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wassupbro
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Re: I'm with Twisted Puppet.
I think.

censura_umbra wrote:
I think it is impossible that the video was an accident. I think it is the answer to the first question "Hands talk by typing"

I also don't think the video itself is important since it isn't a MH video. I think it is just a clip to give an answer.

However, I agree (or rather I hope) that there is more to the codes. Whether they also lead to some other answer or whether typing/keyboards can somehow give us a clue about the Quadrant codes. I don't know. But there has to be more or else TTA is becoming lame.


I think thats what everyone arguing against puppet is trying to say

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I still don't know why you looked at the "decoded" message and thought, "youtube!" I'm still chalking this up to coincidence.

Also, Zargg, this is sorta the time you're needed.
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Beidah wrote:
I still don't know why you looked at the "decoded" message and thought, "youtube!" I'm still chalking this up to coincidence.

Also, Zargg, this is sorta the time you're needed.


Because it is exactly the same format and style of a youtube url. And it worked.

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Beidah wrote:
I still don't know why you looked at the "decoded" message and thought, "youtube!" I'm still chalking this up to coincidence.

Also, Zargg, this is sorta the time you're needed.


Because it looked like a youtube link. 11 characters, no symbols is the standard feature of a youtube identification number. Look at any video after the "watch?v=". There will be an 11 digit code, followed possibly by something else to determine how you got to that video. Considering this is a youtube series, it isn't too much of a stretch to look for a youtube video, though frankly I'd have expected a totheark message rather than one about typing...

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Eh, whatever. I still think it's a stretch, but I can't be assed to do anything about it.
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BenJPas wrote:
TO ANYBODY WHO THINKS THE TYPING VIDEO IS NOT RELATED

THIS MEANS YOU, TWISTED PUPPET

Let's do some MATH

Every youtube video has an 11-digit base 64 code at the end of it (0-9, a-z, A-Z, /, +).

Which means that there are 73786976294838206464 unique possible youtube codes. That is quite a lot.

Now, the number of videos actually uploaded onto youtube is a little more difficult to pin down. They don't seem to actually keep track. So let's take a statistic from 2011 that said Youtube had 1 trillion views (http://www.jeffbullas.com/2012/05/23/35-mind-numbing-youtube-facts-figures-and-statistics-infographic/), and just for the sake of having a number, let's say that every one of those people watched a different video. 1 trillion videos. This will more than likely get a number of videos on Youtube much HIGHER than the actual number.

So, what is the chance that a random base 64 11-string code will actually pull up a working video on Youtube? Well, that's a one trillion in 73786976294838206464 chance, or roughly .000001355%. That's about 1 in a hundred million. And remember, I think 1 trillion videos is guessing quite a bit high. The actual chance is probably much lower.

You all are saying that a code on the official Twitter, which when decoded from base 64 (as another code in the same event) gives an 11 character string that has a 1 in 100, 000, 000 chance of even working on youtube, but instead leads to a video that happens to perfectly answer the question "how do hands talk," is some kind of crazy coincidence.

Maybe it is. What a delightful, unintentional red herring for Trosephim if this is the case! Nothing to get insulting or angry about.

But I think Occam's Razor would indicate that we have solved the meaning of the second code. Its meaning is to link us to the video. What we make of it can be discussed, but that video is meant to be linked to, and is meant to be viewed by us.




Technically it is more of a stretch that it is a stretch. See the above quoted math.

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After catching up on this thread, the only pressing question that comes to mind is:

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Where the fuck is Zarggg?


Lol.

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Even though people are kind of being idiots and overly aggressive about this, I sort of agree with Twistedpuppet if the creators OOG have actually stated that, then people are trying desperately to slot their preferred answer as a right one even though in actuality it makes no sense. It's the definition of jumping to conclusions. We haven't solved the code. I believe decoding it from Base64 is the first step in doing so, but there must be some other cypher, and we need to stop being hung up on some random youtube video that is entirely unrelated to the series as a whole and work on decoding an actual freaking code that IS related to the series as a whole.

Another point to why the typing video is probably the wrong conclusion: Solving anything in Marble Hornets has never required you to do anything like this before. This is entirely out of character for both the people IG and OOG in terms of puzzle creation and feels out of place. Stop talking about the friggin' video and start talking about the code. You're looking in the wrong place.

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I am going to continue to work under the assumption that the code in Quadrant somehow uses a keyboard as an answer or cipher.

These people who are so absolutely certain that the keyboard video is not an answer to "how do hands talk" and that the second tweet has not been solved yet should be less concerned with convincing us that our approach is wrong than with trying to figure out another way to solve that second tweet or the Quadrant code.

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censura_umbra wrote:
BenJPas wrote:
TO ANYBODY WHO THINKS THE TYPING VIDEO IS NOT RELATED

THIS MEANS YOU, TWISTED PUPPET

Let's do some MATH

Every youtube video has an 11-digit base 64 code at the end of it (0-9, a-z, A-Z, /, +).

Which means that there are 73786976294838206464 unique possible youtube codes. That is quite a lot.

Now, the number of videos actually uploaded onto youtube is a little more difficult to pin down. They don't seem to actually keep track. So let's take a statistic from 2011 that said Youtube had 1 trillion views (http://www.jeffbullas.com/2012/05/23/35-mind-numbing-youtube-facts-figures-and-statistics-infographic/), and just for the sake of having a number, let's say that every one of those people watched a different video. 1 trillion videos. This will more than likely get a number of videos on Youtube much HIGHER than the actual number.

So, what is the chance that a random base 64 11-string code will actually pull up a working video on Youtube? Well, that's a one trillion in 73786976294838206464 chance, or roughly .000001355%. That's about 1 in a hundred million. And remember, I think 1 trillion videos is guessing quite a bit high. The actual chance is probably much lower.

You all are saying that a code on the official Twitter, which when decoded from base 64 (as another code in the same event) gives an 11 character string that has a 1 in 100, 000, 000 chance of even working on youtube, but instead leads to a video that happens to perfectly answer the question "how do hands talk," is some kind of crazy coincidence.

Maybe it is. What a delightful, unintentional red herring for Trosephim if this is the case! Nothing to get insulting or angry about.

But I think Occam's Razor would indicate that we have solved the meaning of the second code. Its meaning is to link us to the video. What we make of it can be discussed, but that video is meant to be linked to, and is meant to be viewed by us.




Technically it is more of a stretch that it is a stretch. See the above quoted math.


That's more statistics than math. The thing about the world though, is that there are thousands of "coincidences" happening all the time. Just because something has a low chance of happening does mean that it's impossible. If it keeps happening, though, somethings up, but this is a one-time thing. Totally plausible.
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Statistics is 100% math.

Also I simply said it was a stretch. Which since the probability is extremely low, it IS a stretch

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Stats is the social science of the math world. The thing about it is that the number are much more reliant on context and can be interpreted in different ways. This is why marketers love statistics so much, they can be completely factual, but also entirely misleading.
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You are right. But in this case. It is just the regular old probability of something happening. and that probability is extremely low.

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If I may-
I believe fully that it is possible that there is another solution, and that unless we get a definite confirmation from Jay/Troy that this solution is correct, we should continue looking for other possibilities in the meantime.

I also believe that all things considered, the video probably is the solution.
Disagree? Fair enough, but please stop raging incessantly at the people who disagree with you. You've made your case, we've all heard it on multiple threads. You don't need to keep repeating your points over and over again, and certainly not so angrily. No one is being hurt by a few people believing a wrong solution.

In other words:


On a side note, has anyone contacted Jay/Troy about this? Surely the best way to settle this would be to just try to get a direct confirmation, no?

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You guys are so stupid. The first code was a base64 code. The second code in base64 goes to a YouTube video. The chances of that being a coincidence are so close to zero. It's not just like, oh hey what a coincidence, close to zero chance, it's like, the level of close to zero that scientists say are negligible when they dp experiments. It's virtually impossible, and modifer of virtually is really just a technicality. Anyone who knows anything about statistics will tell you there's no way.

Also, this doesn't count as a contradiction to the OOG statement that there won't be other YouTube channels, like at all really. No one's implying Troy uploaded the stupid computer video, they're implying that Troy wanted the answer to the first tweet to be a keyboard so he Googled keyboard video or something and had totheark link to it. That's not even remotely implausible, at all. That's like saying Jay can't reply to tweets on Twitter because that links to other people's Twitters so it's not "self contained" enough.
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