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topgun
Kilroy
Joined: 03 Oct 2002 Posts: 2 Location: New York
CHESS MOVES??? Anyone figure out the chess game with the "prisoners" in the van. How is it that Jim joined right in with this mental chess game?
Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2002 1:03 am
LordKinbote
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Joined: 25 Sep 2002 Posts: 261
Honestly? I don't know whether there's anything to figure out. Jim is smart, we know that already.
A few things I do notice...the first two moves that the prisoners make are the exact same moves that Jim makes. Jim moves his bishop. The game then skips ahead (it cuts to an exterior of the truck and then cuts back to the inside, and Jim is moving his queen to a spot that one cannot move their queen to from starting position).
Jim moves his queen and the prisoner moves his queen. It is true that the prisoner is still moving the same piece, but he couldn't possibly still be making the same moves as Jim...if he were, his queen would be at F6, not C6.
So, what does that mean? Nothing, I guess. The moves don't spell out any hidden word or anything.
---Scott
Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2002 1:35 am
Diandra
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Joined: 27 Sep 2002 Posts: 390
F6 I'm confused. The last move I wrote down in my notes show the prisoner moving his Queen to F6 (after Jim moved his Queen to C4.) From your post it would seem that you have something different. One of us has bad information. Did you get yours from enochonline.org?
Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2002 2:11 pm
Chess moves
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Chess Strategy Does anyone recognize these moves aa part of a known Chess Strategy?
Perhaps the name is a clue.
Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2002 2:42 pm
Ozy_y2k
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Joined: 25 Sep 2002 Posts: 460 Location: Carmel, Indiana
Unfortunately, it would be difficult to identify an opening gambit in this case, because the camera cuts away from the game after the first three opening moves (the first two of which, e4 and e5, are among the most common opening pawn moves in ANY given game, regardless of subsequent opening strategy), and does not appear to return until one or more moves has been made in the interim. Perhaps the puzzle here is for us to figure out what the most logical moves were that would have been made while we weren't able to watch; since it appears, strategically speaking, that Jim's opponents are not interested in threatening the king (the goal of most opening attacks), any "long-term" predictions on strategy wouldn't work as far as identifying an opening pattern.
Can anyone reproduce the moves, using Algebraic notation, here, so someone with a little more knowledge than I regarding openings can comment as to the most likely "missed" moves? I didn't have my VCR set to tape last night, so I missed it.
O
Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2002 3:22 pm
luvinpush
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Joined: 30 Sep 2002 Posts: 112 Location: wild, wonderful WV
Re: F6
Diandra wrote:
I'm confused. The last move I wrote down in my notes show the prisoner moving his Queen to F6 (after Jim moved his Queen to C4.) From your post it would seem that you have something different. One of us has bad information. Did you get yours from enochonline.org?
The prisoner moved his queen to C6
Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2002 9:32 am
Diandra
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Joined: 27 Sep 2002 Posts: 390
Thanks Yes, I realized I had incorrect info. Thanks for correcting my notes. Now if I could only figure out what it means... <sigh>
Dia
Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2002 11:07 am
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The Chess game is a tie-in to "Peter Pan" and the concept of playing to a draw...or a PUSH . That would mean one would never die or get old.
Take a look at the entry in under the topic PUSH, NV-Spec, titled "Focus on Peter Pan"
Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2002 12:57 am
dj_mystique
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Joined: 28 Sep 2002 Posts: 69 Location: Texas
all the moves? could anyone post the move sequences? seems my copy is gone for good.
Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2002 8:47 pm
nevada1955
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Joined: 27 Sep 2002 Posts: 27 Location: Gardnerville, Nevada
Not sure I can read anything into the chess match other then the prisoners were setting him up so when they got back to the big house, they could "corner the white bitch" Also D'Wight Sloman used the word bitch during their confrontation.
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2002 6:53 pm
Guest
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Chess moves Check ou the MAP on enoch. IT COORDINATES WITH THE CHESS MOVES!!!!
Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2002 6:22 pm
Ozy_y2k
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Joined: 25 Sep 2002 Posts: 460 Location: Carmel, Indiana
don't think that's possible, since standard chessboards operate on a 64-square grid (8x8) while the map on enochonline is gridded at 48 squares (8x6). Unless you can explain further, I'd chalk this one up to overenthusiasm, paranoia and/or purposeful misdirection.
Ozy the crank
Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2002 6:31 pm
catherwood
I Have 100 Cats and Smell of Wee
Joined: 25 Sep 2002 Posts: 4109 Location: Silicon Valley, CA
Starting with the afternoon:
12:03 = E4
14:13 = C4
16:02 = B5
17:35 = E1
18:45 = D3
23:30 = D3
Continuing after midnight:
1:02 = F2
2:17 = G2
4:57 = G2
5:49 = G3
(I wasn't sure if the AM hours are the same day or into the next day.)
Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2002 7:41 pm
Ozy_y2k
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Joined: 25 Sep 2002 Posts: 460 Location: Carmel, Indiana
I think Jim's chess game in the truck began with the moves e4-e5 if I'm not mistaken. As I said in another thread, this is one of the most common openings in chess, and the folks at enochpushdialectic have extended the opening sequence as defined to be indicative of either the Andersen gambit or the guioco piano.
O
Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2002 8:02 pm
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Diandra
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Joined: 27 Sep 2002 Posts: 390
Chess Moves Here are the chess moves...
Jim Prufrock: E-4.
Prisoner 2: E-5.
Jim Prufrock: Knight, f-3.
Prisoner 1: Knight, c-6.
Jim Prufrock: Bishop, c-4.
Jim Prufrock: Queen, c-4.
Prisoner 1: Nice. Queen... c-6.
Jim's movements and chess moves begin in the same place, but I can't see how the rest fit in.
Good try, though. Keep brainstorming!
Dia
Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2002 9:31 pm
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