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Randoman96 wrote:
Using a few effects in Sony Vegas, I seem to be able to get a closer image of something, reduce pixelation, but still get a decent amount of detail from it, if not increasing detail (Entry #45 Hoody comparison below).

Is there anything in any of the MH entries/TTA videos that we just couldn't get a very good look at? I'll do my best to fiddle around with it.


The second image looks like Oogie Boogie from Nightmare Before Christmas.

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so ive been reading a lot of theories and speculations that have been using what they consider evidence. i have a few questions for these people and i didnt really know where else to ask.

first question: What are the 4 masks that people are saying control TTA account?

second question: what evidence has officially claimed that all 4 masks are working together?

third question: what evidence has been shown that links all 4 masks to the TTA youtube acct?

thanks in advance for answering my questions Very Happy

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first question: What are the 4 masks that people are saying control TTA account?
Tim (Masky) in the white mask, "Hoody" in the black mask (identity unknown), "Skully" in a skull-designed white mask (identity unknown, not completely confirmed for being a mask), and that's all I know of. There is just speculation on there being 4 members of TTA, due to the four pieces of the (X) symbol.

second question: what evidence has officially claimed that all 4 masks are working together?
Nothing at the moment, but Hoody(?) was seen working with Tim in #45.

third question: what evidence has been shown that links all 4 masks to the TTA youtube acct?
Tim has appeared in at least two TTA entries, Hoody has been drawn, Skully (probably) has been drawn, and a camera POV from Hoody has been seen as well.
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Randoman96 wrote:
first question: What are the 4 masks that people are saying control TTA account?
Tim (Masky) in the white mask, "Hoody" in the black mask (identity unknown), "Skully" in a skull-designed white mask (identity unknown, not completely confirmed for being a mask), and that's all I know of. There is just speculation on there being 4 members of TTA, due to the four pieces of the (X) symbol.


There is also the lady or fellow in the hoodie with their face concealed (be it mask, bandanna, whatever) in Entry #45. It's not certain that that figure is the same as "hoodie" from #41 etc.

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JKatkina wrote:
Randoman96 wrote:
first question: What are the 4 masks that people are saying control TTA account?
Tim (Masky) in the white mask, "Hoody" in the black mask (identity unknown), "Skully" in a skull-designed white mask (identity unknown, not completely confirmed for being a mask), and that's all I know of. There is just speculation on there being 4 members of TTA, due to the four pieces of the (X) symbol.


There is also the lady or fellow in the hoodie with their face concealed (be it mask, bandanna, whatever) in Entry #45. It's not certain that that figure is the same as "hoodie" from #41 etc.


thats who i thought was the 4th or possibly only 3rd if that was hoody, but i thought it looked closer to skully. and all of these theories that blasky and masky work together are speculation still. i just dont see the reason to speculate new theory upon something that is still speculation lol

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What if it's sort of like Bioshock? What if they wear the masks because they're ashamed of how far they've fallen?

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Hey guys, I wanted to at least attempt to contribute something here so I put together a timeline of everything that has happened. I'm not promising it's 100% accurate, but I re-watched the show last night and put it together to the best of my ability and what made sense to me. So take that for what it's worth.



SEASON 1:


Entry 5: Jay films Alex scouting locations for Marble Hornets. Audio and Visual tears.

Entry 12: The entire group spots Slender Man thinking he's just a ordinary man and that he'll move later. The clip ends with them approaching Slender Man basically, what seems like their going to tell him to get off the property before the clip ends.

Entry 17: Footage of Marble Hornets: Tim is doing his lines inside, nothing too out of the ordinary...besides TO in the background outside the window, and cast members acting just a tad..off. J doesn't remember the clip happening.

Entry 20: The set of Marble Hornets; presumably about to shoot and just waiting for Tim to show up. Tim is in terrible condition. Sick; grumpy; tired; heavy coughing, etc. He is taking pills.

Entry 2: Alex is driving around to find a lamppost where he saw a 'strange' man that scared his dog shitless.

Entry 4: Potential continuation of #2. Alex is walking around a park at night, the play structure seeming to move on its' own. He meets up with and runs from Slender Man.

Entry 13: Alex and J are exploring more locations to film, and Alex sends J back to the car to get more tapes for the camera. Alex keeps exploring, finding TO symbol on the ground and running straight into Slender Man.

Entry 7: Alex is recording Brian acting out a scene from Marble Hornets in a car, while Slender Man is creeping around in the background.

Entry 3: Alex is acting very strangely and this is the point where he starts becoming very ..moody and keeping a camera on himself at all times.

Entry 9: A scene from Marble Hornets is being recorded, Alex is getting pissed off at everyone, J is apologizing for stopping the camera's recording, and TO is chilling around in the background.

Entry 8: Alex recording himself drawing stuff in a crazy manner.

Entry 11: Alex is woken up by something then wanders around his house looking for the disturbance. Upon returning to bed and shutting off the lights, the shadow of something, presumably Slender Man. The drawings he drew are hung up on his wall.

Entry 14: Slender Man enters the room. The entry skips ahead to a short clip of Alex bleeding from his head.

Entry 1: (Presumably the next night) Audio missing. Alex is walking around his house and looks outside of a window only to see the Operator.

Entry 6: Audio missing. Possible continuation of #1; Alex is wandering around his house looking for TO, eventually finding each other. Alex runs.

Entry 10: Audio missing. Alex is running from TO while in a forest. Nothing happens after this. I can only assume something bad happened.

Entry 22: Alex and Seth are investigating an abandoned pump room hunting for TO. Seth is attacked (by TO?). Entry jumps to Alex back in a normal room and saying "Seth- is gone. I don't remember what happened; we were the only two left, and I left him. Brian is gone. Tim, Jay, and Sarah..everyone is gone. I just woke up in this house with the tape; Seth's camera is gone. All I can remember from the night is right here....all I can remember at all, is on that tape." Alex reveals that he is going to burn all of the tapes.



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He stops the filming for Marble Hornets and, after being annoyed about it, gives all his tapes to Jay instead of burning them. He told Jay never to talk about those tapes to him again (All part of Alex trying to forget everything that happened). We're lead to believe that over the next three years, Alex moved elsewhere and started a new life, met Amy who would become his girlfriend, and the two lived together with another person, Jessica.

Jay forgets all about the tapes (well, that's what we're told) for three years, until finding them in his home and, for the first time, looking through everything. He decides to upload all strange footage to YouTube.

After seeing Alex's footage, a very worried Jay decides he is going to investigate and see what happened/is Alex okay/etc.

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Entry 15: In wanting to find more out about Alex and what was going on at the time of the SM occurrences three years ago, Jay gets in contact with Tim—another MH actor. Tim notes that Alex filmed himself constantly; he hasn't seen Brian in a very long time; and that just before Brian disappeared, Brian would talk about dead animals in his front yard. (Slender-stalked?). Tim presumably didn't remember anything about TO.

Entry 16: J goes urban exploring inside a house which he was anonymously told he could find Brian. The house shows obvious signs of desertion. Blood in sink.

Entry 19: J realizes he's been filming himself the same way Alex was. He films himself going to sleep. Tim/Masky shows up in the middle of the night. After severely heavy distortion, J is suddenly gone from his bed.

TTA's 'Return' video: This shows where Jay was during the several hours he was missing from his bed in #19. He has a dazed look sitting down in the middle of the hall way while TO walks towards the camera. "Found you. forever" is written at the end.

Entry 19.5: Jay realizes that the pill bottle he found at the house in entry 16 is now empty. Jay claims he never took any pills (did Tim take it? He was taking pills before). The bullet casing he found is missing. Alex's crazed drawings that he found indicates to go to the red tower.

Entry 18: J goes back to the house to do more exploring. He finds a doll that resembles TO and is attacked by Tim/Masky.

Entry 21: Jay goes to the red tower and finds a strange tape.

Entry 22: Contents of the strange tape are posted. (See Entry 22 above)

Entry 23: Jay goes back to the house during the day to see if he can find anything else since it's the only lead he has. The bloody sink is clean. Jay catches Tim/Masky spying on him and Tim/Masky disappears. Severe teleportation occurs with Jay upstairs and he ends up in the closet downstairs. He teleports again into the pump room Alex and Seth were in from before. The video ends with Jay coming in direct contact with TO and him telling us he woke up in his room the next day. He doesn't remember any of that happening. And he never wants to go back to that house again.

Entry 24: Very odd video. Jay is recording himself with surveillance cameras set up in house. Teleportation galore! Jay walks out of his bedroom, but instead of walking into the next room, he is teleported. We see him go through the door, but never the other side.

Entry ######: TTA uploads a video on Jay's channel saying "We will wait for you no more. Control is being taken away from you. From the start it's been a game for us. Not anymore. I'm coming for you, and you will lead me totheark."

Entry 25: Jay, scared shitless from the TTA vid, decides to stay at a hotel and not stay at his usual apartment. He later finds out on the news that his apartment has been burned down. Video tearing implies TO was present during the fire.

! Jay receives text message from a strange number (35:77//47) saying "41810". It is assumed that it's a date: April 18th, 2010.

! Jay receives a package containing another tape on April 18th. The tape is from Alex and shows TO's attack on him and his girlfriend.

Entry 26: Jay recaps to the audience saying that he's been moving from hotel-to-hotel frequently. He says that he's been feeling better and not as paranoid lately. He announces that this is his last entry and that he is going to go investigate the return address on the package he received and he is determined to find Alex.



* End of Season 1 *






SEVEN MONTH MEMORY LOSS:



Entry 34: Jay investigates an abandoned house. It's assumed that this is where the return address took him.

Entry 35: Jay investigates the house again. This time Alex shows up, and Tim/Masky comes out of no where and attacks Alex. Alex gets stabbed by Tim/Masky but retaliates by smashing his leg with a giant rock. Masky is revealed to be Tim.

Entry 36: Alex tells Jay that he'll call him.

Entry 39: Jay has been living in his car. He gets a call from Alex saying to meet him at Rosswood park tomorrow—without saying anything else. Later, as he is asleep, a masked man walks past the car. It's later revealed that this was one of the TTA members.

Entry 45: 'Approximately 3 months after finding Alex' Jay and Alex reunited on Feb 16 2011. That means this entry takes place around here on the timeline. Which is interesting, since this is a time when Alex was acting very serious and not-himself whenever he spoke to Alex on the phone. Alex is ambushed by the TTA crew, but runaway when TO shows up.

Entry 40: Jay goes to Rosswood park. Since he doesn't know WHEN during the day Alex will show up, he goes hiking in the woods. Jay calls Alex in the woods to tell him where he's at. Direct Operator confrontation shortly after. Jay drops the camera and runs out of the forest.

Entry 41: A masked man picks up the camera from the woods and returns it to Jay's car.

Entry 42: Alex arrives to the park and gets Jay's message about being in the forest and goes to find him. Jay and Alex decide to leave and Jay finds his camera in the car. Alex asks help finding Amy and that he still hasn't seen her since what happened.

Entry 43: Alex and Jay go to the house Alex and Amy were staying at. It's revealed that Jessica was their roommate. It's also revealed that after the incident where he and Amy jumped out of the window, he doesn't remember anything after that besides waking up in a hotel room with a camera. (Sound familiar?). Jay goes back home, Alex goes to investigate the woods and encounters The Operator...and walks towards him!

Entry 44: *Only days (if that) after entry #43* Alex possibly lies to Jessica about getting in touch with Amy. He is acting 'slender-sick' (ex. coughing up blood, drawing operator pictures, staring into space, etc.) TO appears and teleports Alex away in the middle of the night.

Entry 38: Jay and Alex are walking through the forest. Alex is not himself and is acting very dark. Alex tells Jay a story about the history of the forest.


Entry 29: Somebody is walking through the forest and finds a tunnel. Inside, blood is all over the ground, on a large rock, and a rag. Direct Operator encounter at the end of the tunnel. It is unknown whether this was Jay or Alex.






* SEASON 2 *



Entry 27: Jay wakes up in a hotel and doesn't remember anything that happened since Entry 26. He decides to stay at the hotel for a while longer.

Entry 28: Jay searches his bag and finds ibuprofen pills, a large flashlight, and an unknown key that he decides to keep. He finds a safe, but doesn't know the password to open it. Jay meets Jessica. Lies to her about why he is staying at the hotel and why he's filming. Jessica says his name sounds familiar.

Entry 30: Jessica asks why he's staying at the hotel. Jay gives a second lie about why he's staying there. Jessica lies and says she was kicked out. Distortion while Jessica spoke. Noises came from Jessica's room in the middle of the night; Jay woke up and knocked on her door to see what was going on. Jessica was apparently asleep and has no idea what he's talking about. Jay is left looking like a freak.

Entry 31: Jay investigates the local park to attempt to find the location of entry 29. Jay talks to Jessica again but gets caught in a lie about why he's staying at the hotel. Jessica asks if Jay has been having memory loss.

Entry 32: Jessica confronts Jay and reveals that she doesn't know how she got at the hotel, doesn't remember anything, has been losing chunks of time, and other symptoms that come with being 'slender-stalked'. Jay seemingly decides that they will work together and starts packing his things. Distortion on Jessica's voice again.

Entry 33: Jessica suddenly disappears. Jay finds a password in her room and uses it to open his Safe. Jay collects the tapes from the safe and is attacked by Tim/Masky and chased out of the building.






* PRESENT TENSE *

Right now, Jay is watching over the tons of hours of footage he found in the safe and trying to find anything special in them in what appears to be a pretty secure location. Everything he uploads goes into the seven-month absence time-frame. It's unknown if he's been filming himself while laying low and watching footage. Alex's, Amy's, Jessica's, and everyone else's whereabouts are unknown.


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Good post. But I'm pretty sure 19 and 19.5 doesn't come before 18. Everything Jay did in real time was in correct order.

Other then that, the order looks pretty good. It's hard to tell where entry 1, 6, 10, and 4 come in.

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I'm fairly certain 39-44 happens near the start of the 7 months, like the abandoned house. 19(.5) is clearly after 18.

And, technically, Alex and Jay met up in April of 2010, not Feb 2011.
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1) Description of #9 is totally wrong. Neither J nor the Operator are in that entry at all.
2) Pretty sure #18 takes place before #19. They're the same day/night, in chronological order.
3) The house in #34 isn't just assumed to be the return address, J flat-out states that it is.
4) I'm pretty sure #45 takes place slightly under three months after #44. Don't really understand how you're interpreting the timeline to have it take place between 39 and 40?

Other than that, seems good.

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BranRainey wrote:
1) Description of #9 is totally wrong. Neither J nor the Operator are in that entry at all.
2) The house in #34 isn't assumed to be the return address, J flat-out states that this is so.
3) I'm pretty sure #45 takes place slightly under three months after #44. Don't really understand how you're interpreting the timeline to have it take place between 39 and 40?
Yeah, I was wrong about the interpretation there. I did the timeline at 3 in the morning, so I guess I just didn't think everything through thoroughly enough.

I saw that #45 said that it was approximately 3 months after finding Alex. Stupid me went to the video that they reunited, and added 3 months to the date it was posted. I completely forgot that it happened long before it was posted, lol.

So taking those things into consideration now..... Since #35 (the entry Alex and Jay reunited) happened some time near the beginning of the 7 month absence, that means the abandoned house entries happened around April 2010. Approximately three months later would be July. Not sure where that would fit exactly in the timeline, but I'm guessing it would have been some time after his encounter with TO in #43.

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Bumped for proper discussion of upcoming Entry #46.
Jay says he's following Alex in these recent tapes.

Wonder if this will span the extra 3 months that happened between 44 & 45

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12th wrote:
Bumped for proper discussion of upcoming Entry #46.
Jay says he's following Alex in these recent tapes.

Wonder if this will span the extra 3 months that happened between 44 & 45


That's an interesting thought! It was tossed around that Jay was the one Alex was chasing in 45... maybe if the next entry at least begins to cover three months we haven't seen, that person could very well be Jay by the end of that period of time(the end being Entry 45).

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FossilizedSauce wrote:
That's an interesting thought! It was tossed around that Jay was the one Alex was chasing in 45... maybe if the next entry at least begins to cover three months we haven't seen, that person could very well be Jay by the end of that period of time(the end being Entry 45).


Yeah, the tweet about Jay footage of Alexstalking has legitimately brought the idea of jay = hoody back into question.

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12th wrote:
FossilizedSauce wrote:
That's an interesting thought! It was tossed around that Jay was the one Alex was chasing in 45... maybe if the next entry at least begins to cover three months we haven't seen, that person could very well be Jay by the end of that period of time(the end being Entry 45).


Yeah, the tweet about Jay footage of Alexstalking has legitimately brought the idea of jay = hoody back into question.


I thought it was generally accepted that Jay =/= Hoody since... like, the episode where Hoody made his debut.

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