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[VIDEO] Entry #27
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zbeeblebrox wrote:


That's pretty much the core philosophy of the whole series, really


I lol'd xD

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Milkdudds92 wrote:
Spritey wrote:
Milkdudds92 wrote:
Here's a question I have...is it canon every time that somebody logs on to the MH YouTube channel? I'd like to think so, considering that it's still been 9 months since anyone signed into the ToTheArk account. But Jay (Or somebody that knows the password) has been logging in pretty regularly. How does that fit in with the whole 7 months forgotten thing?


It's not necessarily canon. It just helps us to tell when a new entry is being posted.


Yeah, but he's been logging in about once a week or so since Entry 26, and we haven't seen anything until now.


Not every week. I've checked.

I can't think of a reason they'd have to log on other than posting an entry, though.

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Hi, new to the forums, but not to MH. Just wanted to point out that it has been established then whenever Slendy shows up there is visual tearing or audio distortion. Didn't notice any of this in entry 27. Just my 2 cents.

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Regardless of whether channel log-ins are in-universe, it's fairly likely from past experience that Jay has been very busy during his spate of lost time. Doing what, nobody knows. Perhaps we will find out soon.

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Probably a cannon. Or maybe J is jus surfin youtube?

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Slenderman is not in this episode; people just want to see him so badly that they're fooling themselves.

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JKatkina wrote:
In other news, I wonder if the fisheye camera effect has something to do with the shot of the Skully mask waaay back in Entry #26? That had a fisheye effect on it too. Maybe taken by the same kind of camera? (Which would be really...weird, actually.)


Woaaaah, mind... blown! If that's the case, then that camera probably belonged to someone other than Jay to begin with, which means that he had to get it from them somehow...

O_O That'd be a lot of foresight!
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1)Jay is wearing a dark brown hoody. Masky apparently is also wearing a brown hoody.


I was thinking this, too. They seem to make such a point of showing of Masky's sideburns, and with the hood up, we definitely couldn't go side-of-face analyzing! Hoodie-analyzing-ward, instead!

blahblah wrote:
Ehh its weird but at this point you really cant tell. For J to lose 7 months of memory means that slendereffects have had him hard now. He may have taken up this "practice" persay of using the mask? There is really anythings that can happen due to this.


Note that Tim says that he doesn't know anything about the weirdness of the MH filming though we're pretty sure he's TTA. Could be that Jay's under the same influence... which seems to point to TTA being a Slender!minion, and that Jay might be on the same path.

suttin wrote:
From entry 26, we know that Jay has been hotel hopping for a while. He also says his memory is better while doing this.

Then, he gets a package, so someone knows where he has been this whole time.

So, some one knows where he has been up to the end of entry 26, and his memory has gotten worse between the two.

Also, Jay has a return address from the package he received, and stated that he was going to that address.


Guessing that Jay was doing well up until heading towards that address. At that point, he was probably caught up in SHENANIGANS which proceeded to hard-boot his brain seven months later. Probably just the point that we'll find out what happened over X number of entries for part 1 of the story arc or someut.

Sachael wrote:
Speaking of the past 7 months, why exactly can't Jay remember any of it? Assuming it's because he was being controlled, who was controlling him? TTA? Why make him drive around and stay in a motel? Why wake him up now?


Jay can't remember any of it because control was taken away from him; either TTA brain-wiped him because he screwed up with whatever he was supposed to be doing, or he has finished being useful for the time being.

I think that the driving around was stuff that Jay filmed after he woke up, not before, so this could just be the denouement that we're witnessing first off.

Mops wrote:
Jay is clearly, CLEARLY withholding some things here that are potentially important. One, did he check the tape in the camera that was strapped to him?


He's probably doing that right about now, IC.

Mops wrote:
Two, he says he checked with the front desk to find out how long the room was booked. But he doesn't say if it was himself who checked in.


He may not have thought to ask. It may not be something he expected to be an issue. (aka, what JKat said.)

Moon wrote:
Pretty much the same style as last season. So, still brix shatting, provided that a) Jay has been recording for seven months (in full consciousness or not), b) that he magically knows where all the seven months worth of tapes are, and c) that he still has access to them. If they exist in the first place.


REVELATION: Jay gave all of his tapes to Alex to burn. 8D

Mops wrote:
Yeah, I have a feeling the next entry might be some footage from the past seven months Jay can't remember. Clearly he's been recording himself, there's gotta be SOME footage.


Aaand here's where TTA has most of the missing footage, I'm sure. XD "Lol, watched you act liek a mowron. T'was quite a hoot akshully. Let me upload them to youtube so that others can laugh at you also."

Milkdudds92 wrote:
Here's a question I have...is it canon every time that somebody logs on to the MH YouTube channel? I'd like to think so, considering that it's still been 9 months since anyone signed into the ToTheArk account. But Jay (Or somebody that knows the password) has been logging in pretty regularly. How does that fit in with the whole 7 months forgotten thing?


Interesting theory! I had thought that in between Part 1 and Part 2 they would have waived that, but I can see how that'd fit in! Cool!

Spritey wrote:
I can't think of a reason they'd have to log on other than posting an entry, though.


It could have something to do with reading comments that had been sent to their inbox, OOG! Smile

Phawks wrote:
Hi, new to the forums, but not to MH. Just wanted to point out that it has been established then whenever Slendy shows up there is visual tearing or audio distortion. Didn't notice any of this in entry 27. Just my 2 cents.


Not 100% of the time, however I think that we'd have more indication than an ominous potted plant to determine if the Operator were in the shot!





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OMFG I'm caught up now!? *tears of joy*

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Spritey wrote:
Slenderman is not in this episode; people just want to see him so badly that they're fooling themselves.


Agreed...I think we've analyzed all we can analyze. We have as much of a chance as getting something new out of "Introduction." All we can do is predict what will come next...

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Ah! Another thing just popped into my mind- Jay received a text telling the date (41810) he would obtain a package.
His twitpic told the date he would next update.

Perhaps just another way to keep us involved, but maybe it can be something more?

(obviously I'm pulling from the air now. there isn't much we can pick apart at this point)

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It is apparent that during the 7 months Jay ran into Operator again. Whether this was due to the tape being sent to him as a trap, or whether a natural consequence of him trying to track down Alex is unknown.

Jay ran away. Apparently, he stopped filming himself as well. Then he received a tape with an odd cry for help. Odd in that at the end of the tape it had HELP with an Operator symbol and a cut. This makes me think it more likely it was a trap.

It seems that the more contact one has with Operator, the worse one's memory gets. Jay, Alex, and Tim have shown rather large gaps in memory. The strap camera implies he was having trouble remembering things. Being in a hotel room that was rented out for 1 night implies that Jay was on the run. Maybe due to remembering that his memory improved last time he fled.

Since he had 2 cameras, he probably stored the information on his computer for later review.

The first twitter picture "Smile for the Camera" had two operator symbols. This could be referring to the two cameras seen here. Although that is a bit of a stretch.

Well, that's enough rambling for tonight, I will give the video a proper analysis tomorrow.

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Re: logging in canon: Would they need to do something like check messages/clean out a YouTube inbox? I don't know, I've never dealt with YouTube messages, but it'd stand to reason that OOG they'd need to clear out their inbox regularly, with all the attention MH gets.

Anyways...

This isn't the first time Jay's lost a significant amount of time. That's relevant.

The first time (that we know of) was during the filming of Marble Hornets. Obviously he didn't lose seven months' worth, since he remembers the film at all, but he lost enough that he doesn't remember specific events, as shown when he views the footage of himself that he doesn't remember.

How does this tie in? Thoughts?

I wonder if he did find Alex, and with him the Operator, and epic things happened and Jay got away with his camera and his life... but not his memories? Maybe just being near Alex has something to do with the memory loss. Maybe he wasn't a slenderpuppet, just a slendervictim. I don't know. I'm just throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks.

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I really like the idea of Jay looking through the past 7 months' footage and finding epic Slendybattles featuring him and Alex.

Just because he can't remember anything doesn't mean nothing happened; in fact, it seems quite the opposite. He DID find a return address on that box, so I doubt he just kept running away.

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Dray wrote:


Mops wrote:
Yeah, I have a feeling the next entry might be some footage from the past seven months Jay can't remember. Clearly he's been recording himself, there's gotta be SOME footage.


Aaand here's where TTA has most of the missing footage, I'm sure. XD "Lol, watched you act liek a mowron. T'was quite a hoot akshully. Let me upload them to youtube so that others can laugh at you also."


You realize, Dray, that I will never stop imaging TTA as an adorable kitty now.

Still, yeah. TTA, Jay, whoever, next upload is going to be mindblowing, I feel it in my knees. Also I sort of miss TTA and all his wacky antics. And actual physical Masky, too. JAY NEEDS TO BE IN IMMEDIATE DANGER AGAIN, that's always fun.

JKatkina wrote:

Re: logging in canon: Would they need to do something like check messages/clean out a YouTube inbox? I don't know, I've never dealt with YouTube messages, but it'd stand to reason that OOG they'd need to clear out their inbox regularly, with all the attention MH gets.

Anyways...

This isn't the first time Jay's lost a significant amount of time. That's relevant.

The first time (that we know of) was during the filming of Marble Hornets. Obviously he didn't lose seven months' worth, since he remembers the film at all, but he lost enough that he doesn't remember specific events, as shown when he views the footage of himself that he doesn't remember.

How does this tie in? Thoughts?

I wonder if he did find Alex, and with him the Operator, and epic things happened and Jay got away with his camera and his life... but not his memories? Maybe just being near Alex has something to do with the memory loss. Maybe he wasn't a slenderpuppet, just a slendervictim. I don't know. I'm just throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks.


That'd be sort of really awesome. Amazing, mind-boggling shit went down in the Slendylair/basement/bath house/whatever and for once, nobody recorded it. Maybe epic things went down at Alex's house and Slender mindwiped them all again. (Or, TTA has the footage and will be uploading that shortly, hopefully.)

Oooh, but that just makes me worried for Alex (and his GF now, too) all over again. What's he been doing for the last seven months?

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JKatkina wrote:
Re: logging in canon: Would they need to do something like check messages/clean out a YouTube inbox? I don't know, I've never dealt with YouTube messages, but it'd stand to reason that OOG they'd need to clear out their inbox regularly, with all the attention MH gets.

Anyways...

This isn't the first time Jay's lost a significant amount of time. That's relevant.

The first time (that we know of) was during the filming of Marble Hornets. Obviously he didn't lose seven months' worth, since he remembers the film at all, but he lost enough that he doesn't remember specific events, as shown when he views the footage of himself that he doesn't remember.

How does this tie in? Thoughts?

I wonder if he did find Alex, and with him the Operator, and epic things happened and Jay got away with his camera and his life... but not his memories? Maybe just being near Alex has something to do with the memory loss. Maybe he wasn't a slenderpuppet, just a slendervictim. I don't know. I'm just throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks.


I think that last part is really plausible. It would be a nice way to pick up right where 26 left of while giving the creators a way to explain the 7 month hiatus.

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Makdee wrote:
The first twitter picture "Smile for the Camera" had two operator symbols. This could be referring to the two cameras seen here. Although that is a bit of a stretch.


Thanks for reminding us about the strange not-quite-operator symbol. Do you remember in Warning, when we see bubble-shapes on a white-board, and they are slowly being crossed out so that they look like Operator symbols? Feels like this most recent one is similar... but like an egg with two yolks in it, really weird. It could be that Jay split something in his brain (ha ha, can't stop thinking Fight Club now XD) to wake himself up out of it? (Crazy theory time, I know!)

JKatkina wrote:
Re: logging in canon: Would they need to do something like check messages/clean out a YouTube inbox? I don't know, I've never dealt with YouTube messages, but it'd stand to reason that OOG they'd need to clear out their inbox regularly, with all the attention MH gets.


Cleaning out messages, I think possibly also to read the longer messages? (Though I can't be sure, I've only ever had short messages or comments from my youtube account!)

It doesn't seem like it would make much sense that Jay would be checking the channel while he was gone, though, I admit.

JKatkina wrote:
The first time (that we know of) was during the filming of Marble Hornets. Obviously he didn't lose seven months' worth, since he remembers the film at all, but he lost enough that he doesn't remember specific events, as shown when he views the footage of himself that he doesn't remember.

How does this tie in? Thoughts?


Honestly, I have always thought that this leant credence to Jay being a bad!guy when he can't remember, sort of a minion (part of why Alex gets so freaking mad and paranoid, and willing to give Jay the tapes in the end. XD) Feels to me like, narratively, having the biggest woobie be the biggest ass in the reveal would be more satisfying than seeing Jay be woobie-woobie-woobie-slendervictim-woooooobiiiiiie for another entire season. (though if they're going to have another season after this, I dunno, holding onto that card might just be worth it if they don't overblow his woobie state!)

Guessing that he found Alex, attempted finding the ark, and either succeeded and has returned with the elixir (if only he can remember... ha ha!) or else he effed up and we're going for try number two this season.

Spritey wrote:
Just because he can't remember anything doesn't mean nothing happened; in fact, it seems quite the opposite. He DID find a return address on that box, so I doubt he just kept running away.


Exactly. We're getting a reverse beginning-to-end story, here. We're seeing the aftermath first, and then we'll peel the layers back. Makes pretty good sense to me!

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Also I sort of miss TTA and all his wacky antics. And actual physical Masky, too. JAY NEEDS TO BE IN IMMEDIATE DANGER AGAIN, that's always fun.


Hmm, I think this will come up again. If nothing else, in #23 it seems as though Jay refused that mask. I think that will come up again, and for that to come up again, we'll probably be seeing us some Masky. Smile

I'm still wondering if TTA will have abandoned his channel altogether. It will be interesting if they don't utilize it again; Jay will probably have enough footage of his own to carry this for a while. Unless he decides that he doesn't want to go through with all of this, he's probably not going to need nudges from our freaky be-'burned antagoinst!

Mops wrote:
That'd be sort of really awesome. Amazing, mind-boggling shit went down in the Slendylair/basement/bath house/whatever and for once, nobody recorded it. Maybe epic things went down at Alex's house and Slender mindwiped them all again. (Or, TTA has the footage and will be uploading that shortly, hopefully.)


Oh, damnit, don't give them ideas. That would be the most frustrating thing to not-watch ever. Epic stand-off that cuts out before anything actually happens? I can see that being something we'd actually get teased with. Sad

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