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[VIDEO] Entry #29
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StereotypicalName
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Yay! Slendy is actually a menace now, not just a creepy guy-thing.


Also, bloody shirt=Sarah. Obviously.

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Okay, so there's really no basis for this, in fact some would argue that there's evidence to the contrary, but I don't think that Jay has been out masking it up. In fact, I don't think there's more than one Masky.

I just don't like it from a storytelling perspective. And it really grinds my gears to see how many people are referring to it as if it's an established fact that Jay's been a masky for months.

That's enough ranting from me...

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StereotypicalName wrote:
Yay! Slendy is actually a menace now, not just a creepy guy-thing.


Also, bloody shirt=Sarah. Obviously.


Care to back this up?

TheBioGuy wrote:
Okay, so there's really no basis for this, in fact some would argue that there's evidence to the contrary, but I don't think that Jay has been out masking it up. In fact, I don't think there's more than one Masky.

I just don't like it from a storytelling perspective. And it really grinds my gears to see how many people are referring to it as if it's an established fact that Jay's been a masky for months.

That's enough ranting from me...


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Makdee wrote:
Next up is the distortion on most of the tears, they seem to having timing conflicts between the frames.


Yeah. I'm watching the video again, specifically around the 47 second mark.

It's hard to tell what we're looking at in the top frame (the bloody rock). It's either a) an entirely separate shot or b) incredibly close-up or zoomed in, to the point that it doesn't appear to be fish-eyed.

I guess it's something to look at a bit harder. It's really hard to tell for sure, but it doesn't appear to have any qualities of something shot through a fish-eye lens, unlike the other clips.

The visual tearing is definitely much different in this clip. I don't remember there ever being a distinct time/space delay in the tear. It was usually just the top of the clip appearing at the bottom / vice-versa, but now we're seeing visuals from entirely different times, and possibly entirely different places. That's beyond something that would just 'happen' to a file, that's some serious Slenderfucking going on. I'm loving it (it's 8:30am and I'm freaked the hell out, if that's any indication of how well-crafted this entry is, IMHO).

Also, just to clarify, the last visible portion of the clip (the frozen image of the Operator) is definitely the same shot, just distorted (very similar to the end of Entry 26). [lame]I sat with my fingers pointed at the different points of light in the first shot and followed them into the second to see if they shifted. They did not.[/lame]

This was definitely worth the wait. I'm loving the speculation. I'm definitely in the 'Jay was doing Masky-things' camp, but entirely from the place of speculation (we won't 'know' what he was up to for a while, I'm assuming, so I'm enjoying the mystery and the assumptions). I haven't talked to my brother about it yet (I'm just seeing it now after an overnight shift, and he's at school.) but if either of us finds anything noteworthy I'll post it.

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Draxis
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Entry #29 thoughts and other
ToTheArk

why would they kill off alex and tim? i think it would be too fast in the series to do that. Jay is all that is left now and if what you all say is right then he will be dead before this series takes off. I believe that SOMEONE was killed maybe a little kid from a birthday party.. you know how slendy likes the little ones Wink but not alex.

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Draxis wrote:
I always thought ToTArk was more along the lines of take me to Alex R. K. as in his middle name and last name being R. K.


Look, I see you've just come onto the forums, so you'll have to forgive me but this is a bit of an old subject and oldies like myself don't really like to bring it up too much. But I will do it one more time:

Alex's middle name does NOT begin with R.
http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=29870
http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=784907#784907

my apologizes

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Okay, so there's really no basis for this, in fact some would argue that there's evidence to the contrary, but I don't think that Jay has been out masking it up. In fact, I don't think there's more than one Masky.

I just don't like it from a storytelling perspective. And it really grinds my gears to see how many people are referring to it as if it's an established fact that Jay's been a masky for months.

That's enough ranting from me...


There are only 2 points tying Jay to being a masky.

1)Masky is seen wearing a same colored hoody as Jay in one of the twitpics.

Not conclusive but an interesting point.

2)Masky posted multiple pics to Jay's twitter.

If it was only 1 then it could be said that Masky just hacked in. However, he posted multiple pictures which means that he is Jay or Jay stopped checking his twitter account for an extended period of time and then finally check on twitter after he "woke up."

These are not enough evidence to point to them being the same person. They are weak connections at best.

Then again, there is no evidence this season to point to masky not being Jay. The only argument we have as them not being the same thus far is that he was a separate person in the first season. A weak argument at best.

We need more evidence for either conclusion.

With that being said, it would be best to keep discussions about masky in the proper threads. ("Who is Masky" for instance).

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What I'm getting at is, what if Jay himself named the file Noentry to try and remind himself not to use it as an Entry? That'd lead to the question of why not? What if the blood is Jay's handiwork? Maybe he's done something terrible and suppressed the memory himself.


This is possible, however based upon the footage we have it seems unlikely. The cameraman seems to be eying the blood. He obviously has no recollection of it. It was recent, and thus it is unlikely that the person whom we assumed to have assaulted someone would forget it.

You might argue that they might have forgotten due to slender sickness, but we have yet to see an example of a person losing short term memories. Additionally, those long term memories which are kept are those that were caught on tape. Since the cameraman had both a chest camera and hand held and was filming it is likely that they would have caught the murder on tape and thus remember it.

I find the lack of a body disturbing. Did the person walk away(doubtful)? Did someone move the body? If so, was it the Operator or someone else (like masky)?

I also want to know what was in the bloody cloth. Anyway, running down the path makes more sense to have occurred after the tunnel incident. I wonder if those scenes are out of order?

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Re: Entry #29 thoughts and other
ToTheArk

Draxis wrote:
I always thought ToTArk was more along the lines of take me to Alex R. K. as in his middle name and last name being R. K.


Look, I see you've just come onto the forums, so you'll have to forgive me but this is a bit of an old subject and oldies like myself don't really like to bring it up too much. But I will do it one more time:

Alex's middle name does NOT begin with R.
http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=29870
http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=784907#784907
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Makdee wrote:
You might argue that they might have forgotten due to slender sickness, but we have yet to see an example of a person losing short term memories. Additionally, those long term memories which are kept are those that were caught on tape. Since the cameraman had both a chest camera and hand held and was filming it is likely that they would have caught the murder on tape and thus remember it.



Alex in the end of Entry 22 shows short term memory loss, should we arrive at the conclusion that it was taped almost immediately after the events of Entry 22. I've never heard it argued that it wasn't, but we don't have definitive proof of it either.

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Vazhar wrote:
Makdee wrote:
You might argue that they might have forgotten due to slender sickness, but we have yet to see an example of a person losing short term memories. Additionally, those long term memories which are kept are those that were caught on tape. Since the cameraman had both a chest camera and hand held and was filming it is likely that they would have caught the murder on tape and thus remember it.



Alex in the end of Entry 22 shows short term memory loss, should we arrive at the conclusion that it was taped almost immediately after the events of Entry 22. I've never heard it argued that it wasn't, but we don't have definitive proof of it either.


Entry 22, 5:51-5:55:
Alex: I just woke up in this house, with the tape.

This quote makes me think that there was an appreciable amount of time after the events in the building. Enough time for him to lose consciousness, regain it, assess the situation, review the tape, set up another camera, then film his thoughts.

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At risk of side-tracking to much, I'll just point out that Alex says "All I can remember of the night, is on that tape." Should he know any reasonable amount of time has passed he'd probably refer to it as "that night" or something like that instead of "the night." I believe that video was made relatively soon after the events of the tape, I.E. the following morning.

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LittleKuriboh
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Everybody seems to be applying the wrong meaning of "entry" in relation to the file name "noentry", just because we're used to the videos being posted as Entries.

"No Entry" is something you usually see on road signs or on doors that suggest there's no way through somewhere.

As we already know, there are doors left unopened. It's possible Jay tried to open a door and realised - in a rather messy fashion - that there was no getting through. It's probably a warning to himself not to try the same route twice.

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Been lurking this thread since this morning. I can't think about what could be interesting apart from the voice but my question is, if that ISN'T the (x)perator then why is the visual going all bat**** crazy Razz

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Romulus
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Asked this in the other thread, but I'll ask here too. Youtube is blocked at my workplace and I didn't stay up to watch the video. Can someone post a quick screengrab of the operator reveal? Everyone is saying how much nicer the new model looks but I want to see it.

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Romulus wrote:
Asked this in the other thread, but I'll ask here too. Youtube is blocked at my workplace and I didn't stay up to watch the video. Can someone post a quick screengrab of the operator reveal? Everyone is saying how much nicer the new model looks but I want to see it.

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I wouldn't say nicer, he just looks more threatening, like he's been caught posed mid-action as opposed to lurking passively in he background.

So, Masky or not, do you guys figure Jay's mind is on one consistant track, carrying out actions and switching locations then forgetting having done so without discovering what he's forgotten he previous lapse yet, or that there's two tracks there? That Jay sometimes clicks into the second mode and carries out the actions with prior knowledge of the things he's forgotten in narrator mode?

Also, the wetness of the pipe hadn't washed out the blood completely, do you suppose that means the wounded was alive at the time of the cameraman's entering the tunnel? That, whether or not Slendy wounded them, he was keeping the cameraman (we can't just assume it's Jay, it could be Alex) away from the corpse/injured?
No entry seems to imply as much, which is interesting because it also implies that Slendy wasn't interracting with the cameraman just because he'd stumbled upon him at an inopportune time, but for whatever reason wanted to keep him from the the wounded/dead person.

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