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[SolDL]

[maychorian]

The existence of people who are offended by the existence of trigger warnings offends me. Could you spoiler tag your face? Everywhere?

[sje46]

[SolDL]

The existence of offence at my offence at your offence at my offence at the existence of trigger warnings is offensive, yadda yadda yadda, internet argument, this censorship is terrible and makes you Hitler.

We could keep going around in circles all day and getting all the more worked up about a dicky little forum tag and spouting even more direct attacks on people like the Internet champions of good taste and civility that we are but all I was saying was that, considering the act of sexual abuse is in the production we are discussing, the onus does not lie upon us to censor. So you can call me a child, and I will take that with acceptance, if not understanding, but if I find something silly, I am going to point it out. Simple as that.

I am a little more offended at the censorship of 'cruising', but that's an entirely different kettle of fish.

EDIT: Oh, and I just did some reading on this trigger warning deal to make sure I wasn't being completely unjust with what I'm saying...As I understand it, trigger warnings are to protect those victims of sexual assault from a return to the mindset they were in at the time of the horrors they went through, by hiding, or at least giving a decent amount of outside warning, about any sort of graphic sexual imagery or something else that would trigger it. I understand that this is a term and practice particularly favoured amongst the fanfiction community. And I believe, from what I have read, that it is a good idea.

However in the current instance, the contents of the trigger warning were hardly graphic (perhaps even less so than the warning itself), and that confused my understanding of what was going on: I'll be honest, it just seemed like latent homophobia to me. I do not believe anything I am saying is particularly controversial, and frankly, I am severely worried that the conversation has got so vitriolic.

[qaqa]

I understand the concept of cooperating with "trigger warnings" in fic communities or whatnot that make that a priority. I do understand that, when the "safe space" is created upfront. But I have a problem with applying this to EMH all of a sudden. The series backstory has dealt in boatloads of trauma - dead parents, abuse of all stripes - for months. We've never shied away from discussing it and I don't intend to start now. I also admittedly found it odd that a mention of gay cruising was supposed to be a potential trigger. I have no interest in instituting this kind of caution retroactively and arbitrarily in a fandom that's never called for it. Yes, much of this stuff is horrible - it's horror. So while I get why some spaces work with trigger warnings, I don't think it's appropriate here.

[Luipaard]

Everything qaqa said. Every fucking thing. I'm in those fanfic communities where trigger warnings are common courtesy and if anyone wants to talk to me about it, I will be happy to engage with that person.

But this is not an appropriate venue for that conversation. This is a Slender Man ARG, which means there is violent death, horrific abuse and, if any protagonist is very lucky, complete insanity. We all knew that coming in, and at this point, trigger warnings are useless.

Let's get back to discussing EMH, please? I don't want this place to devolve into what the fanfic community has become. I beg you all to remember that we are friends, and respect one another.

[little_vicious]

Wow. I log on expecting to have people picking apart my theory, not getting disproportionatly upset because I didn't want to inadvertantly ruin someone else's day. I never said anyone else had to hide what they wrote. I also don't particularly care if I offend anyone. I just don't want to harm anyone. As for me being a latent homophobe, I guess that would explain why I surround myself with homosexuals and volunteer with an LGBT choir. People being attracted to things they fear and all.

[ravenofroses]

hey. hey. everyone, be calm. vicious threw out a preposterous and possibly ill-advised theory, and now we should move right the fuck past that and go back to more plausible theories.

[RaptorRed]

[KeithXK]

Your notion about Habit breaking the cycle is interesting.

I also just realized that in the recent canyouseethewords post, the girl mentions that the smiling man with the knife had lots of holes in him from the gun shots, but he was still okay.

Would everyone agree that Evan has been badly injured by Slendy and the Rake many times, and always heals very quickly?

I've avoided thinking that Evan could be inHabited, because it always seemed too easy, and Jeff obviously has tons of issues, and Vince is so silent, but yeah.

I think the ability to heal quickly and easily might be compelling evidence of being inHabited.

[Mattwan]

Have we talked about how Dawn, the girl in the new CYSTW post, seemed to think Slendy was a pretty awesome guy and was looking forward to getting to know him better? MTVince seemed pretty fond of Man, as well. Maybe we've been working with the wrong assumptions and the EMH Slendy is less a child murderer than he is a sort of Pied Piper figure. I have no idea what that could mean or how they could establish that, other than the children's laughter on Jessa's voicemail and stuff, but I thought I'd throw it out there anyway.

[Luipaard]

[Anonymousity]

Well, but you kinda miss the important question here, which is

[Gimme20dollaz]

[Gimme20dollaz]

I'm surprised rarely anyone is talking in here. Has EMH genuinely lost its steam?