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What do you want to see?/What are you sick of?
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Aperion
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question about amount

So here's a question guys exactly how much is too much?
I have a idea for using different character perspectives in a story
how many different blogs/vlogs would you think would be okay for one story?
I know Marble hornets had both J and tothearks different channels but what about something that had like six different blogs provided it was interesting would you read something that complicated or is that just too much?

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i think that EMH is too much. or, make it so that there are other blogs, but that they aren't essential to understand the main videos.

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Re: question about amount

Aperion wrote:
So here's a question guys exactly how much is too much?
I have a idea for using different character perspectives in a story
how many different blogs/vlogs would you think would be okay for one story?
I know Marble hornets had both J and tothearks different channels but what about something that had like six different blogs provided it was interesting would you read something that complicated or is that just too much?


I think that most of the blogs/vlogs have about two.

I know that, if they had continued, Jonclubs113 would have had about 3-4 vlogs. And the Stopping Lights universe is pretty crazy and all over the place, as far as blogs/vlogs (but I like it none the less...)

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I think I may have an idea for multiple blogs. Basically, you need to link the blog posts together in chronological order. Say you've got blog A and blog B (just two in the example, to keep it simple). Blog A makes a post. Then, a few days later, blog B makes a post, with a link to Blog A's previous post. Blog A goes back to its post and edits it so that at the bottom, there's a link to Blog B's new post. That way, anyone who is new to the story doesn't need to constantly keep track of which posts were made at which time, and what order they're supposed to be read in. All they need to do is keep clicking on the links which lead to the next blog post in the story.

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Re: question about amount

Aperion wrote:
So here's a question guys exactly how much is too much?


Here's something I've been trying to advocate to others elsewhere - EMH would've benefited greatly form this. Basically, contrive of some reason for your group of characters to need a website domain to hold all their youtube channels/blogs/twitter accts/etc (hence why EMH would've benefited; they already had a reason to do this). Make sure that the front page news section of the domain is structured like a blog. That way, you have a home port where new updates can be fit in chronological order, even when they're posted laterally throughout the web. Invent a particularly investigative, tech-savvy character to be the webmaster. That way, the updates he/she "finds" from the outlier characters (the rogues, loose-cannons, tech savvy antagonists and so forth) seem like a reasonable thing for him/her to find and post.

If you don't think you have the writing skill to make a convincing argument for said character's existence, then simply having a place where your multiple forms of media are linked would itself be greatly helpful. Even if it's not *every* character involved in the story.

Keep in mind, I'm still talking about something that exists in-game. Which means you need a reasonable explanation for why the site exists. But I feel like that shouldn't be too hard to excuse.

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Seems as if all Slendy series end in a mediocre way.


Also better characters. These types of things kinda need good characters.

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Endings are all a matter of writing the story in a complete manner. I think they're an Achilles heel not of slenderman ARGs in particular, but all ARGs in general. By its nature, an ARG is about the moment, the "now". They're about inventing a persistent world which you've set in perpetual motion. Planning for the finish, then, may feel almost like giving up to an ARG writer. But it's no less important a facet of the experience.

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Have we covered the new locales bit? For example, the road that wasn't in one of the recent EMH?

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Re: question about amount

zbeeblebrox wrote:
Aperion wrote:
So here's a question guys exactly how much is too much?


Here's something I've been trying to advocate to others elsewhere - EMH would've benefited greatly form this. Basically, contrive of some reason for your group of characters to need a website domain to hold all their youtube channels/blogs/twitter accts/etc (hence why EMH would've benefited; they already had a reason to do this). Make sure that the front page news section of the domain is structured like a blog. That way, you have a home port where new updates can be fit in chronological order, even when they're posted laterally throughout the web. Invent a particularly investigative, tech-savvy character to be the webmaster. That way, the updates he/she "finds" from the outlier characters (the rogues, loose-cannons, tech savvy antagonists and so forth) seem like a reasonable thing for him/her to find and post.

If you don't think you have the writing skill to make a convincing argument for said character's existence, then simply having a place where your multiple forms of media are linked would itself be greatly helpful. Even if it's not *every* character involved in the story.

Keep in mind, I'm still talking about something that exists in-game. Which means you need a reasonable explanation for why the site exists. But I feel like that shouldn't be too hard to excuse.


Why? We have the everymanhybrid wiki, which is a suitable hub for information, and more believable.

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It's fine that EverymanHYBRID in particular only has a wiki, there's nothing wrong with that method at its core. But 1) that means it's out-of-universe, 2) it sort of alienates newcomers since there's no way for EMH to refer to it without also going out-of-universe and 3) most importantly, in general (not blasting EMH in particular for reasons below) it represents a lack of foresight on the storyteller's part if the only things that put together all the elements of the story are fan-created.

It's pretty much the line between an alternate reality story - which is what I consider slenderman series - and alternate reality games where putting these things together is the player's job. Obviously EMH would rather be seen as a game, whereas a series like MH would clearly rather be seen as a story. Most people running slender series around here seem to prefer the MH route, even EMH most of the time.

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sje46
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I guess what I'm saying is that it might take viewers out of the story if they create a page to compile all the information like that. It makes it look more deliberate than them just stumbling about. For example, they did not know about Alex and the rake, and they can not see the hidden videos, etc. And sure, you could have a third party character do it, but they're not really a character if they don't have any plot points themselves. If they play a part in the series, then they, too, have to be blind about some things, and they, too, have to view this as real life as opposed to a game.

If you consider this from the IG character's POV, it would be really weird to compile all the information on one site like that. I mean, yeah, they could have a blog, but they have a vlog instead. Youtube is their page. What else is there? They linked to Damsel's blog. And they probably linked to their twitter at some point.

why would they make a page to compile their tweets alongside their videos? From an IG POV, why would they do that? They are documenting things for us, which is why they have a camera. The twitter is unimportant. Damsel is a nut. We're viewing this as a game, and are therefore analyzing every tweet and every thing they do and say. But from their perspective, they're just living their life.

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Endless_Serpents
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I want to see more movement from Slenderman/whatever monster/the villain.

This is especially relevant in the blogs, where it costs nothing but your imagination to make him do things.

I'd like to read about the cast seeing him stood in their kitchen, looking through their drawers idly. He doesn't have to do backflips, but even having him sit on a chair could be creepy with the right set up and description!

Honestly, the amount of non visual blogs that talk about him standing still in the distance is just crazy.

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awakeasaurusrex
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Endless_Serpents wrote:
Honestly, the amount of non visual blogs that talk about him standing still in the distance is just crazy.

It's not even that hard to show him moving. Yes, some of the bits in MH where Slendy was on the move did look fakey (like entry 14 and return), but too many video series just have him as a guy who just stands there.

What was the scariest part of the first EMH video? The bit where Slendy *looks at you*. What was the scariest aspect of his manifestation in the sixth EMH episode? *That damn thing he does with his head.*

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awakeasaurusrex wrote:
Endless_Serpents wrote:
Honestly, the amount of non visual blogs that talk about him standing still in the distance is just crazy.

It's not even that hard to show him moving. Yes, some of the bits in MH where Slendy was on the move did look fakey (like entry 14 and return), but too many video series just have him as a guy who just stands there.

What was the scariest part of the first EMH video? The bit where Slendy *looks at you*. What was the scariest aspect of his manifestation in the sixth EMH episode? *That damn thing he does with his head.*


I think a great way to incorperate movement would be to have the camera sweep past an area a few times and have him be closer each time
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I have an idea for a slenderseries I'd really like to do, and one of the things planned is a scene where Slenderman actually takes hostile action towards a character on camera, moreso than in Marble Hornets 26 or EverymanHybrid's Ashen Waste. And I think it'll be really awesome, but for that reason I don't wanna talk about it too much on here XD

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