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[SPEC] Entry #29
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Raj39
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Zarggg wrote:
Since this thread was dredged up (rather than the actual video thread), I added some relevant notes to this thread accordingly.

Please note that this thread was created in response to a tweet that Jay made prior to posting Entry #29 and that the video itself was not posted to the thread until we were already five pages in. Additionally, an official video thread was created separately from this thread, which has been linked to in the first post.


Whoops. Well that's...pretty confusing. Guess I didn't look closely enough.

PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:35 pm
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DHawk314
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The way I see it, Jay only had the chest cam for a short period of time in Entry #52, so I don't see him having a real opportunity to film it. I know some think he was teleported to it when he tackled Slendy and then teleported back, but that seems rather complicated. I think it was probably just Alex going back there, but totheark hacked into Alex's computer and took it off the chest cam hard drive for himself, then hacked Jay's computer and put it on there. He presumably hacked Jay YouTube before.

PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 6:40 pm
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Starkley
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DHawk314 wrote:
The way I see it, Jay only had the chest cam for a short period of time in Entry #52, so I don't see him having a real opportunity to film it. I know some think he was teleported to it when he tackled Slendy and then teleported back, but that seems rather complicated.


Adding onto this, the blood was fresh, so it's more likely that someone came and filmed it shortly after it happened, rather than Jay rushing through the forest - somehow with the chest cam on and activated - seeing everything there, and then encountering the Operator again in the wind tunnel just to be teleported back to bed. Because of the freshness, I don't think it could have been Jay.

And I still say it looks like Jay was being pulled down in the "teleportation" shot from 52. It would make sense too. Someone had to drag him on to the bed.

The clothing is kind of weird too though, which kind of puts doubt in my mind that Alex did it.

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pravado
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This made me rewatch entry 52. Never thought about it, but Jay was really quick to put the chestcam on even though he had never done so before.

The footage taken during the operator struggle is at first the chestcam, then the handcam. I really can't figure out what Jay is sitting against staring up at the operator. it looks like nothing in the hotel room (maybe the blinds, but they were closed and there's stilll a black squiggly line going across em)

Makes me wonder why Jay doesn't use the chestcam in season 3 even though he still has it. It's probably a bitch to shoot with that thing because you can't tell if you messed up or not until you plug it into a computer and check

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Starkley
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pravado wrote:

Makes me wonder why Jay doesn't use the chestcam in season 3 even though he still has it. It's probably a bitch to shoot with that thing because you can't tell if you messed up or not until you plug it into a computer and check


IG this is probably why too. He'd have a hard time recording Tim properly with a chestcam, or taping the things in the tunnel. It might be awkward to wave things around in front of your chest. And he spends more time walking around others now, so maybe he doesn't want to draw attention?

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Starkley wrote:
pravado wrote:

Makes me wonder why Jay doesn't use the chestcam in season 3 even though he still has it. It's probably a bitch to shoot with that thing because you can't tell if you messed up or not until you plug it into a computer and check


IG this is probably why too. He'd have a hard time recording Tim properly with a chestcam, or taping the things in the tunnel. It might be awkward to wave things around in front of your chest. And he spends more time walking around others now, so maybe he doesn't want to draw attention?


It's pretty weird looking having a camera attached to you.

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Starkley
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Dude, Jay posted Tim's medical records on YouTube. I don't know his bloody logic. Laughing

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The question of where this video fits has been bugging me since Season 2 ended.

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DHawk314 wrote:
Starkley wrote:
pravado wrote:

Makes me wonder why Jay doesn't use the chestcam in season 3 even though he still has it. It's probably a bitch to shoot with that thing because you can't tell if you messed up or not until you plug it into a computer and check


IG this is probably why too. He'd have a hard time recording Tim properly with a chestcam, or taping the things in the tunnel. It might be awkward to wave things around in front of your chest. And he spends more time walking around others now, so maybe he doesn't want to draw attention?


It's pretty weird looking having a camera attached to you.


I'm wondering why this was bumped, but I felt like sharing that the camera is called a "Go-Pro"

It's meant for sports, has a fisheye lens and a rather bad audio quality. It's a pain to shoot with too when out of a sport, since there is no screen. You can buy one, but it costs 70 bucks and eats battery life like nothing else.

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slendydreaming
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blacksand, do you mean people use that camera to get the whole on the field action in sports?

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slendydreaming wrote:
blacksand, do you mean people use that camera to get the whole on the field action in sports?


Yes. I happen to own one. It has a head strap too, which looks more video-game esque.

The fisheye is for capturing the moment, basically.

I wear it when I play airsoft, over my mask.

It is, in my opinion, the most versatile camera on the market. You can mount it basically everywhere As a nice touch, it is housed in a clear plastic mount (as seen in MH) and has two sealants for it: One waterproof-silicone case, which muffles the sound but allows complete submergence in water, and one open-case for normal outdoor sports, and has better sound.

This supports maybe Broadcast was filmed by one.

heres one in action:



YouTube: Link


Not my vid

PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 11:37 pm
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Wow. Serious necrothread. Still, this is one of my pet theories, particularly in light of entry 52.

My theory on this is that entry 29 is actually outside of linear time - vaguely in sync with what we see in entry 23. It is called "no entry" for a reason - it is outside of regular continuity and fucks with the general cause-effect and chronology of what happens to Jay.

I have to agree that Jay only has the chestcam for a brief period of time prior to the brain wipe that makes him lose seven months. There's no reason to suggest that he actually goes back into Rosswood after the confrontation with Alex. And even if he did, it has to be a significant period of time after Bruce met his untimely end. it would not make sense for the blood seen in entry 29 to be fresh. And prior consensus on entry 29 is that the footage is taken by Jay. There no accepted way in conventional causality for Jay to have found the bloody scene where Bruce was taken while the blood was still fresh.

It's an extremely WTF theory, but the one of the few even vaguely suggested by the existing facts provided by the entries (the second being that Jay slender-walked [aka fugue-walked] to the site immediately after the murder). Particularly given the fact that the camera person is using a chest came and a handheld camera.

I have no idea why the Operator would bend time and space to take Jay to the Tunnel of RAEG after events of entry 52, but that's asking an inscrutable faceless guy to make sense.

Just putting this out there.*
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Starkley
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I have to be honest, I like the idea of Hoody being able to go buy a seventy dollar chest cam and a pre-owned camcorder and just having followed Alex to the tunnel at some point, having seen what happened, and having come back to record the evidence, or lack thereof. I mean, whoever came to that tunnel searched around like they knew something should be there, and they were moving fast, like they were on a mission. Even if Jay knew what happened, I don't think he would have needed to run. The only other reasonable explanations are Alex (more reasonable, really, if I'm honest, but it's weird for Alex footage to be hidden on Jay's laptop, unless someone put it there - it certainly wasn't Alex himself, so, more Hoody involvement seems likely imo), or Tim (who doesn't seem to really want to give Jay information).

Just, the clothes, the clothes, the clothes. I don't see it being Jay in any scenario.

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pravado
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they've confirmed broadcast was the chestcam underwater

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aidansean
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My theory is that Alex recorded this himself. He wasn't completely lucid during Entry #49 and shortly afterwards he had vague memories of what happened. He went back to see if what he remembered was real or not and found the evidence, then got his memory wiped by the operator. In Entry #45 Alex has a handheld camera, and he mentions explicitly that his "satchel" is a camera case in Entry #50, so I think it's reasonable to assume that this held the second camera. (Some people suggested that it held the gun, but if that's the case then why didn't Alex just shoot Bruce? At such short range he would be unlikely to miss.) I'm not sure why Alex would use two cameras, but then I'm also not why Jay would either. In the short period of time Jay has between arriving at the hotel and the operator showing up he copies the contents to his laptop with the name "noentry" because he wants space on the camera, and Alex has made it very clear what will happen if he uploads videos to youtube.

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