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[Kex]

...Wow. I enjoyed Jonclubs but I think my eyes may have rolled out of my head at those two videos. I don't usually say this, but someone seriously needs to step away from the internet for a while to cool down.

I do feel that the EMH guys pulling out the older definition of "queer" was kind of backpedaling, though. Few people use the word that way any more, and "AKA queer" is pretty obviously derogatory. Just my .02 on that part specifically; I could always be wrong, and that's fine too.

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[Didz]

What gets me is that Jon is giving everyone who doesn't take offence to it a bad name. I'm bi and haven't taken offence in the slightest. It's ridiculous. Friends always joke around and call each other names. My friends calls me all sorts in jest for being bi but I've never once turned around and got annoyed with them for it. I know they mean it as a joke and that they would never use queer or dyke in an offensive manor towards me or anyone else. If Jon is aiming this only at the EMH guys for joking around between each other then is he planning on emailing EVERYONE on youtube who has called a friend a queer on camera?
As far as I'm concerned he's trying to start a hate campaign towards EMH that'll fail miserably and when he doesn't get attention from that, he'll try something else.

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[TheNightmareComplex]

I dunno, I think it's one of those words that has generally evolved past its meaning over time and become another meaningless word, so long as it's meant that way. Clearly, Jeff isn't gay, as far as we know; Admittedly, it looks bad, but I've been called, and called others, queers. There's no hate behind the word, it's just a way to say "welp you look like an idiot." Same way that "nigga" has evolved, for the most part, past derogatory and into something far more complex. Half of the people I know use it in a friendly or nonchalant manner.

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[Mattwan]

Yeah, "queer" is still used by enough 'phobic people as a deliberate insult that using it "innocently" is still kind of a big deal. And using "you're such a foo" as a slur when they know that you are not, in fact, a foo is inherently degrading toward foos.

But people are not angels, and Jeff handled the situation in a respectful and respectable manner. Vince's response was...urgh. I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt and assuming he was too riled up to think things through, but the rule of thumb holds: appeals to the dictionary are the hallmark of a sucky argument.

Still, no hard feelings toward the guys. Language doesn't always reveal intent, and I think they're good guys at heart.

I can think of some ways Evan could do penance, though.

[TheNightmareComplex]

Also, I like how Jon claims they were breaking the fourth wall

In an alternate-reality game

A game that takes place

In our alternate reality

A game where we, and the hybrids, are all in-character.

[Anonymousity]

Mattwan, what the hell is a foo?

And you may just have blown my mind if Evan was hinting at ALL THE SLASH IN THE OT-THREAD... which, if he did, may be the most hilarious thing ever!!

[Axcelissearching]

I don't know about all of this, I thought that last video was a little reasonable...

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