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[SOLVED] Next Puzzle: Flynn Lives Postcards
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degravedi
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degravedi wrote:
thebruce wrote:
Still can't figure out even the dimensions of the grid... trying something else.
I know I'm tardy to the party here, so sorry if this has been mentioned before. From what I can see (I don't have a blacklight so I have to work with what I can see from the light reflection), the black grid is exactly 1 x 14 cm, and each of the dots seems to be 1mm square. So possibly a grid of 10 x 140?

So I worked on this further and after three do-overs (first I was trying to eyeball which 1mm space each dot belonged to without a second ruler; then I flubbed up measuring, putting some dots before or after their proper space Bang Head) each does in fact work out to a precise spot on this sized grid.

The column-row grid I got:
Code:
3-6  4-2  4-9  8-9  9-9  12-4  18-4  24-9  25-9  30-6  36-8  39-4  45-5  47-7  50-8  52-8  56-4  61-6  65-5  65-7  80-5  95-9  96-9  106-9  116-(4-9)  126-4  134-6  136-4

I don't know if the different proportions will help get a clearer picture though. Dunno Anyone else have two mm rulers and want to try this with the three other cards?

The Arc Wars grid below.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 9:05 pm
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ReRez
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Re: something found on the front

A mod should post the solved code on the first page then. To avoid people like myself messing up. I got somewhere in this thread many pages deep and one person listed 3 names after a picture with possible Letters.

The guy after him suggested adding a 1 to the end of the code

Encoms Game Sector
Encoms Play Sector
I Forgot the 3rd one.

After reading that. I didn't see an S after the "encom" or the place for a 1. So I tried my hands at something someone else posted, unaware that someone had the solve and proof to back up the claim of what the code actually spelt.

My bad, I got my arc wars card today and ran here. Just trying to help. I guess i should have skimmed all 50 some odd pages. from now on why not announce a solve in "(" ")" the threads subject. So folks like me don't feel like jerks.



Broklynite wrote:
revsleestaxx wrote:
Broklynite wrote:
revsleestaxx wrote:
Broklynite wrote:
revsleestaxx wrote:
I received astro gunner on july 3rd i have been trying to get a black light to see it.

I put mine under a microscope to see if i missed anything. on the front right edge just on the edge of the image i found this.


Bang Head

They're postal marks, dude. Nice image tho- you have a digital microscope?


no the postal marks or on the other side and much shorter.


Please read the archives. If you want to argue with other people's arguments, fine. But please, please read the archive.
http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=29815&start=135 This is the first instance I can find where we started discussing this. I'm not sure how/if one can link to a particular post, but it is this page (10)


Thanks must have missed it. Yes i do have a few digital scopes and a SEM and real time x-ray. i can do FTIR on the back of the stanmp but i am sure it is water and not saliva


O.o You have an SEM in your home?

I'm sorry if I came off as rude. I'm not complaining that info is being repeated so much as I don't want people to waste time and effort. I know I would be frustrated to have a great idea, check it out, do some work- then find people already found and discussed and ultimately dismissed my idea long ago.


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Broklynite
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Re: something found on the front

ReRez wrote:
A mod should post the solved code on the first page then. To avoid people like myself messing up. I got somewhere in this thread many pages deep and one person listed 3 names after a picture with possible Letters.

The guy after him suggested adding a 1 to the end of the code

Encoms Game Sector
Encoms Play Sector
I Forgot the 3rd one.

After reading that. I didn't see an S after the "encom" or the place for a 1. So I tried my hands at something someone else posted, unaware that someone had the solve and proof to back up the claim of what the code actually spelt.

My bad, I got my arc wars card today and ran here. Just trying to help. I guess i should have skimmed all 50 some odd pages. from now on why not announce a solve in "(" ")" the threads subject. So folks like me don't feel like jerks.



Ah, it isn't solved yet. We have a new thread you may want to check out tho http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=29912

Sorry again that I came off so strong.

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Broklynite
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Hunh. Nobody's considered court stenography. I'm rather surprised.

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Re: something found on the front

ReRez wrote:
A mod should post the solved code on the first page then. To avoid people like myself messing up. I got somewhere in this thread many pages deep and one person listed 3 names after a picture with possible Letters.

The guy after him suggested adding a 1 to the end of the code

Encoms Game Sector
Encoms Play Sector
I Forgot the 3rd one.

After reading that. I didn't see an S after the "encom" or the place for a 1. So I tried my hands at something someone else posted, unaware that someone had the solve and proof to back up the claim of what the code actually spelt.


The point is not to help new forum members avoid reading what other players have written/suggested/solved. The point — and you're encouraged to do this when you JOIN the forum — is to read what others have written so you can contribute already up-to-speed.

Reading posts from prior to your arrival not only makes you a better contributor, it shows respect for veterans who have already done the work you skipped over.

Taking the time to read others' ideas and progress (or failure) may well inspire a new idea of your own which breaks the game open. But then you'll be assured it's YOUR idea this time — and you'll be showered with brownies and stroopwafel instead of trout. Very Happy

So read up and we all look forward to new contributions. The fun has barely started yet!

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Christien
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Just got mine here in Montreal. Astro-Gunner. The dots are the same as the others.
Unfortunately it sat in my mailbox all day in this heat wave we're having and now it's pretty warped. But at least I got one, I was getting worried that it might have gotten lost in the mail.

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Rogi Ocnorb
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Many of the issues we're experiencing have a simple solution that works on most any decent-sized forum...
I present:
The Search Function
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:44 pm
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Geez, we haven't figured this out yet?!? I refuse to believe it's this complicated; it would go against everything so far.
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AKComic
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I realize that several people have said that the bars on the front of the card are postal markings and should be ignored - but just to clarify, is it normal for articles mailed through the post office to have TWO sets of barcodes? Because there's two sets on these postcards - the nearly-invisible one on the front, and the obvious black-and-white one on the back, beneath the black bar with the dots.

Are those BOTH being used by the post office, or did we overlook something here?

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mach1monorail
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once again:

mach1monorail wrote:
guys, i highly doubt the code on the front is from FL, but instead is from the USPS...to support my argument, i took a picture under a blacklight of a non-FL postcard i received in 1997.


Click here for full size

im willing to bet other "regular" postcards people have gotten also have this coding on it


please use the search function...i know we have LOT of first time posters on here...but i gotta believe that most of them HAVE posted on some forum before...and know some etiquette...just search...and voila!

then you dont have to post "i dont know know if this has already been posted" at the beginning of your post. youll already know!

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AKComic
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Yes, I saw that - that isn't what I was asking. I know the nearly-invisible code on the FRONT is a postal code; my question was, is it normal for postcards to have TWO barcodes? Because there's also the regular printed code on the back - and I don't know if these are both used together, or if that's a dummy code.

That all being said... I have a completely different theory on this that just hit me - I don't have time to explore it myself, but maybe someone else can take it and run with it, as I don't believe it's been suggested yet (didn't see it in search). Somebody suggested a while back that maybe it was a map to the Exhibit Hall, rather than a code - then I noticed over at FlynnLives.com that the SQUARE dots on the black bar look suspiciously similar to the square dots on a map on the website - the one in the screenshot from Space Paranoids.

What if it IS a map - and we just had the location wrong? What if it's a map to Space Paranoids? Perhaps the dots line up somehow with the sectors in the game. More, I remember a poster stating that when you put the different postcards together, there's one dot that overlaps - what if that's the digital "X marks the spot" on our map of the game?

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AKComic wrote:
I realize that several people have said that the bars on the front of the card are postal markings and should be ignored - but just to clarify, is it normal for articles mailed through the post office to have TWO sets of barcodes? Because there's two sets on these postcards - the nearly-invisible one on the front, and the obvious black-and-white one on the back, beneath the black bar with the dots.

Are those BOTH being used by the post office, or did we overlook something here?


The front lines that are 'invisible' are not part of the postal code. I have astro Gunner and i found the same lines, but they are not part of the postal code. I hope someone can figure it out. Strangely it can be smudged.

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I'm 100% sure the black barcode is the postnet routing code for my Zip+4 delivery area. I checked it.

The fluorescent barcode is something internal to the USPS' sorting and routing functions and is very much like the Canadian Post "CPC Binary" postal code. In this case it's a binary representation of a unique sequential "control" number assigned to the document. I know this by comparing the three cards we got in my household and noting that two of them differ only in the last few bars where one has no 2s bit but does have a 1s bit and the other is the opposite. Since there isn't a lot of information about this schema available, I'd bet it's at least partially a post-911 security measure.
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Rogi Ocnorb wrote:
I'm 100% sure the black barcode is the postnet routing code for my Zip+4 delivery area. I checked it.

The fluorescent barcode is something internal to the USPS' sorting and routing functions and is very much like the Canadian Post "CPC Binary" postal code. In this case it's a binary representation of a unique sequential "control" number assigned to the document. I know this by comparing the three cards we got in my household and noting that two of them differ only in the last few bars where one has no 2s bit but does have a 1s bit and the other is the opposite. Since there isn't a lot of information about this schema available, I'd bet it's at least partially a post-911 security measure.


the BLACK barcode on the back, yes, BUT the other barcode on the front of the card is what i am talking about.

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As am I.
Only the first sentence of my last reply dealt with the black barcode.
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