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AKLY
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badluckshadow13 wrote:
Dude... have you ever watched porn? Men have been objectified at least as long as there's been porn. The focus is totally always on the chick, you could put a strap-on on a mannequin and call out the guy, and no one would notice. Dudes are like... meat-puppets in porn.


Um. Everyone is objectified in porn. Like, everyone. The focus may be on the woman, but that's only because the men watching are supposed to be fapping to her, not because she's being upheld as a paragon of virtue or an amazing genius or something. She's just meat to be JO'd to.

Not really worried about the sex jokes (though they are eyerolly and immature and I see why some people are irked by them), but the men-in-porn argument has always bothered me for the reasons I said above.

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Sorry for my lack of posts lately, I dropped of the map (read: went to mexico for couple o'months)

Jessica talking on her phone could have been a ruse. She might not have been talking to anyone at all but using it as a convient "i'm not just standing here lurking, i'm actually doing something".

Also does anyone else get the feeling that mysteries like the bullet, sink blood, etc. will never be explained.



Undertheark wrote:
Pretty damn sure that's been posted before but thanks for the contribution Smile I am glad to see that we are all working together.


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Undertheark wrote:
DandA wrote:
I think that its too early to judge Jessica. Especially because the distortions barely there, and its not like we're seeing coughing fits and pills. Maybe they had her on the phone in the hallway so that she could talk to Jay and we could find out why she was there- not because she was spying on him. Plus she seems really normal. Like way more normal than any recurring character thus far.

I know I'd be weirded out if I kept running into this guy with a camera (esp. if he seems kinda familiar and you couldn't place it.) who seems to be living in a hotel room for no real reason other than "making a documentary about a hotel". Not to mention Jay probably comes off kinda creepy (he's kinda awkward). Plus he did knock on her connecting door at night- which would be really weird for me if I didn't know about the banging noises.


Yes but if you watch the Entry with the interview with Timmasky, he has a similar distortion. He seems to have a much more prominent effect on the camera when he directly looks it in the lens but for all we know Jess could be inflicted with Slender sickness.



if the distortion is similar to tim, maybe shes skully? also, we do hear her coughing a lot before opening the door


Sorry for the double but, we have discussed that it could be possible Slendersickness. I'm not entirely sure about what in the earth she IS apart from a girl (ofc T_T) but we have NO reason to believe she is Skully unless we get some more info. I can put it on my Theories thread if you want? (That is that Jess could be Skully)


Now this really pisses me off. You can't just shut down a valid point because YOU feel it's been discussed or dismissed. There's no reason to believe she ISN"T Skully unless we get some more info so kindly stfu
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badluckshadow13 wrote:
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badluckshadow13 wrote:
could work, we've seen, what, three mask variations? Our original, the slightly different one, and skully.


Uh, there's just been Masky and Skully. What are you talking about?

I took a break during the interval between seasons, but I distinctly recall the discussing that the eyes and eyebrows were different in one of the videos.
Of course, that could just be the cast buying more than one mask incase one was damaged, I imagine it's incredibly difficult too perfectly recreate a mask like that, as evidenced by the fanart thread.


Are you thinking about Entry ######? 'Cause that's just different distortions

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No more responses to the objectification posts.

We have heard the same points posted repeatedly by different users.

We get it.

If someone continues, then shun them.

Problem solved.

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Can we get, like, stills of the other supposed maskys, or direction to where they might be found? Because that sounds like it might involve a lot of combing to find otherwise.

And also, I know I might get slapped down, but I was looking at a still of skully the other day and, well, I just don't know if what's pictured is actually a mask. If you look at the right side of the screen you can see that it's shaped kind of strangely for a mask, and the "head" behind it seems slightly anomalous, too. What if it's some kind of emblem meant to frighten the person watching the tape, rather than some new masked force for us to all speculate to death on? Just a thought, I acknowledge heartily that I might in fact be wrong.

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Deimos wrote:
Sorry for my lack of posts lately, I dropped of the map (read: went to mexico for couple o'months)

Jessica talking on her phone could have been a ruse. She might not have been talking to anyone at all but using it as a convient "i'm not just standing here lurking, i'm actually doing something".

Also does anyone else get the feeling that mysteries like the bullet, sink blood, etc. will never be explained.



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Sorry for the double but, we have discussed that it could be possible Slendersickness. I'm not entirely sure about what in the earth she IS apart from a girl (ofc T_T) but we have NO reason to believe she is Skully unless we get some more info. I can put it on my Theories thread if you want? (That is that Jess could be Skully)


Now this really pisses me off. You can't just shut down a valid point because YOU feel it's been discussed or dismissed. There's no reason to believe she ISN"T Skully unless we get some more info so kindly stfu
Yeah, I kinda get the feeling that the smaller mysteries from series 1 won't ever be explained, though I still hope that they are.

As to Under, I agree. I mean, he's right that this has already been discussed, but that isn't a basis for disregarding the question. However, he is right. Until we gain more information, speculating that Jessica is Skully will almost certainly be fruitless. If, at some point, we get more information that points in this direction of thought, then it'll be more viable to focus on it.

And there I go being all super serious about shit.
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Well, we apparently are getting off topic. Discussion of the possibility of 2 masky masks would be more on topic in this thread.

Now then, I finally had enough time to do some analysis of Jessica's phone call. I added what I thought I heard to my transcript, but I am putting it in this post as well so you don't need to go find my transcript.

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0:16-0:21
Jessica: "Yeah, but they didn't. I wouldn't let them."

Jessica listens to the person on the phone.

Jessica: "I did?"


Attached is my "cleaned" up version of the audio. I would be most appreciative if Droshi could work to get a more clear version of Jessica's conversation as he did so well with Entry #29 audio.
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Makdee wrote:
Well, we apparently are getting off topic. Discussion of the possibility of 2 masky masks would be more on topic in this thread.

Now then, I finally had enough time to do some analysis of Jessica's phone call. I added what I thought I heard to my transcript, but I am putting it in this post as well so you don't need to go find my transcript.

Quote:

0:16-0:21
Jessica: "Yeah, but they didn't. I wouldn't let them."

Jessica listens to the person on the phone.

Jessica: "I did?"


Attached is my "cleaned" up version of the audio. I would be most appreciative if Droshi could work to get a more clear version of Jessica's conversation as he did so well with Entry #29 audio.

I'll give it a go a little later today! I don't think noise removal is going to have very much of an effect, but I'll at least try to eliminate part of the ambient noise in order to make things a little easier.

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Droshi wrote:
I'll give it a go a little later today! I don't think noise removal is going to have very much of an effect, but I'll at least try to eliminate part of the ambient noise in order to make things a little easier.


I'll hit it in a bit too, help out some. I've had some luck with some of the earlier entries this season.

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This is pretty much the best I could do. There is so much noise coming from Jay conveniently as she speaks that noise removal could only go so far.

I ended up starting the process by doing click removal, which got rid of a lot of the loud pops. Then I amplified it and did a couple of noise removal passes. You still can't hear her very well, and trying to remove any more noise started to get rid of her voice.

Regardless, here is what I got. I can hear enough now to gather that her call got dropped right after the first thing she says. She says "Honey?" once, possibly twice before helping Jay with his bags.

Her call being dropped adds to the theory that she is in the same position as Jay, but it's still hard to tell. What do you think? You wanna give it a go, Leo?
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Expect mine later tonight- I got trapped in to going to church for the evening. Soon as I get home I'll jump it.

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Why thank you for doing that Droshi. It made me aware of a few tones that I accidentally filtered out.

The adjusted transcript is as follows:
Quote:

Jessica: "Yeah, but I didn't do it. I wasn't drinking."

Jessica listens to the person on the phone.

Jessica: "I did?"


The "I did?" could be confused with "Honey?" However, after re-listening to that bit over and over again, I feel that "I did?" makes more sense based upon, pacing, inflection, and context.

I am ready to make a speculation based upon the information we have from this entry. Jessica was kicked out of her apartment for doing something she does not remember doing. It was probably related to the banging we hear coming from her room.

I'm still looking forward to Dr. Leonard Mengele's analysis.

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Makdee wrote:
Why thank you for doing that Droshi. It made me aware of a few tones that I accidentally filtered out.

The adjusted transcript is as follows:
Quote:

Jessica: "Yeah, but I didn't do it. I wasn't drinking."

Jessica listens to the person on the phone.

Jessica: "I did?"


The "I did?" could be confused with "Honey?" However, after re-listening to that bit over and over again, I feel that "I did?" makes more sense based upon, pacing, inflection, and context.

I am ready to make a speculation based upon the information we have from this entry. Jessica was kicked out of her apartment for doing something she does not remember doing. It was probably related to the banging we hear coming from her room.

I'm still looking forward to Dr. Leonard Mengele's analysis.

That sounds about right, but I'd like to see if we can remove a little bit more of the racket Jay is making. There is so much noise when she is saying the first part that it could or could not be other sounds forming the words we hear. For instance, "drinking" sounds like it might just be background noise overlapped with what she was saying. The problem is, trying to remove those noises has ended up removing all or part of what she is saying there.

Edit: Upon closer inspection, the best I can hear is "Yeah I did, but I wasn't drinking! ... Honey?"

The word drinking just isn't jumping out at me, though. I feel like that's what I can sense her saying, but the audio is just too overpowering right there. It does sound like she's saying "I did?" but assuming she doesn't just suck at pretending to be on the phone, there wasn't much time for a response after "I wasn't drinking!"

To me, it sounds like she was trying to plea her case to her boyfriend who kicked her out and he hung up on her.

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Makdee wrote:
Why thank you for doing that Droshi. It made me aware of a few tones that I accidentally filtered out.

The adjusted transcript is as follows:
Quote:

Jessica: "Yeah, but I didn't do it. I wasn't drinking."

Jessica listens to the person on the phone.

Jessica: "I did?"


The "I did?" could be confused with "Honey?" However, after re-listening to that bit over and over again, I feel that "I did?" makes more sense based upon, pacing, inflection, and context.

I am ready to make a speculation based upon the information we have from this entry. Jessica was kicked out of her apartment for doing something she does not remember doing. It was probably related to the banging we hear coming from her room.

I'm still looking forward to Dr. Leonard Mengele's analysis.

That kind of explains her sudden 'distaste' for J as soon as he asked her about the racket. She seemed to go from confused to pissed off pretty quickly around that time, in my opinion.

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Droshi wrote:

That sounds about right, but I'd like to see if we can remove a little bit more of the racket Jay is making. There is so much noise when she is saying the first part that it could or could not be other sounds forming the words we hear. For instance, "drinking" sounds like it might just be background noise overlapped with what she was saying. The problem is, trying to remove those noises has ended up removing all or part of what she is saying there.


Actually, the first syllable is too distorted to distinguish very well. It sounds more like "thinking" than "drinking." However, based on context "drinking" makes much more sense and the sharp "t" sound is probably due to the background noise.

Anyway, if anyone has access to Matlab they could write a program to remove Jessica's voice from the background noise to a higher degree of accuracy.


Here is some more speculation:
Jessica is talking to a friend on the cellphone about her being kicked out of her apartment.
Her friend says that she probably did it while blacked out due to drinking.
Jessica protests by saying she did not do it and was not drinking during the time of her blackout.
Her friend states that Jessica did something to prove it was her.
Jessica gives a confused response "I did?"

Jessica is telling the truth about being kicked out of her apartment, what is more, it appears she is totally unaware of the Operator.

Edit:I really do not think she is saying "honey?". We need more people's opinion to come to an agreement or a more cleaned up audio.

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