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Ethan = Ryan Emerson... (Dina=Sylvia?, Caesar=Jesse?)
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2 quick things to add to the mix, I mentioned one of these in another thread but I think it got lost in the excitement of chancesend's tapestry discovery:

- The heismissing picture looks (to me, anyway) like a sharper crop of one of the pictures in dimitri.zip from MLO's metadex. (Comparison below, would love it if someone else could confirm). If this is the case, and I am not just staring at the pictures for far, far too long, how could caesar have got a hold of these, and can that lead to speculation that caesar knows a lot more about the disappearance than he/she lets on?

- Dina had a strange thing happen to her on the subway, which has kind of slipped into the background here. Someone had the power to alter the subway display - only for her! Even the subway attendant dude, standing right beside her did not see anything, and thought she was a bit nutty. Now, one of the resident legends in this forum picked up that the static in Dina's film of this event (won't go on about the camera seeing the 'glitch' when no one else could) was spelling out 'WAKE UP' in morse code. Although I am sure there are other possibilities, to me it seems that someone who has partial/local control of the matrix is the only person who could do this, just like Morpheus/Trinity did to Neo at the very start of the first movie.

So, although I just wanted to add those facts to the mix, my thoughts here are that perhaps if the number of offspring does not add up, one of them may be outside/freed and trying to re-establish contact?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2003 6:02 pm
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Quote:

Now, one of the resident legends in this forum picked up that the static in Dina's film of this event (won't go on about the camera seeing the 'glitch' when no one else could) was spelling out 'WAKE UP' in morse code.


I hadn't read that yet... that's awesome. I think this means that little missing Jesse has been uplugged from the Matrix and is trying to get his mom Dina to wake up enough to jack her out as well. That's why she's freaking out and remembering stuff from her life as Sylvia before her memory was wiped.
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But there has to be a connection between the hackers and Ryan & Sylvia.
Remember the silvia files?
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my theories

I think we can all say we agree on ethan/ryan, dina/sylvia and jesse/caesar.

If Jesse is looking for his parents and they have been wiped of all memories surely he may not remember too much about them?

Remeber MLO's file on them and how he didnt understand that she is missing had all traces wiped of her existance and further MLO did not understand how she was involved with Avery (something like 'Why her')

Perhaps Jesse found the two photographs knew that the woman was his mother (Dina in her postings alludes at the strong connection between the two) and the other photo he presumed to be his father.

Has anyone emailed Dina and told her to check out the she is missing site and say we think your son is looking for you?
Just a thought.
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Re: my theories

Mendax XIII wrote:
I think we can all say we agree on ethan/ryan, dina/sylvia and jesse/caesar.

If Jesse is looking for his parents and they have been wiped of all memories surely he may not remember too much about them?

Remeber MLO's file on them and how he didnt understand that she is missing had all traces wiped of her existance and further MLO did not understand how she was involved with Avery (something like 'Why her')

Perhaps Jesse found the two photographs knew that the woman was his mother (Dina in her postings alludes at the strong connection between the two) and the other photo he presumed to be his father.

Has anyone emailed Dina and told her to check out the she is missing site and say we think your son is looking for you?
Just a thought.


Oh...interesting. I hadn't thought of it that way, that s/heismissing may be from two different families. That's the only theory I've read that helps resolve those annoying interconnections that we've seen. Yeah...because, while we know that heismissing is Avery, we just assumed that sheismissing is his ex because we know that she's also missing. Hmm...then why would Jesse have the pic of Avery? Well, I guess if Ryan worked for Murpha, maybe he worked on the Aquapolis or one of the Metacortex buildings, so they'd be in contact...or they may have been family friends. Hey, that one makes sense...if Ryan's dad/brother/uncle/whoever is CEO of Murpha, and Murpha has worked on so many Metacortex-related buildings, then it would make sense for the Emersons and the Averys to know each other and even be friends. It's sketchy, but at least it's an explanation...nice, Mendax...

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Another possibility

heismissing = avery

ryan=ethan

sylvia=sheismissing=dina

caesar=jesse

sheismissing would be heismissing's EX wife.. right? So, there is no problem with the idea that sheismissing was married to someone else already, is there?

So - jesse is looking for his parents - they were divorced and both disappeared, making it that much stranger that they both disappeared, especially since his mom's new husband is also gone.

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ChainedLightning wrote:
Another possibility

heismissing = avery

ryan=ethan

sylvia=sheismissing=dina

caesar=jesse

sheismissing would be heismissing's EX wife.. right? So, there is no problem with the idea that sheismissing was married to someone else already, is there?

So - jesse is looking for his parents - they were divorced and both disappeared, making it that much stranger that they both disappeared, especially since his mom's new husband is also gone.


That^ seems like the most logical explanation to me so far. Now I can untwist my brain... I hope. Thank you!
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The title of this thread should now be "SOLVED" or "FACT" rather than "SPEC" now. =]

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XtRaVa wrote:
The title of this thread should now be "SOLVED" or "FACT" rather than "SPEC" now. =]

Well, I don't know about that... we can't be 100% sure yet... I don't think... Omnie, what do you think? If we knew that Avery's ex-wife's name was Sylvia, then I'd have no doubts. In either case, what ChainedLightning says is the best we have right now, imho.
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Um... maybe I missed something, but if Dina = sheismissing, and she's still posting to her's and Ethan's blog, why doesn't she just tell everyone where she is? Then she won't be missing. Very Happy
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I'm pretty sure she doesn't know she's missing.

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yanka wrote:
XtRaVa wrote:
The title of this thread should now be "SOLVED" or "FACT" rather than "SPEC" now. =]

Well, I don't know about that... we can't be 100% sure yet... I don't think... Omnie, what do you think? If we knew that Avery's ex-wife's name was Sylvia, then I'd have no doubts. In either case, what ChainedLightning says is the best we have right now, imho.


Heh, if we knew the ex's name, I'd be very happy to call it solved. Yeah, I agree that this is still in the realm of spec. I like ChainedLightning's idea, it'd make a logical connection between the two families. That's what we're missing right now, the connecting step...we know that they are connected, mostly from the paintover connections, but I'm not sure how...

The Emersons' wedding certificate is from 1988, right? So, if Sylvia was married to James and had a son with him before marrying Ryan, they would have had to get divorced a while ago, while Jesse was still very young. Let's say he was 2-4, then he would be 17-19 now, seems plausible. I assume he lived with the Emersons rather than James? And then James would have visitation rights and all that, since Beth mentions that James and his ex-wife remained on good terms for the sake of their son. This makes sense...does anyone want to go comb through Dina's dream posts to see if there are any hints of non-Ryan/Ethan men in her life? Mr. Green

The fact that they're all missing is really interesting...I wonder if the cause is the same. The evidence on why they're missing is sooo vague right now...something to do with James' trip to Zurich, Ryan's mysterious encounter with Agents... *confused*

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Did I miss something? I thought dina wrote something saying she thinks they used to be ryan and sylvia...is it coz she didnt actually say "we are them" that this remains as spec?

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XtRaVa wrote:
Did I miss something? I thought dina wrote something saying she thinks they used to be ryan and sylvia...is it coz she didnt actually say "we are them" that this remains as spec?


The problem is not with Dina and Ethan being Sylvia and Ryan. The problem is with Sylvia and Ryan being sheismissing and heismissing while Caesar is Jesse: the evidence that heismissing is Avery is much stronger. So, that's the problem: why is Jesse looking for Avery? Chained's explanation takes care of that problem really nicely: Jesse is Dina's (= Sylvia's = Avery's ex-wife's) and Avery's son. That's why he is looking for Avery, rather than for Ethan. Of course, we still can't be 100% sure, but that's the first self-consistent theory I've heard so far.
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Maybe Jesse assumes Avery's his dad. He could be on the wrong track. Or we are... Wink
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