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[FILM] Things to look for in TRON:Legacy
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ADarkly
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 		[quote="Christien"]
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Was there anything at the end of the credits?


I waited, there was nothing, except the privilege of being last in line to pick up your phone. Smart move bolting out of there.


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You don't think those events were planned long before hand? I'm sure most of the ARG was designed in outline before the first Bit hit the post office.The details of each stage are malleable I'm sure, but they can't exactly just make up the story and events a month in advance - especially when they're using the REAL actors from the film.


I don't know how long the events were planned before hand, do you? All I can do is base my analysis on the facts at hand, and the chronology of events. The 89 logo appears in the trailer before the ARG. That trailer utilized scenes shot months before that.

If you want to get really technical, the ARG started with the Flynn's Arcade event back in July '09. If 42E was already working up the outline then, they could easily get involved with the Disney folks enough to talk about a logo that Sam would use that would appear in both the film and the ARG. I'm not aware that the shooting schedule was ever published either, or that anyone knows when those shots were put together. In a recent interview it was noted that as little as 2 weeks ago, they were STILL putting the last bits of work on the film. Usually a film is 'in the can' a month before its released.

Also, the first trailer with footage from the film, NOT the FX test, was first shown 2 weeks after the first ARG event of 2010. I'm sure that event with coordination in cities worldwide, including the logistics of setting up cell phones that would work worldwide, took at least a month to plan, probably more.

Another thing that makes me think the 89 Forever logo and idea was an insertion specifically as a result of the ARG work is that I have not seen any other usage of the logo in any other merchandising or licensed materials.
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 		Syd Mead references
As Sam is leaving Flynn's arcade I noticed it was on "Mead" street. Didn't catch the intersecting street. The original Syd Mead Tron font seems to be unchanged and prominently displayed during the Disc War scene as well.

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 		Has anyone made the Dumont Shipping connection yet? Dumont was the guardian of the portal in Tron. The portal is used to send or 'ship' info in and out. Dumont Shipping is another nod to Tron.
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Euchre wrote:
confusion wrote:
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You don't think those events were planned long before hand? I'm sure most of the ARG was designed in outline before the first Bit hit the post office.The details of each stage are malleable I'm sure, but they can't exactly just make up the story and events a month in advance - especially when they're using the REAL actors from the film.


I don't know how long the events were planned before hand, do you? All I can do is base my analysis on the facts at hand, and the chronology of events. The 89 logo appears in the trailer before the ARG. That trailer utilized scenes shot months before that.

If you want to get really technical, the ARG started with the Flynn's Arcade event back in July '09. If 42E was already working up the outline then, they could easily get involved with the Disney folks enough to talk about a logo that Sam would use that would appear in both the film and the ARG. I'm not aware that the shooting schedule was ever published either, or that anyone knows when those shots were put together. In a recent interview it was noted that as little as 2 weeks ago, they were STILL putting the last bits of work on the film. Usually a film is 'in the can' a month before its released.

Also, the first trailer with footage from the film, NOT the FX test, was first shown 2 weeks after the first ARG event of 2010. I'm sure that event with coordination in cities worldwide, including the logistics of setting up cell phones that would work worldwide, took at least a month to plan, probably more.

Another thing that makes me think the 89 Forever logo and idea was an insertion specifically as a result of the ARG work is that I have not seen any other usage of the logo in any other merchandising or licensed materials.


Hard to know. It's pure conjecture on both our parts. As far as the 89 being used for licensing, it's on the Oakley hardcase backpack.

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 		They also sell and 89 hat at ElecTRONica.

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Has anyone made the Dumont Shipping connection yet? Dumont was the guardian of the portal in Tron. The portal is used to send or 'ship' info in and out. Dumont Shipping is another nod to Tron.


Just to clarify...Walter Dumont started Encom (Dillinger: "Encom isn't the business you started in your garage anymore"). He's not just some guy who happened to own a shipping company and worked in the laser lab. But it was apparent that Dillinger was forcing him out at the time (Dumont: "Sometimes I wish I was back in that garage." Dillinger: "That can be arranged, Walter.") So it's no wonder he'd have a soft spot for Flynn & his son.
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 		You mean Walter Gibbs, who is the apparent coder of Dumont.
Dumont is also a reference to the early TV maker, who was pretty much the sole one initially and for a time a television was called a 'Dumont', much as a wireless radio was called a 'Marconi'.

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Euchre wrote:
You mean Walter Gibbs, who is the apparent coder of Dumont.
Dumont is also a reference to the early TV maker, who was pretty much the sole one initially and for a time a television was called a 'Dumont', much as a wireless radio was called a 'Marconi'.

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Thanks, I hang my head in shame for missing that in my edits.

Yes, Gibbs, not Dumont. Although then, it should be Gibbs Shipping, shouldn't it? Where did the Dumont name come from? I suppose he must have used that as his program/login name, similar to Lora/Yori, right?
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 		In the ARG it seems Dumont Shipping has been around a LONG time, part of Encom for a fair while too. I tend to wonder if the I/O program was named Dumont by Gibbs in honor of the division, considering their logistical natures. In the original film there's no mention of any subsidiaries, so in that canon one could say they named or renamed the shipping company in honor of the program Kevin encountered while on the original Grid.
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Euchre wrote:
You mean Walter Gibbs, who is the apparent coder of Dumont.
Dumont is also a reference to the early TV maker, who was pretty much the sole one initially and for a time a television was called a 'Dumont', much as a wireless radio was called a 'Marconi'.

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Euchre wrote:
You mean Walter Gibbs, who is the apparent coder of Dumont.
Dumont is also a reference to the early TV maker, who was pretty much the sole one initially and for a time a television was called a 'Dumont', much as a wireless radio was called a 'Marconi'.

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 		Anyone notice the map thing to Zuse's "sector" was almost exactly like an EOLC coaster?

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 		Someone tell me please... Did anyone spot the Mickey? I am reasonably sure there is one in there somewhere. Also the original had a hidden Pacman (and the pacman munching noise at the same time it was shown!) Think there are any hidden video game images as well? I tried to catch some in the fireworks, but I didn't see any. I'm sure I'm going to see the movie again, so if someone spots it somewhere, let me know so I can catch it in my next viewing!!!

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Someone tell me please... Did anyone spot the Mickey? I am reasonably sure there is one in there somewhere. Also the original had a hidden Pacman (and the pacman munching noise at the same time it was shown!) Think there are any hidden video game images as well? I tried to catch some in the fireworks, but I didn't see any. I'm sure I'm going to see the movie again, so if someone spots it somewhere, let me know so I can catch it in my next viewing!!!


On second viewing, I caught none. But I was a bit too close to the screen at IMAX. I have a few more people bugging me to see it, so I'm sure I'll have a few more opportunities.

BTW, a bunch of Atari games were in the credits, including Yar's Revenge. I haven't seen anything in the trailers...were there a bunch of Atari 2600 games on Sam's shelf that I missed? It was supposed to be '89, so that's kinda late for a 2600 on the shelf of a rich kid...

And speaking of Sam's shelf...anyone else notice that there are *2* 2nd gen light cycles, a white one and a black one?
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