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[PUZZLE] Entry #28's Safe Code
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TheMorrigan
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 		Re: First time post, some observations
Mantisbot wrote:
Zarggg wrote:
I had always thought the implication was that recording the Operator was what set him onto you.


Could be, but then that would mean the whole time Alex was away from the situation the Operator would've been with him, watching (unless it was just chance that the Op showed up when the camera got turned on). If the Op always meant Alex harm then why would he have waited until Alex's GF whipped out the camera to do something? Is the Op incapable of interacting with our world without being caught on film?

When a troll (in this case irl) finds a particularly entertaining mark, he wishes to f with him for all eternity. He might enjoy making the world think Alex is crazy and therefore having witnesses - especially camera evidence - ruins everything!
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 		Re: First time post, some observations
Mantisbot wrote:
Zarggg wrote:
I had always thought the implication was that recording the Operator was what set him onto you.


Could be, but then that would mean the whole time Alex was away from the situation the Operator would've been with him, watching (unless it was just chance that the Op showed up when the camera got turned on). If the Op always meant Alex harm then why would he have waited until Alex's GF whipped out the camera to do something? Is the Op incapable of interacting with our world without being caught on film?


Not exactly. I see it more this way:

The Operator was likely watching Alex from the moment he started checking out the area for filming. However, he's not visible and doesn't affect anything. He's just observing. However, once Alex's camera started filming him, that brought the Operator's attention to Alex. I see it as a cumulative affect: As Alex inadvertently shot footage of the Operator more and more (unknown to himself at the time, since he couldn't see him), the Operator started seeking out Alex more and more Eventually Alex became so obsessed with the Operator that he started filming himself 24/7 in an effort to capture him on film and find out more about him. This eventually leads to the Entry where Alex is exploring the creepy house, when Alex decides he needs to just GTFO for his own sake. By abandoning the project, relocating, and never again using the "tainted" camera, he seems to avoid the Operator's notice/curiosity/malice/what-have-you. However, once Alex's girlfriend starts using the old camera again, that immediately brings the Operator's attention back to Alex.

The only point in this that I'm still unsure on is whether Alex can actually see the Operator or not. The series was very heavy on the fact that the only way to actually detect his presence was through the camera: either captured image or electrical interference. However, there are at least two moments when it seems that Alex actually sees the Operator without the aid of the camera: When they are filming in the woods and Alex approaches him and when Alex's girlfriend finds the camera. However, the latter reason could be Alex just reacting to her and thinking "oh shit, there's only one thing she could be seeing on there".

On the other hand, every theory involving cameras and people seeing the Operator while filming is shot to hell if we take into account that viewfinders on cameras (unless they're digital) don't actually go through the recording, just mirrored off the lens. Razz

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 		There was some theorizing some time back in regards to the Operator's relationship to the camera, and that it wasn't so much that he could only be seen through the camera -- you've listed yourself the moments that contract that particular theory -- but that the camera limited the Operator's powers somehow.

Think quantum physics, where observing a particle makes it tangible, wheras the unobserved is a cloud of probabilities. Maybe the observed Operator can only be in once place at one time moving at speeds that make sense with his chosen physical form and the universe he's in, but the UNobserved Operator is not so limited.

I think of Entry #14 as a kind of general example of this. We see the Operator on-camera, moving creepily but in a generally understandable sense. Then boom, the moment he's off-camera something seems to go down and a second later we've got Alex, bleeding from the head, and no Operator to be seen (unless Alex is simply so catatonic in that one that he doesn't react to the Operator even if he IS there). How did the Operator (assumedly) injure Alex so quickly? And then where did he go? Maybe off-camera, the Operator can do more than he can on-camera.

That'd also give him a reason to be pissed off, confused, intrigued, or whatever he is by being filmed by Alex.

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Undertheark wrote:
Sho Ke wrote:
This may be trout as I haven't read the last two pages, but has anyone tried converting the four capital letters(as seen in TTA's last image) to numbers corresponding to the number pad? This is the image I'm referring to:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdohDZfWiSw&feature=related

M, V, K and E are capitalized, but not n and b.

MVKE would be 6853.
*Edited to correct my fail conversion


Boys Noise?

Oh fk I'm an idiot. Wrong link D:

THIS is the link I meant to put in:
http://twitpic.com/37i5t2
Derrrrrrrrrrrrrp :fp:

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 		@JKatkina:

I actually kind of like this idea. (And from an OOG perspective, it does kind of shade of the original SM discussions when it was being made.)

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 		1124. it's the first thing that popped into my head. Just a guess though.

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kimbianajones wrote:
Don't know if anyone's suggested this yet, but when J posted that twit pic on twitter before entry 26, the number/contact info he received the text from was just a few pairs of numbers - 35:77//47. I'd want to see him try some combination of those, like 7747.

This is what i'm talking about, if anyone didn't follow:

http://twitpic.com/1dbey4


Yeah I'm fairly sure this means that the number 7747 will be the key to the safe and if not something involving that number will happen in entry 35. However there is a problem with this. It looks as if they were not really planning for a second season. The idea that they would plan that there would be a safe that would be unlocked in entry 35 with the code 7747 from that cell phone number is far fetched.

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yroc1234 wrote:
kimbianajones wrote:
Don't know if anyone's suggested this yet, but when J posted that twit pic on twitter before entry 26, the number/contact info he received the text from was just a few pairs of numbers - 35:77//47. I'd want to see him try some combination of those, like 7747.

This is what i'm talking about, if anyone didn't follow:

http://twitpic.com/1dbey4


Yeah I'm fairly sure this means that the number 7747 will be the key to the safe and if not something involving that number will happen in entry 35. However there is a problem with this. It looks as if they were not really planning for a second season. The idea that they would plan that there would be a safe that would be unlocked in entry 35 with the code 7747 from that cell phone number is far fetched.


Actually, I'm pretty sure that by the time Jay received that text, the creators had already made plans for a second season, but they'd said in interviews that they hadn't started writing yet.
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lifegospel wrote:
yroc1234 wrote:
kimbianajones wrote:
Don't know if anyone's suggested this yet, but when J posted that twit pic on twitter before entry 26, the number/contact info he received the text from was just a few pairs of numbers - 35:77//47. I'd want to see him try some combination of those, like 7747.

This is what i'm talking about, if anyone didn't follow:

http://twitpic.com/1dbey4


Yeah I'm fairly sure this means that the number 7747 will be the key to the safe and if not something involving that number will happen in entry 35. However there is a problem with this. It looks as if they were not really planning for a second season. The idea that they would plan that there would be a safe that would be unlocked in entry 35 with the code 7747 from that cell phone number is far fetched.


Actually, I'm pretty sure that by the time Jay received that text, the creators had already made plans for a second season, but they'd said in interviews that they hadn't started writing yet.


Thats what I remember hearing. So by non-immersion logic(unfortunatley) 35:77//47 can't really mean anything in regards to season 2. It was such a good lead too Sad .

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yroc1234 wrote:
lifegospel wrote:
yroc1234 wrote:
kimbianajones wrote:
Don't know if anyone's suggested this yet, but when J posted that twit pic on twitter before entry 26, the number/contact info he received the text from was just a few pairs of numbers - 35:77//47. I'd want to see him try some combination of those, like 7747.

This is what i'm talking about, if anyone didn't follow:

http://twitpic.com/1dbey4


Yeah I'm fairly sure this means that the number 7747 will be the key to the safe and if not something involving that number will happen in entry 35. However there is a problem with this. It looks as if they were not really planning for a second season. The idea that they would plan that there would be a safe that would be unlocked in entry 35 with the code 7747 from that cell phone number is far fetched.


Actually, I'm pretty sure that by the time Jay received that text, the creators had already made plans for a second season, but they'd said in interviews that they hadn't started writing yet.


Thats what I remember hearing. So by non-immersion logic(unfortunatley) 35:77//47 can't really mean anything in regards to season 2. It was such a good lead to Sad .


Right. Too bad, that would have probably made a great lead.
Wait a minute!
Some of the leads have traced back to the Qur'an IIRC, and 35:77 sounds like it might relate to a specific verse or section.

EDIT: Awkward. I'm pretty sure we already tried something similar to this, forget what I spec'd
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 		I know some of you did send some codes to Jay to try but did he gave any feedback ?
Except the fact that the safe is still locked.
Because lots of combinations have been thrown here, i'd like to know if some (if any) were tested.

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Or if the safe is a stroytelling tool to delay a big reveal of any kind, or worse a red herring


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 		I've seen ALEX and JESS be mentioned as possibilities for the code, but has another 4 letter name possible Masky/Victim been mentioned? I'm talking about ...

SETH

which could either go to 7384 (Keypad) or 5374 (numbers that look like letters).

I'm just throwing it out there. Has this been mentioned before or am I completely off my knocker for thinking of Seth?

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yroc1234 wrote:
lifegospel wrote:
yroc1234 wrote:
kimbianajones wrote:
Don't know if anyone's suggested this yet, but when J posted that twit pic on twitter before entry 26, the number/contact info he received the text from was just a few pairs of numbers - 35:77//47. I'd want to see him try some combination of those, like 7747.

This is what i'm talking about, if anyone didn't follow:

http://twitpic.com/1dbey4


Yeah I'm fairly sure this means that the number 7747 will be the key to the safe and if not something involving that number will happen in entry 35. However there is a problem with this. It looks as if they were not really planning for a second season. The idea that they would plan that there would be a safe that would be unlocked in entry 35 with the code 7747 from that cell phone number is far fetched.


Actually, I'm pretty sure that by the time Jay received that text, the creators had already made plans for a second season, but they'd said in interviews that they hadn't started writing yet.


Thats what I remember hearing. So by non-immersion logic(unfortunatley) 35:77//47 can't really mean anything in regards to season 2. It was such a good lead too Sad .

Uh, no, non-immersion logic doesn't imply that at all. If they hadn't come up with anything with respect to season 2 when the text was sent, then when they did get around to cooking up the season 2 material they could have gone back to the text and decided to use the number from it for some purpose in the season, right?

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kenshiro wrote:
I know some of you did send some codes to Jay to try but did he gave any feedback ?
Except the fact that the safe is still locked.
Because lots of combinations have been thrown here, i'd like to know if some (if any) were tested.

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Or if the safe is a stroytelling tool to delay a big reveal of any kind, or worse a red herring


If you read back, right near the beginning of the thread I sent Jay a series of the more promising, early combination ideas. He never got back to me, and never mentioned trying out any of them. I'm feeling at this point that the plot doesn't rest on our shoulders; they'll get to opening the safe in the series when they want to get to it, not when we figure out the combo.

Which is a bit of a bummer. It was nice to imagine for a while that we had some interactivity here!

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JKatkina wrote:
If you read back, right near the beginning of the thread I sent Jay a series of the more promising, early combination ideas. He never got back to me, and never mentioned trying out any of them. I'm feeling at this point that the plot doesn't rest on our shoulders; they'll get to opening the safe in the series when they want to get to it, not when we figure out the combo.

Which is a bit of a bummer. It was nice to imagine for a while that we had some interactivity here!


This worried me a little. If the plot doesn't rest on our shoulders at all, then this isn't an ARG and all our discussion is no different from TV fans speculating on their favourite shows.

It wouldn't put me off following MH; I still really enjoy it, but I'd like to think there was a little more to it than just a Web-show.

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