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tokloid
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Joined: 09 Nov 2003 Posts: 1
[NEW] We found the Emerson CD from Indy [Nov 8] I have the CD of Emerson from Indy. My brother lives there reserved the book on the list. After getting the book he was suprised there was a CD in it. We will post it sunday. More details tomorrow.
tokloid
Sunday November 9, 2003
The book " Wisdom of the body" is now back on it's way back to the Indy Library. I got all the information that I could physically find in it. I recommend anyone who knows about some of the books that influenced the Matrix movies try to find them. I saw the video about the making of the Matrix a while back and the mentioned alot of different books that I can't find in the library or the bookstore.
I hope the stuff I gave you guys gives you the answers. I give thanks to Cabo Cliff for getting the book out of Indy. Good luck everyone!
Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2003 1:02 am
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Ehsan
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Joined: 09 May 2003 Posts: 992
I take it you are trip's friend and are talking about the same CD mentioned in this thread , correct? If so you should discuss this in the same thread..
EDIT: Other thread locked based on trip's request. Continue here.
Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2003 1:11 am
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trip
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I'm going to post this information to the thread started by my friend tokloid to give him a little credit. So mods can close my other thread and we'll stick with this one, ok Ehsan?
Firstly, my friend has scanned in the images of his CD. I can tell you that the word "Emerson" on the Indy CD looks like different handwriting than the word "Emerson" written on the Chicago CD. But the other writing (Please do not remove, scavenger hunt) look exactly the same as my CD, and as Ethan (and perhaps also Ryan's) handwriting. I will try to get my CD scanned today so you can compare.
Front of CD envelope: http://metacortex.netninja.com/ethan/indianapolis_extras/diskSide1.jpg
Back of CD envelope: http://metacortex.netninja.com/ethan/indianapolis_extras/diskside2.jpg
Secondly, my friend found leaves actually stuck into the book. As if someone was trying to dry press them. These leaves immediately bring to mind the leaf image at: http://thenekodas.com/ (as pointed out by BrianEnigma). But, I think they are a different KIND of leaf. Not sure what that means.
Leaves left in Indy book: http://metacortex.netninja.com/ethan/indianapolis_extras/bookleaves.jpg
thenekodas leaves: http://thenekodas.com/
My friend also scanned the pages that the leaves were placed in, in case they were important. I will link them here.
Leaf placement 1: http://metacortex.netninja.com/ethan/indianapolis_extras/leafmark1.jpg
Leaf placement 2: http://metacortex.netninja.com/ethan/indianapolis_extras/leafMark2.jpg
Leaf placement 3: http://metacortex.netninja.com/ethan/indianapolis_extras/leafmark3.jpg
Leaf placement 4: http://metacortex.netninja.com/ethan/indianapolis_extras/leafmark4.jpg
Thanks to BrianEnigma again for hosting my stuff!
trip
Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2003 2:09 pm
BrianEnigma
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trip wrote:
Secondly, my friend found leaves actually stuck into the book. As if someone was trying to dry press them. These leaves immediately bring to mind the leaf image at: http://thenekodas.com/ (as pointed out by BrianEnigma). But, I think they are a different KIND of leaf. Not sure what that means.
Yeah, now that I am staring at a picture of the leaves, they certainly seem different--three pointed leaves in the book, as opposed to the five pointed leaves on the website. Still odd, though.
Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2003 2:13 pm
trip
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I do find it interesting though that Ryan (who we think is the pre-memory-drained Ethan, right?) does something with leaves as does Ethan.
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Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2003 2:29 pm
Lucent
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Isn't that a maple leaf? The same leaf on Canada's flag?
Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2003 2:34 pm
trip
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The E's look the same... but the P's may look different. Thoughts?
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Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2003 2:39 pm
Insomniac
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Joined: 14 Oct 2003 Posts: 234 Location: 01
trip wrote:
The E's look the same... but the P's may look different. Thoughts?
First two sets of hand writing look pretty similar but the last one maybe slightly different?
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Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2003 2:52 pm
joebrent
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Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Posts: 640 Location: New York, sometimes
Anyone else think it's significant that it was placed in the middle of chapters called The Will to Live :
"...6 was filled with the euphoria of having saved a life. "
Sympathy and the Nervous System
contains picture very reminiscent of Second Rennaisance Part 2 where they were putting the nodes into their brain stem
The Act of Love
The male orgasm can occur without ejaculation and ejaculation can occur without orgasm, but generally they take place together (ok, that doesn't have much to do with anything)
and A Child is Born
...with the appearance of progressively more complex mental abilities (involving larger brains and birth at an even less ready stage), it took longer and longer for the newborn's thinking patterns to mature and for enough learning to occur that they might be assimilated into social systems that primates were building.
OK, so it's obvious they were placed in specific pages. Perhaps Labyrinth is just an AI program designed to trick the cortex into achieving orgasm without ejaculation? I volunteer to be a beta tester!
Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2003 2:58 pm
yanka
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Joined: 06 Oct 2003 Posts: 1214 Location: undesirable
The leaves look remarkably similar to me. Which confuses me SO much more (I've been trying to sort this plotline out) - how could Ryan Emerson, while still Ryan Emerson, have to do anything with the Nekodas' leaves BEFORE he is brainwashed or whatever into thinking himself being Ethan? I mean, nothing about Nekodas even existed at that point (at least not in his brain).
It could be that this person (Ethan/Ryan) is just into maple (or whatever they are) leaves, and that remains in Ethan's memory, so he uses the leaves on his home page...
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Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2003 3:54 pm
Insomniac
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Whatever happened these leaves definitely seal the connection between Emerson and Ethan for me.
_________________"I find it kind of funny, I find it kind of sad.
The dreams in which I'm dying are the best I've ever had."
Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2003 3:56 pm
Tobester
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trip wrote:
The E's look the same... but the P's may look different. Thoughts?
the 'N'and the ''A" are definitely written differently in the second and third note
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Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2003 5:29 pm
bakntime
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Joined: 31 Oct 2003 Posts: 462 Location: back in time
Don't take this the wrong way, but I think you guys are over-analyzing the writing on the notes/CDs way too much. It's obvious that there are several people working on this game in different parts of the country, and that explains any differences.
For the sake of the "game", I think it's pretty safe for us to "pretend" that all the CDs recovered so far are identical, including any handwriting.
Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2003 5:32 pm
aqualung1105
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Joined: 16 Oct 2003 Posts: 55
bakntime wrote:
Don't take this the wrong way, but I think you guys are over-analyzing the writing on the notes/CDs way too much. It's obvious that there are several people working on this game in different parts of the country, and that explains any differences.
For the sake of the "game", I think it's pretty safe for us to "pretend" that all the CDs recovered so far are identical, including any handwriting.
Iīm not sure I agree - if the PMīs wanted us to see identical CDs they would have had no problem getting the same guy to write on all of them. In fact, on the Indy-CD cover it says "see other side" a.s.o in Emersonīs handwriting, whereas the name on the CD itself is in another hand writing - I think itīs done on purpose...but thatīs just me...
Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2003 7:06 pm
Vargr
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Joined: 09 Nov 2003 Posts: 29 Location: Indianapolis, IN
Re: [NEW] We found the Emerson CD from Indy [Nov 8]
tokloid wrote:
I have the CD of Emerson from Indy. My brother lives there reserved the book on the list. After getting the book he was suprised there was a CD in it. We will post it sunday. More details tomorrow.
Well done! I live in Indianapolis, and I learned of the book only today. I was planning on trying to get it tomorrow.
Vargr
Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2003 12:01 am
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