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GhosteM
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 		Anyone try brightening the footage a bit so maybe we can see what else is in the tunnel or what might have fallen out of the shirt? It's pretty dark in there.

EDIT: Also, is it possible that maybe when he pulls the shirt (cloth) back he sees a body against the rock? Maybe its just my screen that's too dark. Why would he reel back like that?

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 		Did anyone else think that when he lifted that rag, a hand fell oout/was uncovered?
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No way does this Operator look better. The best ones were Entry #1, #12, #13, and #14. Those were the best Entries ever.


In the early entries, he just looks like a guy with pantyhose over his head. Now, you can actually see the branch-like shape of his arms. He doesn't look human.


He never looked human to me. At least not the humans I've seen.

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Lunasa wrote:
Did anyone else think that when he lifted that rag, a hand fell oout/was uncovered?


O.o Now that you mention it, Yes.

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 		Took some looks at some screenies of our sack/shirt/whatever with their levels adjusted! It didn't tell us much -- anything, really -- but here they are for your perusal.

I honestly don't think that hand-shape is a hand, though at first it did and while scrubbing through, I seriously had an OMG moment. But it morphs to and from different, more fabricky shapes as you scrub, so it's probably incidental. Cool, though.
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 Description   00:51, this one really gave me a start -- for a moment it DOES look like A HAND falling away from the fabric, but after scrubbing through a few times I'm pretty certain it's just the fabric.
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 Description   00:54, trying to give us a clearer view when he drops the shirt and backs off some. I don't spot any corpse, and there was no more information to level-adjust out of this one. :/ The fabric looks the right size and texture to be a polo shirt or dress shir
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JKatkina wrote:
Took some looks at some screenies of our sack/shirt/whatever with their levels adjusted! It didn't tell us much -- anything, really -- but here they are for your perusal.

I honestly don't think that hand-shape is a hand, though at first it did and while scrubbing through, I seriously had an OMG moment. But it morphs to and from different, more fabricky shapes as you scrub, so it's probably incidental. Cool, though.


That's actually a pretty small looking shirt, now that I look at it again. I thought at first maybe Tim/Masky/TTA had kicked the bucket, or that was a flashback to Brian's remains, but none of the male cast is really that tiny (except maybe Jay but he's clearly alive) so... Alex's GF and/or Sarah? Oh noes. And the shirt doesn't look ripped up to a tinier size, either.

On the subject of Jay recoiling away from the shirt/bloody rock, I don't think a body was there (not saying it isn't possible) but maybe he just noticed Slendy chillin' at the end of the tunnel and flipped a shit.

Hey wait. Why would a shirt be there anyway? I mean, we don't know how Slendy kills his victims (assuming Slendy killed someone), but why is the shirt so intact? Wouldn't it be ripped up, or at least attached to a body? Was someone wounded, and someone stripped to make bandages? It's something to think about.

EDIT: Looking at the entry again, it does look more like he's jumping away from the blood rather than noticing Slendy. But come on, he picked up a bloody shirt. Maybe he just had a bit of an OMG moment?

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Did anyone else think this?
As I watched the entry, I kept expecting to hear, "I am Jay Connor, and this is the Resistance". . .

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 		So, I came up with a new theory today while scrolling through the pages that I missed...

Going on what someone said earlier, about Slendy trying to keep Jay away from whatever is wounded/injured: what if Slendy is a protector instead of malicious like everyone automatically jumped to? Someone hinted at this a few pages back but didn't elaborate. It could make sense. The "unless I've done something that I don't know about" foreshadowing, the fact that the only recorded footage of the bloody tunnel and bloody cloth that Jay has (as far as we know) only see him looking at it and freaking out...I dunno, guys. It's plausible.

I'm starting to go back to the old theory of "what if Jay only remembers what he films." Or, what if the only way he has any recollection of what happened is if he films it and watches it? That could explain why he started wearing the chestcam. No matter what, he can't drop it, so the recording doesn't stop. It's always his POV. Although that doesn't explain the fisheye distortion.
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Moon wrote:
So, I came up with a new theory today while scrolling through the pages that I missed...

Going on what someone said earlier, about Slendy trying to keep Jay away from whatever is wounded/injured: what if Slendy is a protector instead of malicious like everyone automatically jumped to? Someone hinted at this a few pages back but didn't elaborate. It could make sense. The "unless I've done something that I don't know about" foreshadowing, the fact that the only recorded footage of the bloody tunnel and bloody cloth that Jay has (as far as we know) only see him looking at it and freaking out...I dunno, guys. It's plausible.

I'm starting to go back to the old theory of "what if Jay only remembers what he films." Or, what if the only way he has any recollection of what happened is if he films it and watches it? That could explain why he started wearing the chestcam. No matter what, he can't drop it, so the recording doesn't stop. It's always his POV. Although that doesn't explain the fisheye distortion.


That is an interesting theory (about Jay only remembering what he films) - almost as if he retains all memories but can only access them when he views a recording of them. So he might not THINK he remembers any of this stuff happening unless he sees the footage - then the memory is unlocked. Although, he's never hinted at that specific phenomenon but rather only talked about how he is losing memories.

As for the fisheye lens, he probably used that because it allows you to see a much wider viewing angle than with a normal lens. Since the camera is mounted to his chest, he can't freely point it around quickly without turning his whole torso. This way, the camera is much more likely to capture anything interesting he might see and it allows him to operate more-or-less like he did before with his handheld camera.

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Moon wrote:
Going on what someone said earlier, about Slendy trying to keep Jay away from whatever is wounded/injured: what if Slendy is a protector instead of malicious like everyone automatically jumped to? Someone hinted at this a few pages back but didn't elaborate. It could make sense. The "unless I've done something that I don't know about" foreshadowing, the fact that the only recorded footage of the bloody tunnel and bloody cloth that Jay has (as far as we know) only see him looking at it and freaking out...I dunno, guys. It's plausible.


Hmm... that's actually a pretty novel idea. It's definitely plausible, although it would mean that Troy and Joe would be taking the Slendy mythos in a very different direction (or possibly taking advantage of some of the gaps maybe?). From what I gathered spending (way too much) time reading through the original SA thread, Slenderman is definitely malignant, and definitely towards small children, but maybe there's something I'm/we're missing.

Considering the mythos further (OT a bit), I wonder what it is that makes the Operator visible to the MH cast. Unless they only see him when he's on-camera through the view finder, it's been a curiosity of mine since I started watching/reading. *shrug* Either way, it doesn't really kill the immersion for me, just something I wasn't sure about (maybe there's an explanation out there).

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Moon wrote:
So, I came up with a new theory today while scrolling through the pages that I missed...

Going on what someone said earlier, about Slendy trying to keep Jay away from whatever is wounded/injured: what if Slendy is a protector instead of malicious like everyone automatically jumped to? Someone hinted at this a few pages back but didn't elaborate. It could make sense. The "unless I've done something that I don't know about" foreshadowing, the fact that the only recorded footage of the bloody tunnel and bloody cloth that Jay has (as far as we know) only see him looking at it and freaking out...I dunno, guys. It's plausible.
I don't think that Slendy is benevolent in the least. If he was, he wouldn't be having so many detrimental effects on the health of the people he stalks (memory loss, coughing, ect), and he definitely wouldn't have done whatever he did in Entry 14.

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Acora wrote:
Moon wrote:
So, I came up with a new theory today while scrolling through the pages that I missed...

Going on what someone said earlier, about Slendy trying to keep Jay away from whatever is wounded/injured: what if Slendy is a protector instead of malicious like everyone automatically jumped to? Someone hinted at this a few pages back but didn't elaborate. It could make sense. The "unless I've done something that I don't know about" foreshadowing, the fact that the only recorded footage of the bloody tunnel and bloody cloth that Jay has (as far as we know) only see him looking at it and freaking out...I dunno, guys. It's plausible.
I don't think that Slendy is benevolent in the least. If he was, he wouldn't be having so many detrimental effects on the health of the people he stalks (memory loss, coughing, ect), and he definitely wouldn't have done whatever he did in Entry 14.


But it's only theory (albeit a pretty compelling one) that it's Slendy causing the ill health anyway. I've wondered on a few occasions if maybe SM is completely neutral. I mean, obviously he's part of what's going on, but maybe he's only present. We've never seen him do anything but hang around and look creepy.

On a side note, apart from the obvious similarities, has there ever been any concrete confirmation that The Operator is Slender Man? Sorry if that seems like a dumb question, but since facts from the OOG Slender Man mythos are often referenced here I wanted to be sure it's definitely the same thing we're looking at.

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8bitFilk wrote:
Acora wrote:
Moon wrote:
So, I came up with a new theory today while scrolling through the pages that I missed...

Going on what someone said earlier, about Slendy trying to keep Jay away from whatever is wounded/injured: what if Slendy is a protector instead of malicious like everyone automatically jumped to? Someone hinted at this a few pages back but didn't elaborate. It could make sense. The "unless I've done something that I don't know about" foreshadowing, the fact that the only recorded footage of the bloody tunnel and bloody cloth that Jay has (as far as we know) only see him looking at it and freaking out...I dunno, guys. It's plausible.
I don't think that Slendy is benevolent in the least. If he was, he wouldn't be having so many detrimental effects on the health of the people he stalks (memory loss, coughing, ect), and he definitely wouldn't have done whatever he did in Entry 14.


But it's only theory (albeit a pretty compelling one) that it's Slendy causing the ill health anyway. I've wondered on a few occasions if maybe SM is completely neutral. I mean, obviously he's part of what's going on, but maybe he's only present. We've never seen him do anything but hang around and look creepy.

On a side note, apart from the obvious similarities, has there ever been any concrete confirmation that The Operator is Slender Man? Sorry if that seems like a dumb question, but since facts from the OOG Slender Man mythos are often referenced here I wanted to be sure it's definitely the same thing we're looking at.
That still doesn't explain why he snuck into Alex's room and left him bleeding.

Actually, no, there hasn't been. I mean, it's obvious that OOG, the guys based their Operator almost entirely on Slender Man, but it's quite possible that they named him The Operator as sort of a safety net, incase they decide to go against the general Slender Man stories.

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Acora wrote:
That still doesn't explain why he snuck into Alex's room and left him bleeding.


I was forgetting #14! Even then it could be argued that we don't actually see The Operator injure Alex, but it's so heavily implied that even I don't buy that.

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Actually, no, there hasn't been. I mean, it's obvious that OOG, the guys based their Operator almost entirely on Slender Man, but it's quite possible that they named him The Operator as sort of a safety net, incase they decide to go against the general Slender Man stories.


Yeah, I don't for a second doubt that The Op is based pretty much wholly on Slender Man, just wanted to clarify if there was an concrete connection in-game, otherwise it's not safe basing any theories on other slender sources. I've seen a few posts recently where people have pointed out Slender Man's connection with child-murder as a relevant point, but if this isn't necessarily that Slender Man than connections like that are irrelevant, and could even lead folks in completely the wrong direction.

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8bitFilk wrote:
Acora wrote:
Moon wrote:
So, I came up with a new theory today while scrolling through the pages that I missed...

Going on what someone said earlier, about Slendy trying to keep Jay away from whatever is wounded/injured: what if Slendy is a protector instead of malicious like everyone automatically jumped to? Someone hinted at this a few pages back but didn't elaborate. It could make sense. The "unless I've done something that I don't know about" foreshadowing, the fact that the only recorded footage of the bloody tunnel and bloody cloth that Jay has (as far as we know) only see him looking at it and freaking out...I dunno, guys. It's plausible.
I don't think that Slendy is benevolent in the least. If he was, he wouldn't be having so many detrimental effects on the health of the people he stalks (memory loss, coughing, ect), and he definitely wouldn't have done whatever he did in Entry 14.


But it's only theory (albeit a pretty compelling one) that it's Slendy causing the ill health anyway. I've wondered on a few occasions if maybe SM is completely neutral. I mean, obviously he's part of what's going on, but maybe he's only present. We've never seen him do anything but hang around and look creepy.



^this is exactly what I was thinking. You never see him actually INJURING anybody. Just people looking weird/hurt/tranced out while he's around. There's only speculation as to what he actually does or if he actually causes this. Slendy sickness was only a theory and it was used a lot and is very realistic, but maybe it's not real. Or maybe it is real, and he can't help it? I dunno. I'm really digging this protection thing. It's totally out of left field.
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