is oriented properly, which gives us a stripe which is 8 squares wide.

I tried binary; that is if there was a square you can see under blacklight, it's a 1 and if not, it's a 0. I've also tried the inverse of this.

I've tried binary to text, binary to decimal, and I don't get anything that makes any sense.

When one does analysis, one looks for patterns. So far, I'm not seeing one with these stripes. I'm starting to think maybe they are a red herring.

Bottom line: I'm out of ideas. I'm waiting for the next part of the puzzle. I'm certain there is more to it now.


I exactly make the same things...

[Bottom line: I'm out of ideas. I'm waiting for the next part of the puzzle. I'm certain there is more to it now.]
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Broklynite wrote:
Distraction wrote:
ok...anyone care to test the theory? using the descriptions on the back of the card?
the only way this could work...is to put the descriptions side by said...any extra spaces could throw it off..

Astro Gunner says

Rocket your way through a deadly meteor shower
with agility, speed and the mightiest firepower in the
galaxy - Astro Gunner is out of this world!

can any one else post the other card descriptions? make sure you put it down exactly how it is on the card..


ARCWARS
Explosions abound in the breakneck space
chase! Dodge the enemy, explore new realms
and maneuver one behemoth vessel to the
outer reaches of your imagination, courtesy
of Encom.

Problem is that mine is fully justified. And if you don't have the same font, let alone justification, etc. then we may have some issues. Besides, mine is only 5 lines think (unless we could ARCWARS). Could be tricky.



Sorry guys I was quite sleep deprived when I posted that. I was not referring to the text on the card but perhaps something else past or present or future. I have been searching for a media. The saved website images in the fake forum is one of the ideas. I have yet to find any more fake sites. Some one previously mentioned there card being postmarked on the 29th mine which is identical is postmarked on the 30th.

Because of the differing post dates I assuming the post office wasn't slow at getting them out they are mailing them in groups as they are completed meaning they were not necessarily extremely time sensitive. This could mean that the puzzle is not complete yet. If the answer is currently solvable then there is a good chance it is for a event that is not extremely time sensitive.

Random thoughts

I say lay them together and connect the dots if I had the printed images I would. I have seen dumber puzzles.

What if they lay side by side instead of end to end.

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BigC
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Is this any use?
Got my postcard and an idea

Hi,
In the UK and just got my postcard today - did a search and decided to join in with you guys if that's ok?

(I got an Astro Gunner card!)

Has anyone read the forum on the Flynn Lives site? Particularly this post:
http://www.flynnlives.com/discussionforums/post.aspx?id=10

The image that is linked to in the post is coded in a similiar way to the postcard:
http://qm6k3pshu8rr302kv6xej8p72s.net/qm6k3pshu8rr302kv6xej8p72s.png


Think it might be of any help?

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