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Just What is He?
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AxMxK
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 Just What is He?
One humble fan offers his opinion.

Slender Man, to me, has always been a living manifestation, an avatar, if you will, of the very concept of fear.

The most important thing here is to know that mankind has always feared one thing above all else: the unknown, that which he does not understand.

Slender Man fills this role perfectly; we don't know what he really does or why he exists. All we truly know is his basic appearance and even that is debated. Some think he is a tall, long limbed humanoid, others believe he has shadowy tendrils but all we can really agree on is that he has no face and wears a tie and suit.

No face. No eyes. Nothing for us for us to perceive emotion from. Nothing to read, nothing for us to relate to. A faceless, seemingly evil being who does not seem to experience any sort of feeling. And what makes him different from other creatures that have no face, say, a jellyfish, is that he is vaguely human. A suit. And tie.

What does Slender Man do? What is he really DOING in all those pictures and videos in them? We don't know what he does when he's not standing there. What is he doing, standing there like that? For the most part he is just... standing there. Being menacing. Distorting the videos, making things even more unclear and harder for us to understand. Producing fear in everyone that perceives him. He's simply inspiring confusion, paranoia. He just... scares us.

He has said to prey the most on children, the members of the human species that understand the least about the world. Naive as they are, they are the most susceptible to fear because they know so little. Even the dark scares them simply because they see the least in the dark.

The elements that have come to be associated with Slender Man, to me, also fit the idea that he is a living embodiment of fear itself. The dark forest, trees, fire, the water and flood. These are all natural things that produces fear in man. The fact that these are naturally occurring elements perhaps imply that Slender Man is not a product of mankind's "foolish science" but something naturally occurring as well.

The night forest which mankind has been fearing to wander off into ever since he discovered agriculture and settled down. The forest trees, still, silent and tall creatures, and with slender shadows make them fit Slender Man perfectly. Fire, now a tool of man, was once a devastating, immutable natural force and still can be today. Water, while a source of life, can be destructive and unstoppable when there's enough of it. The idea of the flood, a rising tide in which you drown in should you wade in too deep. This nicely parallels the idea that if you wade in too deep into Slender Man territory, you will drown. Stories like Marble Hornets and EverymanHYBRID fit this, where the protagonists don't know what they're wading into, and are beginning to drown.

Where did the idea of Slender Man come from? Well it all started with one post in an image thread, we all know that. From the mind of Victor Surge, very little was said about the Slender Man. We did the rest, adding on to the mythos, pouring our imaginations into this cryptic creature, trying to come up with something to really wrap our minds around.

What happens to the people that disappear?
"Whether he absorbs, kills, or mearly takes his victims to an undiclosed location or dimension is also unknown as there are never any bodys or evidence left behind in his wake to deduce a definite conclusion."
Sure we think he might be taking them or killing them but there's no really solid evidence of that. All we know is that they're disappearing when he starts showing up, and that these individuals start acting increasingly paranoid, afraid, irritable, etc. The victims don't tell anyone else anything really concrete because they don't have a solid understanding either. They start losing track of things, everything blurs together as they struggle to organize their thoughts to understand the thing that antagonizes them. But all they really know is that they're afraid. Perhaps the people that are disappearing are merely... running. Running as fast as they can away from something they don't understand and don't want to find out by sticking around. Running until it kills them.

It is along these lines of thinking that I have come to the conclusion of what Slender Man is, or at the very least what he represents. Slender Man is not some government experiment gone wrong, or some ghost of some burned down children's home, but a living embodiment of fear.

"We have nothing to fear but fear itself."

When you think about how scary things are, everything else, compared to Slender Man, is a cakewalk.

I know, however, I am but one person and my ideas are not infallible. Thus, I humbly ask for feedback, contribution and even grammar corrections. I will edit if necessary.

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Mind if I amend that? How he gathers Maskies and tries to reach out and touch his victims to do something to them suggests that he might be the embodiment of the fear of being alone along with a fear of the unknown.

He always seems to cause people to run away from their friends and families, cutting them off from the very support they would need to be able to get away and survive.

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In several of the original Slender Man posts on SA, he was described as leaving bodies impaled on sticks, and taking out organs, shoving them in plastic bags, then putting them back into peoples' dead bodies... so the part about not knowing whether he kills them or not isn't entirely true in all cases.
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The Sound Ninja wrote:
Mind if I amend that? How he gathers Maskies and tries to reach out and touch his victims to do something to them suggests that he might be the embodiment of the fear of being alone along with a fear of the unknown.

He always seems to cause people to run away from their friends and families, cutting them off from the very support they would need to be able to get away and survive.


I'm not saying that he is an embodiment of the fear of the unknown per se, but fear as a general concept. I assume that man's greatest fears, if we simplify it, is fear of the unknown. Slender Man is something we don't understand entirely, and we cannot relate to.

If he was fear of being alone, his victims would probably work towards staying as close to others as possible, wouldn't you think?. Though, you raise an interesting point with that; why would his victims isolate themselves? My first guess is that when they do reach out to those seeking help, they "infect" them (e.g. Damsel, possibly Alex Kralie.) Hysteria is contagious, after all. Thus, the victim realizes he/she is a danger to others and seeks to distance themselves for everyone else's safety. The victim might also believe that what they're seeing would be seen as symptoms of madness, and is trying desperately to prove to themselves that they are not mad by pursuing things alone. It's possible, though, that self-isolation is not a typical symptom, if we use the EMH guys as an example as they seem to be finding strength in working together.

Unwanted4Murder wrote:
In several of the original Slender Man posts on SA, he was described as leaving bodies impaled on sticks, and taking out organs, shoving them in plastic bags, then putting them back into peoples' dead bodies... so the part about not knowing whether he kills them or not isn't entirely true in all cases.


I vaguely recall this, but these are stories, yes? Ravings of perhaps the afflicted. Is there actual solid evidence of Slender Man actually being responsible for these acts?

I mean, Slender Modus Operandi is at the whim of the imagination of the masses, right? I personally would like to believe that these "leavings" are in fact the mad acts of the "afflicted," those that have lost themselves to the madness. People like totheark, perhaps. Again, personal preference, I am not directly contradicting the idea that Slender Man would do that. To me, those sound like the acts of a serial killer.

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You know what's funny? While reading through this post, I felt the urge to post "tl;dr Slenderman is humanities collective fear taken to physical form". Then I noticed you were going in the exact same direction as I was.

But to elaborate, I'd personally say, yes he is the embodiment of fear itself. But not to those who have not yet felt such fear. Not until one takes on the fear. Through the eyes of the brave and the sane, I'd go as much as to say he will never appear.

But why then does he appear on camera? Well that's the part of my theory where it becomes debunked, unless you wish to go as far as every Slenderman mythos based series plays on the audiences fear, and this alone being the reason he shows up on film. (weak argument, yes. But valid.)

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More than that

Slenderman hits more than just our fear of the unknown he's the perfect storm of constant human fears.
Think about what he's associated with Fire,Trees,children,sickness,dreams
all of his physical traits can be explained by these associations
Fire: his skeletal faceless contorted figure reminds one of a severe burn victim.
Trees:his height and thinness make him easily mistakable for a tree.
Children: Not only does he take them but with his tremendous height he makes us all feel small.
Sickness: again his slender frame makes him resemble a corpse or a victim of starvation.
Dreams:he's just the kind of surreal horror out of our worst nightmares
He's more than just different he's whatever we're afraid of.

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AxMxK wrote:
I vaguely recall this, but these are stories, yes? Ravings of perhaps the afflicted. Is there actual solid evidence of Slender Man actually being responsible for these acts?

I mean, Slender Modus Operandi is at the whim of the imagination of the masses, right? I personally would like to believe that these "leavings" are in fact the mad acts of the "afflicted," those that have lost themselves to the madness. People like totheark, perhaps. Again, personal preference, I am not directly contradicting the idea that Slender Man would do that. To me, those sound like the acts of a serial killer.


This story has a "factual" news report about it, which I would say is more than ramblings. There are multiple other stories in that thread as well.
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Re: More than that

Aperion wrote:
Slenderman hits more than just our fear of the unknown he's the perfect storm of constant human fears.
Think about what he's associated with Fire,Trees,children,sickness,dreams
all of his physical traits can be explained by these associations
Fire: his skeletal faceless contorted figure reminds one of a severe burn victim.
Trees:his height and thinness make him easily mistakable for a tree.
Children: Not only does he take them but with his tremendous height he makes us all feel small.
Sickness: again his slender frame makes him resemble a corpse or a victim of starvation.
Dreams:he's just the kind of surreal horror out of our worst nightmares
He's more than just different he's whatever we're afraid of.

To sum this up - The collective fear of mankind. At least it's how I word it.

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AxMxK wrote:
Unwanted4Murder wrote:
In several of the original Slender Man posts on SA, he was described as leaving bodies impaled on sticks, and taking out organs, shoving them in plastic bags, then putting them back into peoples' dead bodies... so the part about not knowing whether he kills them or not isn't entirely true in all cases.


I vaguely recall this, but these are stories, yes? Ravings of perhaps the afflicted. Is there actual solid evidence of Slender Man actually being responsible for these acts?

I mean, Slender Modus Operandi is at the whim of the imagination of the masses, right? I personally would like to believe that these "leavings" are in fact the mad acts of the "afflicted," those that have lost themselves to the madness. People like totheark, perhaps. Again, personal preference, I am not directly contradicting the idea that Slender Man would do that. To me, those sound like the acts of a serial killer.
They disappeared and then showed up skewered through a tree. I'd say that is sufficient evidence. Unless you are referring to photos of such conclusions. In which case, those exist as well.

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Re: More than that

The Count of Tuscany wrote:
Aperion wrote:
Slenderman hits more than just our fear of the unknown he's the perfect storm of constant human fears.
Think about what he's associated with Fire,Trees,children,sickness,dreams
all of his physical traits can be explained by these associations
Fire: his skeletal faceless contorted figure reminds one of a severe burn victim.
Trees:his height and thinness make him easily mistakable for a tree.
Children: Not only does he take them but with his tremendous height he makes us all feel small.
Sickness: again his slender frame makes him resemble a corpse or a victim of starvation.
Dreams:he's just the kind of surreal horror out of our worst nightmares
He's more than just different he's whatever we're afraid of.

To sum this up - The collective fear of mankind. At least it's how I word it.


Yeah but I'm pointing out it's kiinda cool that his apperances owes to all those fears and not just the unknown.

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Hmm... To address the whole bodies issue:

While some stories involve finding mutilated bodies of the victims, I personally prefer to run under the idea that we don't know what happens to them, as they disappear. Googling Slender Man, the first two links essentially say the same thing about the topic:

"Whether he absorbs, kills, or mearly takes his victims to an undiclosed location or dimension is also unknown as there are never any bodys or evidence left behind in his wake to deduce a definite conclusion."

And I personally run under this assumption; that there are no bodies left in his wake. Not to say that this is "official" or anything, but it appears to be popular belief?

HOWEVER if we DO assume that bodies are sometimes found, mutilated as such, I don't personally believe that Slender Man HIMSELF is responsible for the organic remains left in the way they are. I would like to think that certain individuals, driven mad from the fear and perhaps previous victims that have "disappeared" are doing these sadistic and serial killer-esque things, believing it might somehow appease Slender Man. Fear can make people do strange things.

I guess the reason I run under the first assumption is that I simply cannot picture Slender Man actually killing then disemboweling a person, then putting things in bags. It's easier for me to see an individual whose mind has broken under the fear (think of a mixture of a deranged Evan a totheark) killing a person, then bagging the organs, thinking it would somehow sate Slender Man.

I know that Slender Man lore is for the most part left up to the interpretation of the individual. So, out of curiosity, I ask you, do you believe he kills them and mutilates the bodies, or is he simply indirectly responsible for the victims vanishing from the face of the Earth?

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From a meta perspective, it makes sense that Slender Man would appear to be the embodiment of human fears, due to his existence as a collaborative work. Instead of just being based upon a single author's fears, he is based upon everyone's fears. Sometimes a new idea will be added on, and if most people find it scary enough, it will stick. On the other hand, occasionally something that only a few people find scary will be left out in most other stories, until it isn't used at all. Kinda like a natural selection for his abilities, where only the ones which the majority of people consider scary remain.

As for whether he actually tears apart the victims, I'd say he does. There are quite a few stories where the author actually sees Slendy physically attacking a person. Although there is no explanation right now for how he decides who he kills and who he has vanish.

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Would anyone like to offer their own personal theory behind Slender Man?

I've heard many, from inter-dimensional being, to "an idea brought to life through sheer belief."

TELL ME THEM.

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AxMxK, I will have to write this up more thoroughly when I have my book out to quote from, but if you have read Joseph Campbells 'Hero With 1000 Faces', the correlation between Slender Man and the Beyond/Other/Outside is a very strong one.

Campbell speaks initially of a duality between time/eternity, space/infinity, creation/destruction, conscious/unconscious, the latter of which is often a place from which spring all of our fears. In the monomyth, the hero must challenge a dragon (or an antagonist of some kind) in order to delve into this darkness, outsideness, other realm beyond our conception. Once there, he must past tests and increasingly more harrowing instances before he can achieve his goal. (In the monomyth, Campbell suggests that the goal is often a sacred marriage or an atonement with the father, both of which are chatter for making amendments and obtaining a prize.) Once he's managed to obtain his prize, the hero is then either guided by the benevolent creatures of this other place back to civilization, or in the case of the creatures being malignant, must take flight in order to escape them. The hero, on reaching civilization, takes this prized elixir to renew humanity.

While Slender Man is an embodiment of the gatekeeper to the depths of the unknown, I think that he's also a personification of this place. The destroyed basements and buildings that we see in many of the SM Mythos stories are very similar to the 'otherness' of the monomyth; I would argue also that SM is the ogre-father that Campbell speaks of an atonement. Many people have wondered why SM just stands around. Some have mentioned that it often seems that he's offering to hug those that he takes with him. He embodies an atonement with the father, who is also a terrifying monster.

The part where the SM Mythos diverges from the monomyth is the flight back to consciousness/civilization. As of yet, all of the characters that we see disappear somewhere in the stages of harrowing tests. They go crazy, they disappear and don't post again. 'The Ark' could be said to be the elixir which the hero must bring back to renew humanity, and it's not being found. There is a disconnect.

For whatever reason, the Slender Man is not only a force of the unknown/subconscious/eternity, he is a force that is blocking the renewal of of humanity. Instead of a parable or a happy ending, we're left instead with only a mystery.

Hurp durp TL;DR: Slondormons is half of the cosmogenic cycle and is kicking our asses in a way that stories haven't in the past. :I

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Dray wrote:
AxMxK, I will have to write this up more thoroughly when I have my book out to quote from, but if you have read Joseph Campbells 'Hero With 1000 Faces', the correlation between Slender Man and the Beyond/Other/Outside is a very strong one.

Campbell speaks initially of a duality between time/eternity, space/infinity, creation/destruction, conscious/unconscious, the latter of which is often a place from which spring all of our fears. In the monomyth, the hero must challenge a dragon (or an antagonist of some kind) in order to delve into this darkness, outsideness, other realm beyond our conception. Once there, he must past tests and increasingly more harrowing instances before he can achieve his goal. (In the monomyth, Campbell suggests that the goal is often a sacred marriage or an atonement with the father, both of which are chatter for making amendments and obtaining a prize.) Once he's managed to obtain his prize, the hero is then either guided by the benevolent creatures of this other place back to civilization, or in the case of the creatures being malignant, must take flight in order to escape them. The hero, on reaching civilization, takes this prized elixir to renew humanity.

While Slender Man is an embodiment of the gatekeeper to the depths of the unknown, I think that he's also a personification of this place. The destroyed basements and buildings that we see in many of the SM Mythos stories are very similar to the 'otherness' of the monomyth; I would argue also that SM is the ogre-father that Campbell speaks of an atonement. Many people have wondered why SM just stands around. Some have mentioned that it often seems that he's offering to hug those that he takes with him. He embodies an atonement with the father, who is also a terrifying monster.

The part where the SM Mythos diverges from the monomyth is the flight back to consciousness/civilization. As of yet, all of the characters that we see disappear somewhere in the stages of harrowing tests. They go crazy, they disappear and don't post again. 'The Ark' could be said to be the elixir which the hero must bring back to renew humanity, and it's not being found. There is a disconnect.

For whatever reason, the Slender Man is not only a force of the unknown/subconscious/eternity, he is a force that is blocking the renewal of of humanity. Instead of a parable or a happy ending, we're left instead with only a mystery.

Hurp durp TL;DR: Slondormons is half of the cosmogenic cycle and is kicking our asses in a way that stories haven't in the past. :I


A very interesting point, but I'd like to make a slightly idealistic reply to it:

If Slendy is half of the story and blocking us from obtaining the other half, notice what his actions cause. They cause more activity in attempting to force the "victory over the story" that we are used to, the conclusion if you will. You can see this in the growth of the myth and the plethora of new Slender stories and participants in those stories as this goes along.

In other words, by withholding the "conclusion" Slender has caused a rise in the reader exercise known as "thought" or "creativity" to combat this. This isn't necessarily a bad thing. And I really need to read Mr. Campbell's work.

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