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Ouroborus
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*shrug*

back to the tweets. I know we have discerned two seperate entities Uppercase(HABIT) and lowercase(Slenderman?)

Have you noticed that the Uppercase tweets themselves seem to be of two different types? At first, they seem more elegant, polite...almost poetic in content. But some of the other tweets(as with the ones from the HABIT account) are a lot more crass and use shoddy vernacular.

I don't want to say that I'm claiming that there are actually 3 unsigned tweeters. I think what I'm getting at is that maybe the "tone" of the tweet depends on who is actually tweeting them. Going of the probable assumption that Habit posesses, maybe it's Jeff, who has displayed that he's quite proper with his tweets at times...who is at first posting. And as time goes on and we get closer to the trials, it's the more bold and crass Evan who is the host?

Or maybe more of HABIT's personality was just coming out over time...

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Ouroborus wrote:
Have you noticed that the Uppercase tweets themselves seem to be of two different types? At first, they seem more elegant, polite...almost poetic in content. But some of the other tweets(as with the ones from the HABIT account) are a lot more crass and use shoddy vernacular.

I don't want to say that I'm claiming that there are actually 3 unsigned tweeters. I think what I'm getting at is that maybe the "tone" of the tweet depends on who is actually tweeting them. Going of the probable assumption that Habit posesses, maybe it's Jeff, who has displayed that he's quite proper with his tweets at times...who is at first posting. And as time goes on and we get closer to the trials, it's the more bold and crass Evan who is the host?

Or maybe more of HABIT's personality was just coming out over time...


I have noticed what you're talking about but I think that's just HABIT shifting as the moods strike him. I also think it's a bit of Evan's crass humor infringing at times, given that he is likely the host and possibly the progenitor. The talk about Snoopy and "rubbin' elbows" sounds exactly like him. Again, that depends on where one of them stops and the other begins. It's possible HABIT's mode of expression changes depending on who he's inhabiting, and it's a neat idea, but I still think Evan is the primary and the one he does most of the tweeting through, so I am inclined to believe HABIT just has his moods and facets like the rest of us.

The tweets that I think come from people other than Evan are the stream of consciousness one - "HABITHASBITME" - and the one which refers to "we" in relation to HABIT. This suggests, to me at least, that the author is in HABIT's thrall but is not the host, at least not at that moment.

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Ouroborus
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I won't know until I'm somewhere I can access twitter, but I'm very curious about timing of things on 11/4. I'm sure IRL, they guys were able to post the tweets via their phones on the road. But IG, someone had to be able to tweet while in the car(again, assuming the time of the tweets) as HABIT. But someone also had to be Slendy..right? So was it this going on in the car ride back..or was it Alex at Chez Jeff?

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@re: differing tone of the tweets

Curious thing. But you are right. It could be that HABIT takes on some of the characteristics of the host[1]. What's interesting is who? The top candidates for HABIThosts are:

1. Evan,

2. Alex and

3. Dr. Corenthal.

The last one is a bit of a stretch but given that he's important to the story[2] and the contents of an encrypted message[4] -- there's at least some merit to it.

What do you guys think?

@Ouroborus

The timing issue becomes moot if Dr. Corenthal is a HABIThost. Jus' sayin' Wink

[1] Provided there is a host and provided that the method of inHABITation supports such a contingency. I refer you to my long past post on the possible nature of HABIT as a memeplex.
[2] He keeps getting mentioned. Also, if the ARK video is canon[3] we know he is a part of endgame. You could make a case for the good doctor being EMH's most important unseen character.
[3] Which I'm not claiming! Please, let us not have another scrap over this.
[4] OOG I know why the encrypted message was there -- codes are fun. IG that one always puzzled me. Perhaps it is a missive from HABIT who is using codes either because playing cryptography games fits with his Joker-esque playful psychopath persona or because he is Corenthal at this point and he's trying to communicate. He cannot communicate clearly because of inHABITation, so he uses codes to obscure his meaning.

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Ouroborus
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Well. I'd be fine with Dr. C being Habit. Delighted, really. Then we don't have to play the game of "guess who's Habit today!".

Troubling notion if that's true though. We've been operating under the assumption(or at least I have) that Slendy was using a puppet to tweet. If he doesn't. Then how much of the otherstuff should be acredited to him? It's easier with a Habit and/or a puppet to blame.

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Alright, um.... hi! I'm just a lurker who is terrified of making an account due to sounding like an idiot but maybe posting as a guest will soften the blow? Maybe? Hehheh.... sigh.

Not related to the twitter discussion but I just had a thought on the Alex = HABIT theory. Excuse me if it's been brought up before but didn't he say in a message to someone quite awhile back that "[his] dog" was scratching him up at night? Before we had the footage of the rake scratches? I seem to recall people thinking it was pretty silly of him to honestly assume that it was Sparky doing him any damage. Even if he was in denial about anything weird going on.

Was just thinking, if HABIT refers to Rake as "Snoopy", is it possible that Alex was referring to him all along... NOT Sparky?

Also, not relevant to anything really but for the love of bajebus, what the heck is he holding in his Youtube avatar? XD

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Ouroborus wrote:

Assuming Habit is behind the Hidden videos, we know he has access to footage and his own shots(the open-eyed shot of Jeff in the last one), so it's reasonable to assume he set up the security cameras. Hell, the last hidden video was basically telling us that Jeff was too busy worrying about Jessa to notice Alex's problem. Sending the security footage to Evan might have been the only way for Habit to stop the Rake(and spoil whatever his game is)

Now this isn't particularly relevant, but was it ever determined who took this footage? Or was it just plugged into "Habit/someone inHABITed" did it? It's moments like this that I want to go back and rewatch everything. I get completely preoccupied with something else and then forget other elements in the story.

RatheadSyndicate wrote:

ALEX IS TO JEFF WHAT DAWN IS TO BUFFY! *puts on sunglasses* YYYEEEEEAAAAAAAAH!!!!!

You're my favorite.....really. And it was season 5

/latereplyislate

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justlurkin wrote:
Alright, um.... hi! I'm just a lurker who is terrified of making an account due to sounding like an idiot but maybe posting as a guest will soften the blow? Maybe? Hehheh.... sigh.

Not related to the twitter discussion but I just had a thought on the Alex = HABIT theory. Excuse me if it's been brought up before but didn't he say in a message to someone quite awhile back that "[his] dog" was scratching him up at night? Before we had the footage of the rake scratches? I seem to recall people thinking it was pretty silly of him to honestly assume that it was Sparky doing him any damage. Even if he was in denial about anything weird going on.

Was just thinking, if HABIT refers to Rake as "Snoopy", is it possible that Alex was referring to him all along... NOT Sparky?

Also, not relevant to anything really but for the love of bajebus, what the heck is he holding in his Youtube avatar? XD
That almost makes sense. I don't know why Habit would be telling us about the Rake, though.

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Lewa wrote:
That almost makes sense. I don't know why Habit would be telling us about the Rake, though.


The same reason he posted the hidden videos? (If it was indeed Habit who did that.)

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Ouroborus
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Ouroborus wrote:
Until that day...


I rewatched the last UStream and I guess I owe them an apology for saying they glazed over my question about when Steph received that voicemail.

Jeff said it was early September...which is whereabouts of when Jessa was probably snatched/dispatched.


Man, I must have been really tired yesterday. I don't know what I was thinking. Early September is waaaaaaaaay off. Jessa disappeared somewhere between 8/8-8/16! That means that either Steph/Jessa have horrible cell service that delayed a call for nearly a month...or Jessa called Steph a month after she disappeared(OR SLENDY FUCKERY!)

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Pasdio wrote:
Lewa wrote:
That almost makes sense. I don't know why Habit would be telling us about the Rake, though.


The same reason he posted the hidden videos? (If it was indeed Habit who did that.)


I refer you to my tl;dr some pages previous. Smile

Seriously, we have a fairly good explanation for just about anything HABIT does. Slenderman may be inscrutable and the rake feral, but HABIT is easy to understand, on a certain level. HABIT is a game-playing Joker-esque psychopath. The tidbits of information he does send our way are part game, part his compulsive need to show dominance. This may, in fact, be the whole point of the trials. HABIT made us do it, and all that. This kind of behavior is, in a pop-psychological way, something you may expect to form as a result of a traumatic experience. An alternate persona obsessed with control and dominance.

Okay, I'll stop channeling Criminal Minds now. Wink

The hidden videos, though, are another thing. What bugs me about them is footage that appears to come from either the future or Somewhere Else. To get this footage normally you need some serious staging with unwilling actors on unsecured sets -- an unlikely contingency. Right now I'm thinking the videos are either transmitted from outside our own comfortable bubble of space-time[1] or aren't made by a conscious agency, rather they are facets of the true nature of things captured by camera. The latter theory would require the act of recording to be special within our universe.

@re: Dating the voicemail

Honestly, at this juncture more time/space distortion is doesn't surprise me in the slightest. Time and space flee every which way, disregarding your beloved logic, and all that jazz. I don't think we can extract any useful data from this particular instance, unless something interesting happened around September, and I don't think it did.

[1] So they come from the future or a parallel[2] universe.
[2] Well ain't so parallel if video can leak trough. Unless the multiverse space has elliptic geometry. Damn. I knew I should have taken more math. Wink

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By hidden videos, you mean the Morse videos(and the edits), right?


As far as I can tell, we haven't had an instance of those "showing the future".

If you mean WTTA and Slenderman...well, we'll see..right?


As far as time and space, for all the jazz we talk about time travel, we really haven't seen much of it. We're working off the theory that the Fairmount Four are in the present...but that's kind of it. The rest of the time related stuff just seems to be transportation issues.

The only Time-foolery I think we've actually witnessed is whatever went down when they broke out Steph.

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@re: hidden videos

Yes, I mean the Morse code videos. We don't know if they show the future (or even a future) but they do show things that haven't to the best of our knowledge happened. Underwater scenes, Evan & Steph rocking back and forth in rooms with flickering lights and so on. Four options present themselves:

a) The events have taken place and the crew were willing participants, but this information is being hidden from us.
b) The events have taken place, but the crew has been mind-wiped of all memories concerning this.
c) The events will happen, and the videos come from the future.
d) The events may or may not happen, but the videos come from a place where they have.

None of them simplify matters, really. I prefer c) or d) because if so much is being hidden from us (by the EMH crew or by an outside agency) we can hardly believe any information we have. If we can't trust any facts, we can't reason. And if we can't reason, our involvement in the game disappears. EMH looks to be the most ARGy of the Slendervlogs. I doubt they would rip out all the interactivity like this, not after working so hard to enable it.

Then again I'm mixing IG and OOG logic again. Tricky business, that.

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Some of the footage, like Steph and Evan from.... or the various drowning clips, might actually be metaphorical footage that never happened and will not happen somehow being generated on camera.

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We can be sure that some of the footage really happened -- it's confirmed that Jeff really did have that conversation with Maryann Corenthal, and I'm willing to bet that the conversation between Jeff and Vinnie with Evan having a silent temper tantrum in his kitchen really happened as well.

The rest of the footage may well be forshadowing for what's going to happen next. Though if Vinnie does drown I will cry for real.
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