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ReverendJ
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Frost_King wrote:
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I bowed out please don't pull me back in unless you just want to see me make other people spin their wheels.

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AbyssalRook
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twistedpuppet wrote:
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I had no intention of game jacking.
Also I have been here longer then 1 day Wink.

Also DHawk314 the person whose translation of the tweet I used has been here more then 1 day.


Checked your story. It's only looking to me like you created a sock account and then posted the same video to a different thread 8 minutes later. Way to go. You derailed 2 threads because you mistook garbage for something legit.
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Holy crap I'm a sock account!? I...I...I never knew! All this time I thought I was a real, thinking individual! With a brain! But I've been ReverandJ this whole time!

My life is now meaningless. The good news is that I can go do whatever the hell I want, and then when I get arrested for more vandalism and assault charges than I can count I can tell the cops "Oh, I'm just a sock account for some guy on the internet I've never met."

In a way, it's kind of a weight off of my shoulders.



Anyway, yeah, if you've got a better solution, I'll gladly hear it, but raging at the simplest explanation that fits for multiple reasons isn't helping your credibility, and it isn't helping us find the 'real' solution if we're all wrong. If you can find a better solution that doesn't link to another youtube video and brings to light a new solution to the riddle that somehow has more meaning, I will personally bow down and worship you and how correct you are.

Until then, try being more productive and helpful rather than belligerent and catty, because so far you've already been wrong about one thing (That is me being a sock account), and that sure hasn't helped your credibility. We're all willing to hear alternate solutions, but this one, in my opinion, is too coincidental to be unrelated.

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My view here is that while its wierd and completely unprecedented for a TTA tweet to link to a video completely outside its own universe, there's at least a reasonable chance.

While gibberish when decoded from base64, it can make up part of a Youtube URL which actually answers a question that's been encoded in base64 in a prior tweet.

The likelyhood of something like this being coincidental is extraordinarily slim, especially if its supposed to be a phrase in another cipher as well.

Until proven otherwise, I'm sticking with the hypothesis that its deliberately referring to the video in answer to the question: "how do hands type?"

So here I post this, I will completely disregard my belief that this video is in answer to "How do hands type?" if someone gives me an actual decoded message that's not intelligible. Until then, I will stick with my hypothesis but and be mindful of others.

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Dacad
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Well, I was going to sit this out, since I'm useless at these types of ciphers. That being said, seriously guys, try to be civil.

Maybe that typing video is an elaborate way of saying that hands talk by typing. Maybe it is just some random thing you got when googling a code. I don't know. I won't pretend to know. If you think that maybe "typing" in general is important to solve some code, investigate it from that angle. If you think not, then try deciphering that second tweet your own way. If you get results which look good, post them on here and everyone can compare theirs. Whoever was right can feel good about themselves without being condescending, whoever was wrong can say "wow, I guess I was wrong. As long as we got the answer, though, we all win." If you think everyone but you is stupid, them investigating in their own way and leaving you to yours won't hurt you at all. Ok, I suspect that I'm about to become the most hated person on here, but so be it.

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Teedub
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^ I love you.

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paulisdead18
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Twistedpuppet, if you really want to figure out this code you still insist isn't solved, then why don't you stop arguing about it and try and come up with possible solutions? You're really not contributing to anything other than igniting and re-igniting a stupid argument that started over you getting mad over a response that you took way too personal. I said it last night and I'm going to say it again, seriously, just knock it off.

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Dacad
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Might as well actually try to contribute something:

I agree the video of typing is not important. However, Totheark has used outside material in the past. Right before Masky made his debut, there was a video using something from a BBC show. It is possible that the second tweet was supposed to lead to that typing video (that video has been reached using two different methods). IF that is the case, and I don't know if it is, then the video is not important. Rather, totheark is just telling us to think about typing (which is an answer to his talking hands riddle). Also, I don't personally mind people discussing the totheark video on this thread, and the tweets on the video thread, since I suspect the tweets are meant to decode something in the video.

I only have a laptop, no number key or anything, but I'll see what I can do with typing. I'm working under the assumption that typing is important, but only because that's the only thing I have the vaguest idea of how to try. I've never done ciphers before. If someone else can come up with something that works, well, I really hope they can, because I probably can't. Best of luck to everyone. If we can't solve this code, the Operator wins. Maybe.

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BenJPas
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TO ANYBODY WHO THINKS THE TYPING VIDEO IS NOT RELATED

THIS MEANS YOU, TWISTED PUPPET

Let's do some MATH

Every youtube video has an 11-digit base 64 code at the end of it (0-9, a-z, A-Z, /, +).

Which means that there are 73786976294838206464 unique possible youtube codes. That is quite a lot.

Now, the number of videos actually uploaded onto youtube is a little more difficult to pin down. They don't seem to actually keep track. So let's take a statistic from 2011 that said Youtube had 1 trillion views (http://www.jeffbullas.com/2012/05/23/35-mind-numbing-youtube-facts-figures-and-statistics-infographic/), and just for the sake of having a number, let's say that every one of those people watched a different video. 1 trillion videos. This will more than likely get a number of videos on Youtube much HIGHER than the actual number.

So, what is the chance that a random base 64 11-string code will actually pull up a working video on Youtube? Well, that's a one trillion in 73786976294838206464 chance, or roughly .000001355%. That's about 1 in a hundred million. And remember, I think 1 trillion videos is guessing quite a bit high. The actual chance is probably much lower.

You all are saying that a code on the official Twitter, which when decoded from base 64 (as another code in the same event) gives an 11 character string that has a 1 in 100, 000, 000 chance of even working on youtube, but instead leads to a video that happens to perfectly answer the question "how do hands talk," is some kind of crazy coincidence.

Maybe it is. What a delightful, unintentional red herring for Trosephim if this is the case! Nothing to get insulting or angry about.

But I think Occam's Razor would indicate that we have solved the meaning of the second code. Its meaning is to link us to the video. What we make of it can be discussed, but that video is meant to be linked to, and is meant to be viewed by us.

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Ztakk
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Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Fun Fact: If you run it through a Baconian cyper, it comes out

BBAABAABABABBBA ABBAAAABBAABAABABAABBABABBABAABABABABBABAABAABABABAABAA

TTA IS A SHEEP. SHEEP DON'T HAVE HANDS! SO HE WANTS TO KNOW HOW THEY TALK!!!!


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twistedpuppet
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BenJPas wrote:
TO ANYBODY WHO THINKS THE TYPING VIDEO IS NOT RELATED

THIS MEANS YOU, TWISTED PUPPET

Let's do some MATH

Every youtube video has an 11-digit base 64 code at the end of it (0-9, a-z, A-Z, /, +).

Which means that there are 73786976294838206464 unique possible youtube codes. That is quite a lot.

Now, the number of videos actually uploaded onto youtube is a little more difficult to pin down. They don't seem to actually keep track. So let's take a statistic from 2011 that said Youtube had 1 trillion views (http://www.jeffbullas.com/2012/05/23/35-mind-numbing-youtube-facts-figures-and-statistics-infographic/), and just for the sake of having a number, let's say that every one of those people watched a different video. 1 trillion videos. This will more than likely get a number of videos on Youtube much HIGHER than the actual number.

So, what is the chance that a random base 64 11-string code will actually pull up a working video on Youtube? Well, that's a one trillion in 73786976294838206464 chance, or roughly .000001355%. That's about 1 in a hundred million. And remember, I think 1 trillion videos is guessing quite a bit high. The actual chance is probably much lower.

You all are saying that a code on the official Twitter, which when decoded from base 64 (as another code in the same event) gives an 11 character string that has a 1 in 100, 000, 000 chance of even working on youtube, but instead leads to a video that happens to perfectly answer the question "how do hands talk," is some kind of crazy coincidence.

Maybe it is. What a delightful, unintentional red herring for Trosephim if this is the case! Nothing to get insulting or angry about.

But I think Occam's Razor would indicate that we have solved the meaning of the second code. Its meaning is to link us to the video. What we make of it can be discussed, but that video is meant to be linked to, and is meant to be viewed by us.


You are trying to make the video fit. My point still stands, Troy and company have stated at numerous convention Q&As that they do not use outside anything for the series. That means everything in Marble Hornets is self contained.

Furthermore, when I attempted to decode the codes myself, the method used to decode the first one did not work on the second one. It created a bunch of gibberish. I still posit that if there is NO precedent for TTA to link to a video or website or anything outside of Marble Hornets, then the gibberish from applying the base 64 cipher to the second code is just that; gibberish. We HAVE seen TTA use a different cipher for codes for consecutive codes that he's posted before.

It's looking more and more like we are going to have to use the code from the video in some way to see if we can decode the second code. We're going to have to do it manually because there doesn't appear to be a ready made tool to do it for us. Which sucks, because I'm not good at doing it manually.

I'm not going to consider a random youtube video as the solution when it has been stated before they would not do that.

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BenJPas wrote:
TO ANYBODY WHO THINKS THE TYPING VIDEO IS NOT RELATED

THIS MEANS YOU, TWISTED PUPPET

Let's do some MATH

Every youtube video has an 11-digit base 64 code at the end of it (0-9, a-z, A-Z, /, +).

Which means that there are 73786976294838206464 unique possible youtube codes. That is quite a lot.

Now, the number of videos actually uploaded onto youtube is a little more difficult to pin down. They don't seem to actually keep track. So let's take a statistic from 2011 that said Youtube had 1 trillion views (http://www.jeffbullas.com/2012/05/23/35-mind-numbing-youtube-facts-figures-and-statistics-infographic/), and just for the sake of having a number, let's say that every one of those people watched a different video. 1 trillion videos. This will more than likely get a number of videos on Youtube much HIGHER than the actual number.

So, what is the chance that a random base 64 11-string code will actually pull up a working video on Youtube? Well, that's a one trillion in 73786976294838206464 chance, or roughly .000001355%. That's about 1 in a hundred million. And remember, I think 1 trillion videos is guessing quite a bit high. The actual chance is probably much lower.

You all are saying that a code on the official Twitter, which when decoded from base 64 (as another code in the same event) gives an 11 character string that has a 1 in 100, 000, 000 chance of even working on youtube, but instead leads to a video that happens to perfectly answer the question "how do hands talk," is some kind of crazy coincidence.

Maybe it is. What a delightful, unintentional red herring for Trosephim if this is the case! Nothing to get insulting or angry about.

But I think Occam's Razor would indicate that we have solved the meaning of the second code. Its meaning is to link us to the video. What we make of it can be discussed, but that video is meant to be linked to, and is meant to be viewed by us.


Alright, that is a pretty slim chance of it being a coincidence. I'll go with the video being related.

And while there hasn't been any other channel involved in MH before, it certainly has used footage from other sources multiple times. It's not much of a stretch that they'd use footage now without editing it into the video, especially considering the odds are unlikely that it's a coincidence.

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I'm with Twisted Puppet.
I think.

I don't think that the codes really mean anything, either. You're all looking for quantum mechanical binary reverse Chinese dragon cipher stuff when the reality is it's probably just random numbers. Seriously.

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Re: I'm with Twisted Puppet.
I think.

Serum wrote:
I don't think that the codes really mean anything, either. You're all looking for quantum mechanical binary reverse Chinese dragon cipher stuff when the reality is it's probably just random numbers. Seriously.


o.O

but..

wait..

Are you joking?

1) Twisted is saying they DO mean something just not what we think.

2) They DO mean something. Two things actually. One was directly translated into a question!

3) This is Marble Hornets! Of course people are decoding things.

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Re: I'm with Twisted Puppet.
I think.

censura_umbra wrote:
Serum wrote:
I don't think that the codes really mean anything, either. You're all looking for quantum mechanical binary reverse Chinese dragon cipher stuff when the reality is it's probably just random numbers. Seriously.


o.O

but..

wait..

Are you joking?

1) Twisted is saying they DO mean something just not what we think.

2) They DO mean something. Two things actually. One was directly translated into a question!

3) This is Marble Hornets! Of course people are decoding things.


No, I agree with the first bulletin, I think they mean something totally different than what we think. He's right.

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Re: I'm with Twisted Puppet.
I think.

I think it is impossible that the video was an accident. I think it is the answer to the first question "Hands talk by typing"

I also don't think the video itself is important since it isn't a MH video. I think it is just a clip to give an answer.

However, I agree (or rather I hope) that there is more to the codes. Whether they also lead to some other answer or whether typing/keyboards can somehow give us a clue about the Quadrant codes. I don't know. But there has to be more or else TTA is becoming lame.

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