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[LOCKED] EverymanHYBRID 2011
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sje46
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It's not necessarily that I want it to end soon...I just want it to have a definite direction to go in. It seems like they're just opening up no questions without answering any. They need to identify an end-game and start working towards it, and they need to announce it through something relatively huge. I'm fine with EMH having seasons, even, as long as they, at some point, end the season through closing a lot of these mysteries, so we can get some amount of closure.

As to what someone said about Steph being brought in so we can feel as though she's part of the four without being too attached to her...that may be the intent, but this is a Slender story, and a Slender story has to end in a bad ending. At least one of the main characters has to die. It would be lame if everyone but bit characters survived. I'm sure Ryan was a nice dude, but I don't care about his death, really. Doesn't emotionally impact me.

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sje46 wrote:
It's not necessarily that I want it to end soon...I just want it to have a definite direction to go in. It seems like they're just opening up no questions without answering any. They need to identify an end-game and start working towards it, and they need to announce it through something relatively huge. I'm fine with EMH having seasons, even, as long as they, at some point, end the season through closing a lot of these mysteries, so we can get some amount of closure.

As to what someone said about Steph being brought in so we can feel as though she's part of the four without being too attached to her...that may be the intent, but this is a Slender story, and a Slender story has to end in a bad ending. At least one of the main characters has to die. It would be lame if everyone but bit characters survived. I'm sure Ryan was a nice dude, but I don't care about his death, really. Doesn't emotionally impact me.
Yeah, if Ryan's death was supposed to affect us, then he should have been in more than one prior video.

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I don't think Ryan's death was supposed to be emotional for us, so much as a gamechanger - the Rake is now killing people close to them.

I've spoken often of my white-hot hatred for, say, Lost and shows which just bullshit along with question after question, meandering with no direction and a lot of pseudo-intellectualism to cover up their lack of focus. But I don't think that's what EMH is. I think they know exactly what they're doing and I think they know where they're going, so I'm willing to wait.

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Well it's supposed to show us that Slendy means business, sure, but it would be more effective if he actually killed off someone a little more important. I just get annoyed with most Hollywood blockbusters because I know pretty much all the main characters will survive, so there's no real tension.
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Cloverfield was great though. I had a crush on Marlena...why did SHE have to be the one who died?!


But yeah, it would register more as a gamecharger if it was someone we actually were emotionally connected with. Even if it's just Sparky.

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I've spoken often of my white-hot hatred for, say, Lost and shows which just bullshit along with question after question, meandering with no direction and a lot of pseudo-intellectualism to cover up their lack of focus. But I don't think that's what EMH is. I think they know exactly what they're doing and I think they know where they're going, so I'm willing to wait.
I certainly hope so. I'm a patient person myself. I just see this as getting more and more convoluted. Hopefully it will all play off spectacularly.

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Oh, Cloverfield. I thought the film was just so-so, and once again built on the very successful JJ Abrams/Bad Robot machine of intense viral marketing + cheap rote romantic pathos and almost no actual original story. This was never more evident than when I sat and listened to the director explain to me the many facets of his exotic giant monster, none of which were actually evident or discussed in the film that was released or shooting script. I guess I should have gone to one of the 18 websites, but when you're going to tell a story in a movie maybe you should, I don't know, put it in the movie.[/hater] I loved the monster, and Lizzy Caplan and Jessica Lucas(?), but I thought the whole thing was such a blah letdown. The only Bad Robot product I have actually enjoyed was the Star Trek reboot. I thought that was just right, what it needed to be.

Topic: I think EMH is better than Cloverfield. You see? We came full circle.

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Oh, it wasn't a great film. That was just the only semi-recent summer blockbuster movie I could think of in which one of the main characters died, and not "doughy guy with 8 lines in the film". Then again I don't tend to watch those movies anyway.

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Well. He's not one of the Fairmount Four, but I'm pretty sure that Alex is still doomed to be Rake'd.

He would have been taken out by now if it wasn't for the the memory stick sent to Evan.

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Well. He's not one of the Fairmount Four, but I'm pretty sure that Alex is still doomed to be Rake'd.

He would have been taken out by now if it wasn't for the the memory stick sent to Evan.


Oh, God, that's right. So it probably had nothing to do with us.

But who sent the stick? Who would want him alive? Unless HABIT just decided to fuck around?

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Well. It depends a lot on how the Rake operates.

I personally believe that the Rake is an independent contractor who is under HABIT's employ.

We're not really sure why the Rake was stalking Alex. The "brother brother" jazz we heard from him might indicate that he was there just to seperate the Four from their emotional attachments(Jessa, now Alex)...so maybe Slendy's doing? Or he was there by himself.

Assuming Habit is behind the Hidden videos, we know he has access to footage and his own shots(the open-eyed shot of Jeff in the last one), so it's reasonable to assume he set up the security cameras. Hell, the last hidden video was basically telling us that Jeff was too busy worrying about Jessa to notice Alex's problem. Sending the security footage to Evan might have been the only way for Habit to stop the Rake(and spoil whatever his game is)


I honestly don't know. We dont' have enough puzzle pieces when it comes to this.

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Ouroborus wrote:
Assuming Habit is behind the Hidden videos, we know he has access to footage and his own shots(the open-eyed shot of Jeff in the last one), so it's reasonable to assume he set up the security cameras. Hell, the last hidden video was basically telling us that Jeff was too busy worrying about Jessa to notice Alex's problem. Sending the security footage to Evan might have been the only way for Habit to stop the Rake(and spoil whatever his game is)


But HABIT doesn't want or need to stop the Rake. He's spoken of it as though it was on his (and SM's) side - called it "Snoopy." He is colluding with SM, and he is likely the one who set the Rake on Ryan when he didn't play along. I think he's responsible for at least some of the hidden videos and I think he does it all to taunt us and them.

The Rake does not strike me as having much in the way of intellect. I think for the purposes of EMH it's largely a weapon to be set on targets. So why is Alex alive? Maybe HABIT felt like prolonging the torment.

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I honestly don't know. We dont' have enough puzzle pieces when it comes to this.


True.

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It could be that Anti-Habit I postulated a while back.
Alternatively, Habit is Anti-Habit. He's only acting like a bad guy for some reason. I mean, his defining evil act is that he killed Ryan, right? But the Rake killed Ryan. Habit only gave an order or something like that. And Habit has claimed to do all sorts of heinous things, but we have only his word.
I realize this is silly. Habit is an antagonist. It's just that he seems to do plenty of helpful things too and I don't get it.

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Lewa wrote:
It could be that Anti-Habit I postulated a while back.
Alternatively, Habit is Anti-Habit. He's only acting like a bad guy for some reason. I mean, his defining evil act is that he killed Ryan, right? But the Rake killed Ryan. Habit only gave an order or something like that. And Habit has claimed to do all sorts of heinous things, but we have only his word.
I realize this is silly. Habit is an antagonist. It's just that he seems to do plenty of helpful things too and I don't get it.


Well, it all depends on what his real agenda is, doesn't it? It looks conflicting to us, but it all facilitates Habit reaching his goals.
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As far as Habit being buddy-buddy with Slendy and the Rake being "Snoopy", I think we're working under the idea that HABIT might be a little over his head in this deal and is 'running his mouth' a bit. I don't doubt at all that Ryan was Rake'd at HABIT's bidding...but we don't really know the relationship that HABIT and the Rake have. Is it a Master/Slave thing...or is the Rake the hired muscle?

If it's the latter, maybe he had to promise him one of his "fishes". As far as we can tell, Alex is expendable to Habit and Slendy's designs...so he was the promise. And then, for whatever reason, HABIT backed out and found a way to weasel out. I don't know.

I do think there is some significance to the whispers we heard from the Rake, but I don't know what it is yet.

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IIRC, HABIT didn't exactly credit the Rake with high intelligence or a capacity to get the things done that he and SM could, like using a computer or Twitter. I think the Rake attacked Alex until it was told to stop, but I may be selling the poor darling short. Cue sad Rake art.

HABIT is a bragger and I think he is trying to shit talk SM (as we saw in the kitchen) in order to puff himself up. But we don't know how long that association has gone on. And now, once again, I am really talking about nothing.

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B'OW HOLY CRAP EPILEPTIC TREE TIME!

Watching too much Buffy, thinking about the reality-altering that went on in Season 6 (I think) with Dawn.

There's some reality-warping going on in EMH, I think that much may be clear. And it may also be that the Mining Town Four have had reality altered around them for some reason, which has put them in their early twenties in 2011, despite having been born in the seventies (right? My recollection on the details of the Corenthal letters is a bit hazy at the moment). So the question remains, where the fuck did Alex come from if he's not part of the Four?

ALEX IS TO JEFF WHAT DAWN IS TO BUFFY! *puts on sunglasses* YYYEEEEEAAAAAAAAH!!!!!

/epileptictree

Please continue having rational discussions now.

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