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Deadboy619
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Well if they are sending the exact same number out then my mistake. That was the point me of bringing that up. Since in that respect I do agree - destroy it and let the number game go on. Ta duh! And second.. Damn right you should express your opinion.

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And I see no difference I some one wants to trade money for an item when the person with the item is looking for something that said trader doesn't have and could use this money to buy the item they do want. Since many upon many people don't have the exact item another person may want - but said item is online to buy. And if someone where to buy an item then trade for another item they wanted - whats the difference if someone trades their money for an item so that a person may buy the item they do want.

And I'm only bringing this up since people seem to be bitching about this situation in the first place. I you don't like people selling their own property then that great. You don't have to agree with it but don't bitxh at them for doing so - unless you seriously believe it's getting in the way of your own freedom.

Ita hard to express this without making others believe I don't think they have the right to be opinionated - this isnt what I mean to do.

Shit. Has much as I'm bitching. I guess I'm saying just let people barter the way they want to barter and both sides o this should just shut up...including me. Smile since we seem to be just going nowhere with it, and it's not literally hurting anyone when either way.


Now I so agree with that you shouldn't just sign people up to get another swag item and people should only sign up because thu are down with the FLARG!

In the end - all of us on this thread want the same thing .... Tonk ow what happened to Flynn (since apparently we don't know . Wink wink) and to get the same sweet swag on the way.

Long live args and no disrespect to anyone.

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42e are sending out replacement posters?? I'd be happy with any at all, I finished it within a few hours of going live and yet no poster Sad

Thought it could be because I'm in London, but there's a guy on here from the uk who got his last week *plays world's smallest violin*
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Busy person in retail that I am, I'm a bit late on some response.

I never suggested 'one per household', just wondered if 42E checks for obvious 'harvesters'. My point is that I don't like a greedy fan that screws others out of their fair opportunity, nor the disinterested 'dog in the manger' type that just gets the free stuff they could care less about so they can sell it. As for a fan that sells or trades their own poster earned fair and square, although I find it unlikely a really devoted fan would give up such a thing, I suppose there's nothing wrong with them doing so.

As for the question of destroying the posters, I think that is the choice of the person who got a replacement. They should not be chastised for it. I do think if the damaged original is going to be retained or preserved, its number ought to be defaced so it not be confused with the 'real' numbered item. If you are going to trade it, I think that should be especially true. Remember that if you trade away a doubled number poster, you are ruining the personal pride of exclusivity of quantity for everyone, as well as the exclusivity of your own number for yourself. I don't think you'd find a limited edition art print being redone to replace a damaged one, and if it was you can bet the artist would demand the damaged item be returned for destruction.

Lastly, in these debates stick to debating the topic, not berating the poster. Remember the rule: Play Nice.
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sowasred2012 wrote:
Thought it could be because I'm in London, but there's a guy on here from the uk who got his last week


Hi Red - have you tried calling ParcelForce Worldwide? They were the ones that delivered my poster. If you give them your name and address they can check to see if they have anything for you (and, more importantly, where it is!)

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confusion wrote:
Deadboy619 wrote:
I don't understand about it being wrong about giving a creased poster away (I can see if you give a shit for selling one - rather I agree with it or not) bit giving it away? Why destroy it? Then you destroy one of 999 and not only mess up he numbering but mess up the chance for one more person who could have had the one you needed replaced. All the while you get two in the end all because you had have one without a tiny crease an then destroy the first one so no one may enjoy it. If you don't want someone having the "messed up" poster and you would rather destroy and get a new one. Well....maybe You are the greedy one. And maybe you should have kept your first one and dealt with it so that 900thish person could have had theirs. It would be awesome just to get a poster period.


Oh and its crazy here in the states....once you own something you can do what ever you want with it....freedom...crazy.



Of course if they actually replaced the exact number you had in the first place...then yes you should destroy it in the name of keeping 999 and not 999 and an extra 105 (or whatever number it may be)


Isn't 42 Entertainment doing exactly that? Replacing the damaged poster with the SAME number? If you don't destroy it, you'll have two of the same #. How on earth does it make sense to have 1,000 posters, when there should only be 999?! That is messed up.

Also, IGNORANCE was asking a question, soliciting responses. The last time I checked another nutty thing we can do in the states is express our opinion, even if it is contrary to yours. Nutty, but true!


Yes. 42E replaced my damaged #105 with a new #105. By the laws of time travel those two can't coexist in the same place together or it will cause a paradox–or worse, a rip in the fabric of the space-time continuum. I killed the damaged #105 to save us all.

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payote wrote:
confusion wrote:
Deadboy619 wrote:
I don't understand about it being wrong about giving a creased poster away (I can see if you give a shit for selling one - rather I agree with it or not) bit giving it away? Why destroy it? Then you destroy one of 999 and not only mess up he numbering but mess up the chance for one more person who could have had the one you needed replaced. All the while you get two in the end all because you had have one without a tiny crease an then destroy the first one so no one may enjoy it. If you don't want someone having the "messed up" poster and you would rather destroy and get a new one. Well....maybe You are the greedy one. And maybe you should have kept your first one and dealt with it so that 900thish person could have had theirs. It would be awesome just to get a poster period.


Oh and its crazy here in the states....once you own something you can do what ever you want with it....freedom...crazy.



Of course if they actually replaced the exact number you had in the first place...then yes you should destroy it in the name of keeping 999 and not 999 and an extra 105 (or whatever number it may be)


Isn't 42 Entertainment doing exactly that? Replacing the damaged poster with the SAME number? If you don't destroy it, you'll have two of the same #. How on earth does it make sense to have 1,000 posters, when there should only be 999?! That is messed up.

Also, IGNORANCE was asking a question, soliciting responses. The last time I checked another nutty thing we can do in the states is express our opinion, even if it is contrary to yours. Nutty, but true!


Yes. 42E replaced my damaged #105 with a new #105. By the laws of time travel those two can't coexist in the same place together or it will cause a paradox–or worse, a rip in the fabric of the space-time continuum. I killed the damaged #105 to save us all.


Thanks for preventing the annihilation of the world as we know it. Also, thanks for confirming that 42 Entertainment is indeed replacing damaged posters with a new poster with the same #.

Did you have to provide the # of your poster to 42 Entertainment or did they already know?

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confusion wrote:
Thanks for preventing the annihilation of the world as we know it. Also, thanks for confirming that 42 Entertainment is indeed replacing damaged posters with a new poster with the same #.

Did you have to provide the # of your poster to 42 Entertainment or did they already know?
Ahh, I forgot to mention this when I got my replacement, the excitement was overwhelming lol. They did give the same number. In my case, I didn't report the damage to 42 Entertainment directly, I just posted about it here. I'm assuming they already knew what number every person was getting, so they just had to look at their list
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Just got poster #932 today. I believe I finished sometime in the AM of 10/24. Definitely did not complete it before 10/24. Good condition. I'm stoked! Very Happy

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huh, I wonder if it depends on how you reacted to your poster. Mine was creased as well, and nothing. Maybe I should ask?

As for the old, creased posters, it wouldn't take much to draw a silver-marker line through the number, or write "replacement" or something on it, then trade it away. That way people can still have something they love without it being considered one of the 999.

That said, the people that own them have every right to do what they want with them.

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mine has 2 marks should i have complained since i got number 030? D: its framed already but i diddent want to cause a fuss so yeah...its just in 2 areas and kinda small but a noticeable i mentioned it to my bro and he said i should be happy i got one which i am.

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CalebH2010 wrote:
Ahh, I forgot to mention this when I got my replacement, the excitement was overwhelming lol. They did give the same number. In my case, I didn't report the damage to 42 Entertainment directly, I just posted about it here. I'm assuming they already knew what number every person was getting, so they just had to look at their list
Those people are doing an amazing and loving job over there. Great choice by Disney.

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tyler123456 wrote:
sowasred2012 wrote:
Thought it could be because I'm in London, but there's a guy on here from the uk who got his last week


Hi Red - have you tried calling ParcelForce Worldwide? They were the ones that delivered my poster. If you give them your name and address they can check to see if they have anything for you (and, more importantly, where it is!)


Good thinking. Called them earlier but couldn't find my way through the jungle that is their automated system, hoping the email I sent gets through...
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The numbered thing is interesting subject... I'm torn; though I do agree that owners have the right to do whatever they want with what they own.
But at the same time, in this case, being a numbered limited series, it's not just an item independently owned by the individual. The identifier ties the entire series together, indirectly including the other owners' items.

In a sense, if one person sells or trades the duplicate, then how, ultimately, does anyone (apart from the owners themselves) know that the item number they're looking at is in fact legitimate and one of a kind? If now a friend sees my #3, how do they know it's the legitimate #3 if they know duplicates have been traded or sold? It's now my (or any owners') word that has to speak for itself, rather than the actual number written in the corner. The value in a limited run collectible number is knowing that it is unique and legitimate and one of a kind.

I dunno. Unless something is added to the traded/sold duplicate (like a written 'duplicate' label on the back or something) to indicate that it's not the #XXX/999, I just might have to side with those who value the collectible nature of limited, numbered items.

Now, if one has a poster without a number, then by all means, sell/trade/whatever to your heart's desire =)
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I just might have to side with those who value the collectible nature of limited, numbered items.


It's not the item that is numbered, it the user who complete it. I don't see a value to those numbered items, except to the fact that it identify myself along the others. I could get a new ID cart with the same number if I damage it.

I'm #228 of #999, pleased to meet you.

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