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[OT] Geometric Answer prototype set For Sale.
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 		[OT] Geometric Answer prototype set For Sale.
Testing the waters.
This was originally the thread for the individual geometric answers.

But we want to ensure that the molds will last past 30 shots.

So we are seeing if someone is interested in buying the prototype set.

This purchase will help try to ensure that if one of the molds won't live past 30, we can have one remade.

I have designed an individual COA just for the prototype set. These would not be available til after the 30+ run is finished. These will be available when all sets are mailed out and all those that paid for theirs are securely in the possession of the buyer.

This is the COA and although it is not pictured, the "no" prototype will also be available.

I don't know if I will ever be a toy designer, but it is what I have wanted to do since I was a child. I plan on sending my portfolio to toy companies and hopefully one day I will be doing this for a living.

So let's say that I do have a fruitful career in toy design, you will own the prototype set for the first toys I ever designed.

Here is the prototype COA.





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 		prototypes
These are the prototypes. The colors are a little off from what the run will be like.

They are perfectly distinguishable as the prototypes since the colors are different than the official run.



I am thinking $150 for the set, or $60 for an individual one.

Also feel free to send offers, must be reasonable.

These once again are being sold to ensure we can replace a mold if something happens to it in the event of troubles during the run.

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 		rarity
If you are wondering what would be the advantage, think of this, while most (30+) people will have the actual set, you will be the only one to have this one of a kind set.

The only one to have the white/blue COA as opposed to the blue/white COA which will be more common.

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 		I may be in the minority about this; But, while I'm all for trading swag between fans, the dollar signs I'm seeing in more and more posts seem out of place on these fora. Maybe it really is all about the Benjamins and that's where we're headed as a group. I dunno. Just feels kinda wrong, given the past.
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given the past? what do you mean?

We are taking offers on these. But if all 30 sets sell, THEN we break even. We are literally making $0 on these. We are hoping with new members everyday, especially since mention of the forum from 42E that it would be necessary to do another 10.

We were told that the molds will survive 30, but there are no guarantees that they will last past 30+

These are simply being sold so we CAN possibly make 10 more.

What people don't understand is we could have had a nobody make the molds, but it was the most bizarre coincidence that Steve's roommate works at a toy company that could handle this professionally.

If we got the nobody's to do these cheap, there is no telling how they could have ended up. But it cost us $1200 alone for them to clean up the originals and make the molds themselves. That does NOT include the cost of making each set, which isn't that much less than we are selling each set for, and not to mention the cost of the prototypes.

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 		The past of this site as a place to collaborate and speculate on gameplay; Free of pitches. I'm not saying this kind of thing amounts to SPAM as it IS of interest to a significant percentage of this population. There was a time, not long ago when a thread or even a post offering something for a fee was really out of place. Now... Not so much. I guess I just kinda wish there was another site, somewhere, to handle the marketing.
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 		Me too.
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The past of this site as a place to collaborate and speculate on gameplay; Free of pitches. I'm not saying this kind of thing amounts to SPAM as it IS of interest to a significant percentage of this population. There was a time, not long ago when a post offering something for a fee was really out of place. Now... Not so much. I guess I just kinda wish there was another site, somewhere, to handle the marketing.


You have over 3000 more posts than I do, so you have been here for a while.

We are losing money on this and selling these prototypes does not even cover that.

If I were a millionaire, I would just do this without worry about profit. Me and Steve did not bite off more than we can chew, but we both figured out what it costs to do this type of thing.

Next time (or if) we get to do another set of prototypes we will know how to do it where we break even and don't have to do these types of things. But since Disney or any toy company wouldn't do this, we thought we were ballsy and brave to do this.

We thought it would be hard to sell 30 sets, but we want to do more so we are just trying to fill another 10.

We aren't sure that we will be able to do another run for sure, so we are just trying to do this all at once.

In order to cover one more mold to be made, we can either sell these, or fill another 5 orders, so we will see what happens first.

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 		That's the opinion of a guy with 3000+ posts, here's the opinion of a guy with a much smaller amount of posts who's been lurking for a long time. Why can't you just keep all your sales pitches in one thread? I love this forum because it keeps me 100% up to date with all the cool Flynn Lives ARG stuff, and I'm kind of sick of seeing so many threads about crap you're selling.

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Mr Viper wrote:
That's the opinion of a guy with 3000+ posts, here's the opinion of a guy with a much smaller amount of posts who's been lurking for a long time. Why can't you just keep all your sales pitches in one thread? I love this forum because it keeps me 100% up to date with all the cool Flynn Lives ARG stuff, and I'm kind of sick of seeing so many threads about crap you're selling.


This was a thread that took almost no hits and I just edited it. So there are only two threads of "crap" I am selling. I would post this in the regular thread but it would get lost pretty fast.

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 		I didn't mean to sound like I had an issue with you, ape. It was just the new thread which currently has
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[OT] Geometric Answer prototype set For Sale.
as a title suddenly appeared at the top of the board, so it seemed like a good place to mention something that's been bugging me for a while. I'd have no way of knowing whether it was a recycled previous post with no comments and it really doesn't matter if it's being repurposed or truly new. It seems like all this great swag comes with a lot of baggage. Or, maybe it's just that this game being based on such a collectible IP has attracted a different class of ARGer. The concept of freely-given PM-issued ARG swag for sale is going to take some getting used to (I have spent a couple of bucks here and there getting some small items). I've mailed some extra stuff I had out to folks but never charged anything and have received a few things from folks for free as well. Selling fan-made swag isn't something I'd ever be interested in, but I acknowledge there are some to whom it makes some kind of sense and I don't begrudge them that. I just wish the hawking was going on somewhere else.
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I didn't mean to sound like I had an issue with you, ape. It was just the new thread which currently has
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[OT] Geometric Answer prototype set For Sale.
as a title suddenly appeared at the top of the board, so it seemed like a good place to mention something that's been bugging me for a while. I'd have no way of knowing whether it was a recycled previous post with no comments and it really doesn't matter if it's being repurposed or truly new. It seems like all this great swag comes with a lot of baggage. Or, maybe it's just that this game being based on such a collectible IP has attracted a different class of ARGer. The concept of freely-given PM-issued ARG swag for sale is going to take some getting used to (I have spent a couple of bucks here and there getting some small items). I've mailed some extra stuff I had out to folks but never charged anything and have received a few things from folks for free as well. Selling fan-made swag isn't something I'd ever be interested in, but I acknowledge there are some to whom it makes some kind of sense and I don't begrudge them that. I just wish the hawking was going on somewhere else.


Ok then this is the last and final post of this. I promise, they are almost done and the worst you are going to see of this is just pictures of people posing with theirs. We aren't scumbags that just came on here to sell stuff to TRON fans, we ARE TRON fans.

THIS IS A RECYCLED POST, people had stated that they could not afford the full set so I thought I would start a thread for those that wanted to buy individual ones, it got a lot of hits, but no one bit at the opportunity, so I decided to switch it to try to sell the prototype set.

Sorry for the confusion.

And yes, I have done nothing but trade what extras I have except once where I immediately funneled the money back into this project.

Normally I am all about trading and have done nothing but. So I know where you are coming from and I apologize if this thread makes me sound otherwise.

It is not the peoples fault we are losing money on this it is ours, but I just want to make sure that if we do this again for any reason, that we don't hesitate due to our or MY past mistakes.

This ARG does have a lot of baggage, but for me it is worth it because next to Star Wars, TRON is the only reason I went into the field I did. I have spend well over a house earning my degrees in Animation and 3d modeling and don't regret a second of it because this is the reason I do what I do.

You also have to admit, this is probably the most swag intensive ARG that has ever been done. I won't be doing this for any other movie, so after this TRON trilogy is done, I will simply be replying to other posts and not creating any unless its just [OT] and related to the forum.

Some people will just come on here to trade what they have or for what they want and never come back, I plan on staying because I have made many good friends here and I enjoy the company of like minded nerds. Some people may not agree with what I am doing, some don't like it, and most don't care. But for those that do care, I appreciate it and we are just trying to make sure we don't get screwed in the end as well as those that participate.

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 		I'm just saying, this is a forum about an ARG, not a marketplace. Would you please quit spamming up the forum?

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 		Mr. Viper,
You are a rare breed of person. You know that the post is about something that you do not like. You know that the TWO threads about it are things you would not like. Yet instead of ignoring it and letting it sit for what it is, you decided to come in here and tell people that you take issue with it. You don't like something don't click on it. It is not that hard of a concept to grasp. Your over exaggerations do not help your case either. "Spamming the forums"! There are 2 threads about this that is it. If you want to complain about spamming the forums go jump on the people showing their collections of swag. That has nothing to do with the progress of the ARG. It is at this time that I would like to suggest to ass holes like you who know by clicking on a thread it is something you won't like to exit the thread stage left and continue using other features of the form.

Have a nice day

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 		First off:

Play Nice

Secondly, the topic of selling and trading of items via the forums has already been dealt with by the administration. If these particular items bother you, keep in mind that a full set of the original bits was awarded to a donor to uF for $500 - an amount set by uF, not the donors. Its not a sale per se, but if you take issue with this, you should've taken issue with that.

That time is now basically past, let it go.
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 		case and point
Euchre wrote:
First off:

Play Nice

Secondly, the topic of selling and trading of items via the forums has already been dealt with by the administration. If these particular items bother you, keep in mind that a full set of the original bits was awarded to a donor to uF for $500 - an amount set by uF, not the donors. Its not a sale per se, but if you take issue with this, you should've taken issue with that.

That time is now basically past, let it go.


That was the only reason we actually did this, is because I would have gone nuts to give $500 for that set if I had $500.

I didn't so we did this run and they just happen to be bigger and better, maybe that is the Texan in me. And instead of $500 we did it for $100.

So Mr. Viper, you may not like this concept, and that is fine by me. But if everyone else considered it spam, then we wouldn't have sold one set. We have sold just about 30, and 28 people have trusted with their hard earned money, so one out of 28 to the 40 people who said they were interested, is fine by my count. Seems standard for modern times.

Hell, Meatloaf only had 2 out of 3 odds, so I figure 1 out of 40 is better than that.

And dalamar is correct, if you don't like the post, skip it. And go to the thread you want. From now on if it makes it easier, just skip any thread started by me.

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