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Xeno Lambrose
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In the mid-70s I was working for one of the alphabet agencies and one of my assignments was to review security violations in (at the time) one of the gov't's largest labs.

The scientists/research employees were notorious for security violations, none when I worked there intentional, mostly forgetting to lock the door in the part of the lab where they were assigned, and sometimes leaving classified info in the open.

They were just so focused on their particular project(s) that they would get "distracted." Shocked

And when I worked there, being attired in a tie and white shirt was the closest equivalent to a uniform for these uber-intelligentsia. Cool

I believe on the badges we're stressing over, "research" = "scientist" and I would guess that possibly the triangular dot pattern (that we've yet to see) with the orientation like that of a pyramid would be ones in some command function/structure.

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simplicityjones
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Image ID first numbers

I did a little research on 1940"s air force ID's. Each Image starts with 2 digits. If they translate true, then 07 is for Special Investigations, 41= Health Service Admin Officer, 23= Supply Officer and a 42/43= Biomedical Service Officer.

Yeah these guys were egg heads. I'll keep trying to figure out the rest of the image Id code.

i also wanted to add the Nellis wasn't named Nellis until April 30th, 1950.

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Melodyman
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From the little holes at the top it would appear that these ID tags are the kind that hang around ones neck, like a pass, and these 4 guys probably were part of a secret team that were involved with whatever they were hiding and investigating at Nellis AFB.. It would seem that eventually their pictures were ripped off the face of the cards to erase any record of their existence.. Someone, whomever was responsible (the boss of the project perhaps) for some reason yet unknown, has written TROGL after the fact over where the picture of that person used to be.. He also seems to be a bit darker skinned than the others, but they all look like MIB with their suits and ties..
The ruler does seem to point to some investigation as these appear to be presented as pieces of evidence ... a bit bashed in and messed up from wherever they were found ..

Yet another clue that really dosent solve anything but rather increases the mystery..

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SeekerX
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I asked that colleague of mine with archaeological background and he explained me how they recorded the exact spots where they find things within a digging site for their catalogues. In short words, their "code" would look totally different to what these Image ID codes look like.
But he agreed that it looks like some sort of investigation-like protocol and the IDs could be a code containing valid information about where they were found.
Where or when. That was his idea. Pretty cool actually, I think Smile. I just told him this was part of a game that's going on on the internet and the players were confronted with these printouts without any further info. I didn't tell him about anything else. And he's definitely not a movie-geek. Well, he is a geek in some other ways, but still... he just said: "well, if you don't have any idea what these letters or numbers stand for then there is also the possibility that some of them stand for a date. And some others may contain info about what the "digging site or sites" are called." So he just threw up two new questions. Were these badges found on the same spot and at the same time?

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IncidentCloverfield
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I believe the STIES page is alot like the 1-18-08 site from Cloverfield, This will be the hub for clues given to us in which we figure out and they lead us elsewhere to new pages. Those ID cards, there's something there we need to figure out... I feel we will get an answer to the 3 dots and what these guys were doing...

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simplicityjones
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Image ID theory

I'm sticking to my theory that the Image Id 1st set of numbers refers to a department. I'm thinking the the 2nd set of letters refers to their names. Since a 23 was a supply officer, it could be that MHC is Mr. Minker Sr. Then that only leaves the last set of numbers. What are they?

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I made a note of what the responses were to each command with each file. Not counting the ones that we know work, half of them got Invalid Request and the other half got File Read Error. I'm guessing the File Read Error ones (A5RSR, A5RSR1, FATR7, FATR8 and GMRF71) would become active at some point so we'll need to keep an eye on them. The ID cards are possibly a clue to when?

Also, I thought TROGL might be roman numberals for a date or something but I looked it up and there are no roman numbers for T, R, O, G or L. Back to the drawing board...

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r.m
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58th Rescue Squadron

NOC14672 wrote:

Edit: I forgot to say that at Nellis Air Force Base there is a 58Th Rescue Squadron (the identification number at the badges start with 58 ), but from 1970 to 2002 that squadron was apparently disabled.


I've been thinking about this 58th Rescue Squadron. I did see where they were supposedly disabled for a period of time, but different websites gave different information on this. We don't know the timeframe for the Nellis AFB ID cards anyhow. The 58 fits with the ID numbers, the R and S fit with the RSO(A)(F)(O) file names. The RSO could be Rescue Squad Operations and the A, F, O could indicate the classification The 'facts' in the ARG are based in reality but don't have to be a perfect fit with facts in reality. The 58th Rescue Squadron was previously and currently again is a part of Nellis AFB under the 563rd Rescue Group. Maybe the Powers That Be decided to just go with it.
When they were shooting the movie here in WV, there was a rural set with military presence that I believe is to be part of the events following the train accident. This is a picture of a helicopter that was part of the scene. It is an Air Force Rescue helicopter.



This is a screenshot from a Nellis AFB Fact Sheet that describes the 58th Rescue Squadron at http://www.nellis.af.mil/library/factsheets/factsheet_print.asp?fsID=4102&page=1



This is a screenshot from an old document written by USAF Brigadier General Allison C. Brooks that describes Rescue Squadron space recovery operations at http://www.airpower.maxwell.af.mil/airchronicles/aureview/1967/may-jun/brooks.html#Brooks


Of course, I could be way off base with this, but there do seem to be enough coincidences to consider the possibilities of a 58th Rescue Squadron connection.

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r.m
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Another thought

Sorry about the double post, but in regards to my previous post...

The space recovery operations document discusses using tracking equipment used during spacecraft reentry that operates in both the UHF and "S" band spectrum and provides visual and audio tracking indications. I wonder if this audio tracking could be the sound in the braegen file. Maybe the four people who belong to the ID badges were part of a rescue or locate mission for a US spacecraft or UFO and went MIA during the operation. This could have happened earlier than the movie time during the 1960s. Josh Minker's dad is one of these guys who may have survived the mission fiasco and could be living somewhere with amnesia. Or maybe he was rescuing a female alien, fell in love and is living the life of a TROGL with her in some remote cave.

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Post Office

The bottom of the ID cards states to take any found IDs to a federal post office. Is there a chance that these were found and turned in and we should look for Post Office it was turned into?

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hockeyd44
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post office

Nellis will have their own post office on base. But that mail will have to come in from somewhere. Not assuming they were found on base, but that what ever post office they were turned in to had them mailed to the base. I'm guessing it would have to come through Las Vegas. It's already a hotbed for the area with McCarren airport's trips to Area 51. I'm guessing that wherever they were handed in, they went through Las Vegas. I'm just no sure how to check....

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simplicityjones
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Hi Rocket

Just curious if you think I was on the right or wrong track with the Image ID analysis I posted. No one has commented and I really wanted to know if what I figured out was of any value.

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Re: Image ID first numbers

simplicityjones wrote:
I did a little research on 1940"s air force ID's. Each Image starts with 2 digits. If they translate true, then 07 is for Special Investigations, 41= Health Service Admin Officer, 23= Supply Officer and a 42/43= Biomedical Service Officer.

Yeah these guys were egg heads. I'll keep trying to figure out the rest of the image Id code.

i also wanted to add the Nellis wasn't named Nellis until April 30th, 1950.
My birthday is on april 30th...

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kags
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hi everyone,
probably like some of you i thought trogl might be the initials of something,
i know it may seem a bit tenuous, but maybe the two end letters gl might stand for groom lake ?
tr could be testing range or training range, or maybe even the ranch ?
I thought i would throw it out there, ive tried looking on the net looking for connections, but to be honest im a bit rubbish at these games, i tend to just lurk !! Embarassed
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