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Ok, so I'm thinking we may have just seen what caused Tim to become Masky in this last entry. It's obvious that he was pretty messed up by that whole experience.

Also, I've noticed that there are a number of entries that all seem to end the same way. Crazy commotion undoubtedly caused by Slendy, then just a cut to the camera on the ground. Someone picks up the camera, then just slowly and silently walks away.


Something just occurred to me as I was typing this. What if Alex isn't teamed up with Slendy? What if he's only "feeding" people to Slendy to keep Slendy away from him? Or Slendy could be threatening Alex by basically saying, "If you don't feed me, I'll come after YOU."

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A lot of people are buying into those theories.
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^ Probably close but not there yet. I'm thinking there's two more. One to show how Jessica and Jay ended up at the hotel at the end of the seven months and one in present day to set up the season break.


Yeah, I would say there's gotta be at least two more, unless there's one really long entry.

Jay and Jessica still have to meet up with Alex at Rosswood and some event has to lead up to "no entry." Jay has to somehow acquire Alex's chestcam and show how both him and Jessica wind up at the hotel together with their memories wiped. Then there has to be some kind of reason as to why there's going to be a break in between seasons. Probably something in present time.

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I'm pretty sure that there's going to be one more (long) entry in Season 2. There were 26 entries in Season 1 and we're very close to the end of Season 2.

I bet Jay is going to start searching for something important after the next entry is posted, thus causing the season gap.
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Bro hooves. There were 26 as you say is why I think next video in the last vlog update in the season two is with in reason. Could we have couple more TTA videos.

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Hey guys, I may have figured some stuff out. Bear with me while I explain it all.



Okay, so we know that when a camera gets too close to the Operator, it shuts off. There's really no way for you to find out what happened to yourself if your camera died when the Operator was near.

Unless... you have someone else remind you what happened. That's right, you encounter the Operator with a friend. While the two of you may initially forget the whole ordeal, at least one of you will have a vague inkling of what happened. You and your friend will talk about this, and the two of you will be able to help each other remember everything from your encounter.

However, these are not memories you'll want to remember. The horrific events from your Operator encounter will drive you insane. Your friend will always be a reminder to you of what happened, and you'll be the same to your friend. The two of you will become increasingly paranoid, finding yourselves hiding away in dark and abandoned locations, even going as far as to conceal your own faces from the world. Out of pure shock from your encounter, you'll find yourself unable to properly communicate with others. However, you'll still be capable of thinking somewhat rationally, and if the opportunity comes, you may take measures to avenge yourselves, or to prevent others from facing the same fate that you and your friend did.

But what if you encounter the Operator with someone you vaguely know? Not a friend, but perhaps more of someone you just recently met and have a low likelihood of talking to again after you both forget the events surrounding the Operator encounter? Well, as long as you and this other person don't meet again and start talking to each other about this, the two of you will be fine. But you must avoid talking to each other at all costs. If you do start talking, you best hope that someone runs into the room and chases you out of the building, effectively keeping the two of you apart for each other's sake.

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Now let's take and apply that knowledge:

In 2006, during the production of Marble Hornets, Alex led Tim to to the abandoned hospital. There, Tim encountered the Operator and fell into a sort of "Slendy stasis", before waking up from the encounter. (Let's assume that all people who encounter the Operator and do not escape fall into such a state before waking up)

Some time shortly after, Alex led Brian to the same hospital. Brian found Tim while he was still in this "Slendy stasis", and then both of them encountered the Operator.

The two wake up sometime later. Tim tells Brian that he had some sort of strange nightmare, and from there, they talk and help each other remember the entire encounter. These memories drive them mad and they become Masky and Hoody. For a brief while in 2006, they stalk Alex, even going as far as to record the footage of Jay getting Alex's spare camera battery from his car (The footage in "Exit", which corresponds to Entry #13's events). (They may have actually prevented Alex from leading Jay to his demise, for the building in Entry #13 is supposedly the exterior of the building that Alex led Seth to. Maybe Alex brought Jay there for the same reason?)

Sometime later, Alex moves away. Tim and Brian agree to stop meeting each other, and they resume their lives as normal people again.

In 2009, Jay begins uploading the tapes to YouTube. Brian sees the videos, and recognizes the slender figure. This drives him to contact Tim and they start to meet semi-regularly and become totheark once again. (I say semi-regularly because Tim was certainly acting normal during the interview in Entry #15)


Now, in the upcoming entry, we're lead to believe that Alex is going to take Jay and Jessica out into the woods. I find it very likely that they will encounter the Operator in there.

Since Jay and Jessica will be encountering the Operator together, they will be in a similar situation as Tim and Brian were. However, since Jay and Jessica haven't known each other for a long time, the encounter will cause them to forget they ever met each other.

Later on, in Entry #32, Jessica begins to open up to Jay. She tells him about strange dreams and symptoms she has been experiencing. Jay stops her from continuing, and advises her to pack her things so the two of them can leave the hotel and continue that conversation later. However, Jessica disappears and Masky shows up. Masky did this on purpose, to keep Jay and Jessica away from each other. If they continued that conversation, they'd remember their whole encounter and end up just like Masky and Hoody.


As for the distortion whenever Jessica, Masky, or Hoody are around, it's not caused by any one of them individually, but by multiple slendy victims being together. Mutual distortion, I guess you could call it.

When Masky is around Jay, there's distortion because they're both Slendy victims. Same with when Jessica's around Jay.

When Hoody picked up Jay's camera in Entry #43, no distortion from him! That's because he, like Jay in all other circumstances, was the only Slendy victim in the immediate area.

This assumes that Alex is an exception to this rule, because he rarely causes distortion on Jay's camera. But Alex is no ordinary Slendy victim anyway.

This could also explain the camera shutting off when Jay walked through the tunnel in Entry #50. A Slendy victim was murdered there, so it would make sense for there to be heavy amounts of distortion. In Entries #22 and #42, we see distortion coming from holes in the ground. Maybe Slendy victims were buried in those places? Who knows.

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^This is by far one of the best explainations i've heard in a while.

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Foood wrote:
best theory ever

I really hope that this is accurate because it's awesome.

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I'll admit that it's an angle that I haven't considered, but it's plausible, except for the holes theory.

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Zarggg wrote:
I'll admit that it's an angle that I haven't considered, but it's plausible, except for the holes theory.

Seconded. It's an intriguing angle. Comes closer to explaining something that's been nagging me--"the twins"--than any theory I've read thus far. 

The holes theory doesn't feel right to me for two reasons. First, the only dead body we've seen was disappeared by The Operator, not buried. Jay's tweets about the lack of Bruce info seem to indicate that something more extraordinary than kill-and-bury is happening. 

Second, we don't know yet whether Slendyvics actually die. The only definitely dead person we've seen was killed by human hand. It's possible that human hand was acting under heavy Operator influence  or being Operated outright. I personally believe the former, but at this point, both are pure spec. Let's not bury the bodies before they're dead, y'know?

We know very little about Slendyvics at all, actually. Can we even say for sure who the Slendyvics are in this story? (Not rhetorical, by the way.)

I do realize the holes theory was only a small piece of what you've presented, Foood. I certainly didn't miss the main points; I just don't have anything other than "Good work!" to add to them. Smile  
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As for the distortion whenever Jessica, Masky, or Hoody are around, it's not caused by any one of them individually, but by multiple slendy victims being together. Mutual distortion, I guess you could call it.

When Masky is around Jay, there's distortion because they're both Slendy victims. Same with when Jessica's around Jay.


The distortion bit isn't a bad idea, since two conflicting channels will cause feedback if brought into close proximity to each other.

I have to think there are incidences of two slendy-tainted folks not causing distortion. I want to point out entry 45, but since the relevant footage has no audio whatsoever, I can't call that a dealbreaker.

I will note that Entry 51 does call into question what exactly happened after Entry 13 ended, and whether Alex was luring Jay there for a Slendy-Snack.

EDIT: checked, there's audio when Timasky tackles Alex - but no trademark audio distortion as he does so.
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That does seem to be a pretty good theory. Forcing people to be isolated from each other in this way seems like it would fit the Operator's modus operandi, and the connection to feedback fits into the "telephone operator" metaphor that Marble Hornets sometimes uses. (Even aside from telephones causing interference with each other, they can cause interference and distortion in cameras as well. My Nex-VG10 goes haywire any time someone in the vicinity of its microphone receives a text message.)

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I feel like there are several instances where the chance meeting of several characters broken by the Operator have not produced any noticeable distortion. Honestly, at this point, I feel like distortion have never been consistent at all, besides being an element to disorient the viewer into an uncomfortable state. As for the rest of the theory, it's risky to assume how two people recollecting the same experience will react and bond depending on how well they know eachother. You seem to assume we should buy these facts, but I've yet to take a nibble.

At this point, we still need to watch the unfolding before completely fleshing out how the twins came about. Especially without any hard evidence that Brian is even alive or dead at this point.
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The distortion and the holes parts of the theory were more-or-less tacked on at the end as I was writing it. Actually, I sorta came up with the whole thing as I wrote.

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it's risky to assume how two people recollecting the same experience will react and bond depending on how well they know eachother.


How well they know each other doesn't determine how they would react and bond. How well they know each other determines the likelihood that they would talk again after the encounter. In Jay and Jessica's experience, they forgot they had ever known each other because they had met not long before the actual encounter itself (assuming there is going to be one). Tim and Brian were friends and next-door neighbors for who knows how long.

oh wait, Jay and Jessica were "next door neighbors" in the hotel. Interesting.

The whole thing about Jay and Jessica having adjoining rooms sorta squashes my theory a bit. If they knew, or if whoever put them there knew, that they couldn't meet again, then it was sort-of a bad choice to stay, or have them be placed, in adjoining rooms. I'm struggling to really explain the reasons/motives/details regarding how they got to the hotel.


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That does seem to be a pretty good theory. Forcing people to be isolated from each other in this way seems like it would fit the Operator's modus operandi, and the connection to feedback fits into the "telephone operator" metaphor that Marble Hornets sometimes uses. (Even aside from telephones causing interference with each other, they can cause interference and distortion in cameras as well. My Nex-VG10 goes haywire any time someone in the vicinity of its microphone receives a text message.)


Dunno if this is relevant or not, but in Entry #27, the phone next to Jay's bed is off the hook. This was, of course, right after Jay woke up from his memory loss, so maybe it had something to do with it. The phone could just be a symbolic thing though.

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