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Taladan
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Puzzling

Ah, glad you replied, was thinking about this all day as I went about my work, and I've been anxious about it. Nigel mentions that 'you'll need a tool' to find him, and the cat's name is 'Sparky'. I've looked at that image 16 different ways to sunday and while I'm /sure/ that there is something in the right eye of the cat that looks like text, it is too pixellated to be able to discern. I'm not going to muddy the waters with what I think it is, but if there's something hidden in the picture that would obviously be the tool he's talking about.

On a second note as some animal lovers call their pets by their own last name, 'Sparky' Hemingway is a fictitious character in a novel by Joel Rosenberg (http://tinyurl.com/23mu8sa) most notably the character's name is "Ernest 'Sparky' Hemingway (no relation)" is how the description reads. Oddly similar to how Nigel introduces himself at the top of his twitter page. I'm not sure it has any connection, but I found it largely intriguing that he'd obliquely name his cat after a character in an unrelated book. Perhaps it's just a coincidence. This is the part where I always stumble...attaching significance to something that may be totally unrelated IG.


Tal

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Re: Puzzling

Taladan wrote:
This is the part where I always stumble...attaching significance to something that may be totally unrelated IG.

Hooray for pattern recognition! The brain finds patterns... even if they don't exist. It's always a problem.

The interesting thing about the cipher is that the correct first letters were in the original, which is a bit weird. I didn't think anything of it at the time, though booba mentions it. Sort of. But I can't make anything out of either version. No rots, anagrams, nothin. But hey, I frequently overlook stuff. Like Welsh. It would be awesomely elegant if there were something there.
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Re: Puzzling

Taladan wrote:
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This is the part where I always stumble...attaching significance to something that may be totally unrelated IG.


Tal


<g> You never know what little comment however unrelated it might seem, that sparks an idea in someone else that brings a solve. That is the beauty of this community, that by working together and disscussing we are more than a sum of our parts.
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Taladan
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cat's eye

alright, I'm probably wrong, but I can't help but keep thinking that there's something there in that cat's eye. I've taken and fooled with it in Gimp a little bit to try and figure out what it is, - scaled the pic up and changed the levels until the 'writing' stood out a bit, but all I can see is a 'T' and then some illegible stuff. I'm gonna post this up so maybe someone else will have an idea.


ETA:

It looks more and more like 'Tip 4' to me as I read it. Going back to Nigel, his fourth tweet is:

hollowasthewind Nigel Hemingway
Finally contact from the shadow guy. Weird. Some poem about "the eye begins to see" Meeting my shadow. And my echo.

I don't know if this is coincidental or not but I think we need to find that poem and try and maybe discern a location from that. Or maybe I'm just seeing things again and tying in too much that is coincidental and letting my brain see patterns that aren't there.

Tal

ETA2: It's a poem by Theodore Roethke:

In a Dark Time
In a dark time, the eye begins to see,
I meet my shadow in the deepening shade;
I hear my echo in the echoing wood--
A lord of nature weeping to a tree,
I live between the heron and the wren,
Beasts of the hill and serpents of the den.
What's madness but nobility of soul
At odds with circumstance? The day's on fire!
I know the purity of pure despair,
My shadow pinned against a sweating wall,
That place among the rocks--is it a cave,
Or winding path? The edge is what I have.
A steady storm of correspondences!
A night flowing with birds, a ragged moon,
And in broad day the midnight come again!
A man goes far to find out what he is--
Death of the self in a long, tearless night,
All natural shapes blazing unnatural light.
Dark,dark my light, and darker my desire.
My soul, like some heat-maddened summer fly,
Keeps buzzing at the sill. Which I is I?
A fallen man, I climb out of my fear.
The mind enters itself, and God the mind,
And one is One, free in the tearing wind.


I'll let you guys tear this apart in more detail, I have to hit the road to get to the church cantata!

Laters Wink

Tal
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Cyng and husband saw the word "happy" in the eye on the right - look near the bottom of the eye. All I can see is a letter that could be an 'a' or an 'o' and the letters 'py' - my vision isn't the best - I'll be needing to get a new prescription for glasses when my next yearly exam come up.

We have been told that the cat's name is "Sparky" by Nigel.

If there is information stegged in the photo, we can't get at it without the password (you can download the camoflage program from somewhere here on UF if you need a free tool for this).

As I said earlier, we still have a couple unsolved puzzles from within other puzzles.

Unfortunately, as we have been given words from Welsh, latin, french, spanish (or Portugese), we don't know if we should limit ourselves to one language or all of them, and the password could be a proper name and not just a word from one of those languages.

ETA: Someone mentioned nicknames that the cat was Ernest "Sparky" Hemingway...
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_are_Ernest_Hemingway's_nicknames

Quote:

Earnest Hemingway had several nicknames of which "Papa" was the name he was best known by. The nickname "Papa" was given to him by his children as was the nickname of "Bumby". As a youngster Hemingway was given the nickname of "Oinbones" by his sister. In high school Hemingway gave himself the nickname of "Hemingstein". Then later because of his love of boxing and the outdoors he was known as "Champ".
Hemingway's first wife Hadley and his son by Hadley used the nicknames of "Ernestoic", "Tattie", "Tiny", and "Wax Puppy". In some other circles Hemingway was known as "Wemedge", however, the most common nicknames he was known by were "Ernie", "Hem", and "Hemmy".


•The above information came from the following website:
http://www.timelesshemingway.com/faq/faq1.shtml



So, maybe puppy?
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Re In a dark time: There's one Google search location, The Inversnaid Hotel in Scotland, with a professional photo LINK
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 6:15 pm
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Taladan
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eye

alright, I've been banging my head against this cat image now for a while and all I can say is this feels like a Captcha from hell. I got nothing on this. I feel like there's /something/ there, but with the pixelization I can't pick it up. Maybe someone with PS and better skills at enhancing an image than me can dig it out.

Tal

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man....bummed out there was no solve on this yet Sad

yeah, me hubby and me agreed it could be happy...but we also argued that it might be hope, mp4, and a dozen more possible words....it's just frankly too pixelated

yeah, i feel your pain magesteff...i'm not a puzzle cracker either...and unfortunately no hardcore puzzle crackers have seemed to jump on board on this one... Sad

thanks for all your work taladan! it's always great to get a new fresh take

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Just got this from Shadow:

Quote:
See what your precious D is capable of.

So now I ask: Va a buscarlo ahora?


"See" was hyperlinked to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSM4jkqUOEw

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Taladan
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The description of the video is:
Quote:
Worse and worse! Can't you stand it? Are you retreating?
Is this hour with the living too dead for you?

Retreat then! Pell-mell!
To your graves! Back! back to the hills, old limpers!
I do not think you belong here, anyhow.


This is excerpted from Walt Whitman's 'A Boston Ballad'

http://www.bartleby.com/142/99.html

A thought occurs...maybe there's a numeric code here. Can someone collect all the referenced poems here and list out the stanzas that are quoted? It's possible that there's something deeper into this - could be a load of hogwash, but it just occurred to me that might be the case.

Google translator suggests that Va a buscarlo ahora? = Will look now?

Tal

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'Va a buscarlo ahora' = 'Going to look for it now?'

It's a little clunky, and the person/number is a little irregular, as it suggests a third person or object ('he is going etc') but I'm guessing that's probably what was meant.

I also took a look at the cat picture last night in le Photoshoppe but I really couldn't make anything out. As for steganography, maybe now PMs will take it seriously when they read about how steganography is becoming almost impossible to detect. I'll get back to you if/when I figure out how to install stegdetect.

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So Patrick died playing World of Warcraft? I am trying to determine COD but other than "too much raiding" I'm coming up empty. Smile

/ETA:

New clue about the whereabouts:

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
To find me look for the Eagle. The number is 9 ^ 3 and 3 ^ 5. The square root of 28561 plus 14

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Taladan
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729 243 183


doesn't look like a phone number, it's not a zip code. converting 729243183 to octal comes up with 05335657057 which if you drop the 0 on front it looks like a legit phone number, but when I attempted to call it, got a 'Can not connect this call' message. Not sure how this ties in with 'Look for the eagle'. Maybe coordinates of some kind?

ETA: I believe Tu deinde is a rough latin for 'You're next' or 'You next'. Obviously referring back to SMSF's statement that Nigel was #2 on the list. Apparently Logan is some sort of black widow maybe?

Tal

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Howdy folks. Longtime UF lurker here, emerging from the darkness. Primarily following the newly-revived MH ARG, but this one also caught my eye - mostly because of its trailhead. Some friends and I were talking not long ago about writing an ARG, and one of us had the idea, "wouldn't it be neat if we emailed a bunch of really good but long-time-inactive forumites to start things off?" So it seems our idea is not as original as we thought. It is still cool though - kudos to the PM, and double to you oldbies who willfully took the bait!

Anyway, nothing to add atm - he emailed you guys, not me - but I'll be watching with interest!

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The types of numbers I see most often that have 9 total digits are US postal zip codes (with the extra 4 at the end xxxxx-xxxx) and US social security numbers (xxx-xx-xxxx). But neither of those ideas are seeming to lead anywhere so far in my hunt online. Maybe someone else will have more luck.

If it matters, all three of those numbers are multiples of 3 (729=3^6, 243=3^5, and 183=3x61)

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