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Sachael wrote:


I was hoping they wouldn't make the same mistake again, or at least not right away, but they appear to be doing so, and the longer it goes on the more distracting it gets from what is supposed to be the focus of the story. Marble Hornets' most phantasmal element is no longer The Operator, ToTheArk, or the circumstances surrounding them - but Jay's income!



For all we know Jay had a job during the last seven months and just doesn't remember. (Slendies real endgame is to create an army of slaves to open his own chain of family style restaurants)

On a more serious note, I do find it odd that he hasn't mentioned anything about Alex or last season, although at the moment I can understand he has bigger concerns.


Also with new girl, she seemed to have a purpose in awkwardly chatting with Jay about his camera - when I saw it I thought it was a total shoutout to all of us who saw her in the last video, like "hey its her againg", "oh snap she's part of the story!". Seems weird that she has nightsound problems of an unspecified nature and is staying in the same hotel as Jay for weeks on end, unless it happens to be the Hotel California.

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 		I take it all back. This is EXACTLY what I wanted out of the last entry, as a video shot. It's almost as if they can...read my mind... Shocked

On a more serious note, I want to get a better look at the Hotel Staff. I'm getting a "Hotel California" vibe from the empty halls and inquisitive-yet-attractive female passer-by.

Sidebar: The description made me laugh, just because it's very similar to the title of another Slender-blog I follow. Almost certainly unrelated, but it would be amusing to me if it was a reference.

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lifegospel wrote:
But I have to tell you, writer-to-writer, we're not loving the fact that we have to wait 2-3 weeks between each new entry, now, I understand that you have other commitments, but a regular twitter update or something would help keep players happy without ruining the immersion.
Heck, a tweet a day would take 5 minutes to do, tops, more likely 1 minute on average. Nobody in the world is so busy that they can't manage that.

I know MH is more of a non-interactive story than a true ARG, that's cool, but the sheer extent to which the IG information sources are distanced from the audience is maddening. Compared with EMH - or, better comparison, TribeTwelve, which is also more a story than an ARG, and yet the protagonist of that still actually uses twitter to have conversations with the audience rather than just making announcements.

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 		I just wish they'd explain what happened to the old characters that vanished mysteriously, before introducing new ones ._.

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awakeasaurusrex wrote:
lifegospel wrote:
But I have to tell you, writer-to-writer, we're not loving the fact that we have to wait 2-3 weeks between each new entry, now, I understand that you have other commitments, but a regular twitter update or something would help keep players happy without ruining the immersion.
Heck, a tweet a day would take 5 minutes to do, tops, more likely 1 minute on average. Nobody in the world is so busy that they can't manage that.

I know MH is more of a non-interactive story than a true ARG, that's cool, but the sheer extent to which the IG information sources are distanced from the audience is maddening. Compared with EMH - or, better comparison, TribeTwelve, which is also more a story than an ARG, and yet the protagonist of that still actually uses twitter to have conversations with the audience rather than just making announcements.


That's one of my problems with MH. Jay doesn't seem to really care about the audience. He's more focused on doing his own thing and being nice enough to let everyone else know about it.

A tweet every few days is very manageable. I'm all for suspense and dramatic buildup, but you know you're overdoing it when your entire fanbase shits itself over a single tweet.

What could Jay be doing, anyway? From what we've seen, all he does is wander around a hotel acting confused.

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Spritey wrote:
awakeasaurusrex wrote:
lifegospel wrote:
But I have to tell you, writer-to-writer, we're not loving the fact that we have to wait 2-3 weeks between each new entry, now, I understand that you have other commitments, but a regular twitter update or something would help keep players happy without ruining the immersion.
Heck, a tweet a day would take 5 minutes to do, tops, more likely 1 minute on average. Nobody in the world is so busy that they can't manage that.

I know MH is more of a non-interactive story than a true ARG, that's cool, but the sheer extent to which the IG information sources are distanced from the audience is maddening. Compared with EMH - or, better comparison, TribeTwelve, which is also more a story than an ARG, and yet the protagonist of that still actually uses twitter to have conversations with the audience rather than just making announcements.


That's one of my problems with MH. Jay doesn't seem to really care about the audience. He's more focused on doing his own thing and being nice enough to let everyone else know about it.

A tweet every few days is very manageable. I'm all for suspense and dramatic buildup, but you know you're overdoing it when your entire fanbase shits itself over a single tweet.

What could Jay be doing, anyway? From what we've seen, all he does is wander around a hotel acting confused.


OMG guiz, This hotel has Free breakfast, something's up!!!
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 		I'm going to copy some other quotes that involve the safe's combo into this and make it a megapost.
Codes that are proven to be the wrong code will be RED
Random four-digit number codes will be DARKBLUE
Codes that are formed from speculation and analysis of clues and events of significance will be WHITE
Barolas wrote:
In all seriousness, my analysis of the codes comes down to this:

1234 - basic attempt at cracking the safe had a password not been set or a very weak password. He should also try 0000 just for the heck of it.

8416 - This one I can't figure a correlation for. Could be a bank PIN, last four digits of a social, last four digits of a telephone number from my experience with people who set up PINs on debit cards (I'm a banker). If it were a social, there's no way to verify because the last 4 are just a serial number, as to where the first 3 are a region code and second 2 are a group number.

1985 - a possible birth-year. This puts Jay at about 25, which follows cannon age lines.

4613 - Just a pattern on the keypad. Looking at a telephone keypad or something similar, you see he just makes a box. Alternatively, he could have tried 7913, 7946, etc. I don't feel there's anything to read into there. This one can't spell anything because the 1 is an empty key.

Something I'd be curious to see is if the safe has a timer on the failed attempts to avoid the 15 minute time-out. So, if Jay puts in a code 3 to 5 minutes apart, would it still trigger the "hold 15?" Probably, but if it allows us more chances to enter codes, it can't hurt to try.

I feel that this should belong in it's own [PUZZLE] thread, but I didn't want to step on toes. Anyone else feel the same?
Gale wrote:
Wild guess: 4180
Sachael wrote:

There's also that safe. Note how the safe keypad has letters like a phone keypad does. Maybe he should try YAMA (9262)
Dr. Leonard Mengele wrote:
It could be wakeup date/time. Like, 1123(Nov. 23rd) or 0831(8:31 a.m.) or sommat like that.
Leina. wrote:
what if "ivii" stands for 1511 in roman numerals?
Theycallmehsexypants wrote:
Look at an old phones keypad.
He needs to try the numbers
6275
MASK
Makes sense to me anyway.
Pathomer wrote:
I do think that "5377" could be an option.
"Jess"
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I think Jay should try 2539 (ALEX) or 4357 (HELP, from the end of #26) for the room safe.

I'm very curious about this safe and the combination. Weren't there clues in the totheark videos that still haven't been connected? Like the code in Program and Advocate? Using Advocate's sequence as a key for 0-10, Program seemed to say 25-1-13-1 three times. Someone mentioned that the format resembled a binary clock. Furthermore, Advocate said "tick tock" which is obviously onomatopoeia for the sound a clock makes. In light of this, doesn't that number sequence seem strange? Clocks don't have a thirteen and there are only twenty-four hours in a day. But both high numbers fall short by one!
If 13 wraps around to eqaul 1 and 25 wraps around to equal 1, and Program is the clue for the safe, then the combination is 1111.

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 		Nice, I never thought about it that way, I merely dismissed the clock thing cause "the numbers didnt fit". 1-1-1-1 works too I guess. Problem is, J has already been guessing at the numbers, and 1-1-1-1 is usually a number people press at random just to see if by chance it'll work, much like 1234

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 		I wonder if he's making progress toward opening the safe?

Realistically, its been a week since he posted that video, and who knows how long before that he found the safe. He could have tried well over a thousand combinations this week:
4 tries per "timeout",
1 every 15 minutes (4 per hour)
16 hours (24 hours a day - 8 to sleep) = about 256 per day.

Assuming that he isn't just sitting around waiting for another chance to try the safe, it will be less than that, but he still could have tried quite a few while he's been there, I'm sure that would get really tedious and be a pretty sucky couple of weeks, but what else has he got to do besides listening to Jessica stub her toe?


...unless tta is sneaking in his room and changing it somehow

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jackofnotrades wrote:
...unless tta is sneaking in his room and changing it somehow


Bastard!

But really, Jay seems to be the shut-in sort. I betcha he's been sitting around trying codes for a good chunk of the day, if not the entire day, for the last few. If some shit like this happened to me, I probably would too.

I have to ask, though: has anyone sent any of these to Jay yet? If not, it might be worthwhile to.

As for Jay's income, I agree it is pretty baffling. However, there are a lot of ways in this world to have come across money that fit into this kind of mysterious narrative theme... I mean, for all we know, he's making his money somehow on the internet, or he's got absent relatives who send him a living stipend, or he's inherited a bunch of cash, or he's living off of student loans (ha ha, something I can sympathize with and can vouch would hold someone for a while, if he's being frugal). Or he could just be wracking up like INSANE credit card debt. I agree that for the sake of immersion it might help to know this stuff, but then again, it's that same immersion that makes me content not to know. It's not a detail I could ever see Jay revealing to the audience, so having him come out and say "oh yeah I got all this money b/c my rich aunt died like last year" would be much more jarring than simply being left to assume.

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 		Here's something my friend suggested when we were talking about new entries: why doesn't Jay google himself?

If he did something news-worthy in the past seven months, he could google his full name to find local news reports. Or if he's been registered as a missing person, he could find a report on that through Google easily. Either of those would explain how Jessica recognised his surname, as has been stated before.

Of course, if something/one got to him before he could post Entry #28 to Twitter, it'd be a bit late for that.
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Arison wrote:
Here's something my friend suggested when we were talking about new entries: why doesn't Jay google himself?

If he did something news-worthy in the past seven months, he could google his full name to find local news reports. Or if he's been registered as a missing person, he could find a report on that through Google easily. Either of those would explain how Jessica recognised his surname, as has been stated before.

Of course, if something/one got to him before he could post Entry #28 to Twitter, it'd be a bit late for that.


I doubt Jay would use his real name when he was missing for seven months (under someone's control and broke into a place/book a hotel room etc...) but a missing person's report would work Smile

The only thing that I can think of that wouldn't work for the report would be that he was in collage, most likely in a dorm so maybe no one realized that he went missing? But then again, teachers would notice that...and so would his parents so nevermind haha Smile

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 		BIG SEXY CODE GUESS: 3577 or 3547

Remember this twitpic? We got what "41810" was, but not the numbers at the top. Some thought it was a bible verse, others had many different ideas.

This make sense to all of thee MHaddicts?

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ChemicalFire wrote:
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No way does she recognise Jay from Marble Hornets. She's obviously reacting to his SURNAME, which isn't ever mentioned in the series. If she was reacting to his first name it'd be ridiculous, because it's a freaking common name, and nobody ever hears a first name and goes "Wow, that sounds so familiar!"

If I introduced myself to you as Martin Billany, you wouldn't go "Huh, Martin. That's very familiar!" if the only online alias I had was Martin.

As for her being a MH at all, if she *were* a fan, she'd react AS SOON as she saw the guy, not after hearing his name, if she were really that familiar with it. The name "Jay" isn't exactly the most stand-out aspect of the show.

My theory is that she's seen Jay's name mentioned in a news report - maybe not even his name, perhaps his family. It's something he's done in the last seven months that he's not aware of. It's like one of those scenes in a TV show where a suspect is fleeing from a crime he has or hasn't committed, and he's trying to lie his way out of a situation where somebody KNOWS they're a suspect but they can't quite place their face/name. Except in this instance, even Jay doesn't know what he's done.


A news report like maybe a building burning down?


We were shown that new report, his name was not mentioned during it.


This is not solid. The description for Entry #25 says, "Names and locations were removed." and there are several blank spots in the audio where someone's name or location could have been which he removed afterwards. Furthermore, Jay's video of the news report starts at the beginning and cuts off before it finishes. It seems like the normal length for a news report and it looks like there wouldn't be anything more after what he showed, but no one can tell for sure because unless you see them start to cover the next story, it's impossible to tell if that was the end of the report.

I have to admit the first thought I had when she said, "Were you in something that I've seen?" was that she recognized him or the name 'Jay' from his YouTube videos, because his YouTube account is actually part of the game. As for her saying his name with his last name, she merely said it the way she just heard it said to her. His last name doesn't necessarily have to be the part she recognized.

I also would not discount the idea that she simply saw someone with a name similar to his that wasn't even him. I've met people of whom I thought, "Do I know this person?" and it turned out that I didn't. It's the simplest answer and as such, we often either overlook it or fail to mention it in discussion.

LittleKuriboh wrote:
If she was reacting to his first name it'd be ridiculous, because it's a freaking common name, and nobody ever hears a first name and goes "Wow, that sounds so familiar!"

She could have been reacting to his first name AND his face, which is definitely an outstanding combination in comparison to a first name only.

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Gatto wrote:
BIG SEXY CODE GUESS: 3577 or 3547

Remember this twitpic? We got what "41810" was, but not the numbers at the top. Some thought it was a bible verse, others had many different ideas.

This make sense to all of thee MHaddicts?


It depends on what it is. If it's the subject line of the message... maybe... if it's anything unreliable to control, it's probably nothing. I only have a cheapo Nokia with midi ringer, so if anyone has that sort of phone (in twitpic, not mine) with that software and all, it might be worth telling Gatto here whether or not he's found something.

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