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ainartfuldodger
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 		Hi, I'm an unfiction forum n00b, but have been following EverymandHYBRID and Tribe Twelve for some time now.
Anyways, I'm sure someone brought this up, but I'm pretty sure the Sigma radiation is given to those with direct and frequent contact with Slendy. Not to mention that fact that nearly everyone who has it has pretty much touched him, i.e. the flashback in the storage unit (close quarters, could be!). This would explain why Alex isn't effected, or partly at least. He's only seen Slendy once and has been pursued by The Rake more frequently.
However, I also liked the previous theory that Alex's distortion on reality also is a reason.
Sorry if this seems a little stupid from everyone who's been on the forums and has had more opportunity to theorize with others...I'm working on my wording!! Smile

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That diagram just made me bleed from my rectum, and not in the usual fashion. Congratulations on your hard work.





It's both!
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 		I posted that diagram to the TVTropes article about the Mythos.
Hope that's cool with you, Zaber.

Also, any word on if the gang has played DUBIOUS yet?

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BanishedZaber wrote:
Luipaard wrote:
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There are tips touching all over the place here.


hawt


You have no idea...


You forgot No Escape from Reality...
HERPA DERPA DERP! :3
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You forgot No Escape from Reality...
HERPA DERPA DERP! :3
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 		Also, Marble Hornets should be in the middle connected to everything as a fictional series.

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Wait, if Marble Hornets is fictional in all of the other fictional series, does that mean it's actually real in the real world?


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 		Found it. Thanks qaqa :)
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Looks like Jeff is skeptical that it's actually radiation:

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I don't know, man. Apparently "alpha" radiation is "gentle" enough to be blocked by layers of skin or sheets of paper... reading over the physicist's notes (from the Florida university), it doesn't seem like this is "normal" radiation. Personally, it seems like the branding of "radiation" is simply the closet they could have gotten to naming it. [J]"


I'm calling it, they've all got phlebotinum floating in their veins. Wink

Is it weird that I'm hoping it isn't radiation? I'm a bit of a science nerd and magic radiation is probably my biggest pet peeve in scifi/horror. Got superpowers? Radiation! Turned into a freak? Radiation! Giant ants marching on DC? Radiation! I'll take eldritch abomination cooties any day over Radiation Unknown to SCIENCE!!!.


Where'd that message come from Slayer?


Yeah... Where did this come from? I don't see it on the EMH twitter feed.


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IIRC, it's a YT reply comment on their page.


Found it. It is in their reply for Sigma

It seems that possibly Sigma radiation is internal and NOT external. It is the closest the Florida physicist could come to classifying it. The piece of Slenderman "cloth"may possibly have been a piece of Slenderman himself (pure conjecture there).

After looking at the definition of "alpha" radiation, it makes sense. Beta radiation is external as noted on the Beta radiation explanation at that site. So far the tests with the device have revealed that the radiation is ONLY in the blood, thereby it is something internal and NOT external to the EMHr's.

This hurts the Slenderman theory in that we are assuming external exposure to Him cause's the Sigma radiation signature, i.e. seeing Him, being in His presence, etc. J clearly states that according to the Florida physicist the Sigma radiation they tested is an "alpha"-type radiation which is internal radiation (see point 2 in the link above. Items with Alpha radiation would, according to this, have to be somehow ingested or enter internally into the body to register as Alpha radiation) as opposed to Beta radiation which is external.

It also slightly hurts the Candleverse theory in that it would be assumed that there was exposure while in the Candleverse unless it was breathed in (long-shot there) and infused the blood with Sigma.

It however does begin to strengthen the Iteration theory somewhat being as all the current positives were once the MT4 (Evan, Jay, Vince, and Steph). Unless someone else other than these 4 tests positive for Sigma radiation then ,IMHO, my call is that the Sigma radiation will only be detected in the MT4 and no one else, not even Noah should he deign to allow his blood to be tested (although the boys COULD throw me a good curve ball there and cause me to rethink everything....YET again, lol). How it got there is a whole other question entirely but this is the Slenderverse after all. Maybe some wierd experiment by Corenthal or even by Slenderman himself. We don't know.

What do you guys think?

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 		Sorry, I should have mentioned it was from Youtube. Embarassed

The theory I'm leaning toward right now is that Sigma is given off by everyone from the Candleverse. It looks more and more likely that Jeff, Vince, Evan, and Steph aren't exactly from around here and Slendy definitely isn't, so it would make sense. As for why Alex doesn't, maybe he's not really Jeff's brother. I'm not ready to say he's HABIT or the Rake cosplaying as a human or anything like that, but I'm extremely suspicious of him right now.

I don't think the EMH's+Steph's parents were ever real or Evan's sister either. It just seems too strange that we've never seen any of them. Yeah, phantom parents seems to be a standard feature of the genre, but they've actually mentioned these people and Vince and Evan supposedly live with their families. So why not even a voice from offscreen? Add in the fact that Jeff's parents were mentioned as being alive in that one video when Jeff took off. I don't buy the idea for a second that they would repeat Alex's delusion in the video and I don't think that they're sloppy enough to have that huge of a plot hole in the story. So for now I tend to think that any memories of interacting with their families have been implanted by whatever the entity or force is that keeps dropping them off for play dates in our reality. It would be interesting to know if any of the guys watched Buffy the Vampire Slayer since there was a similar situation starting in season 5.

Of course, we do have recordings of Alex's and Jeff's parents, but who provided those? Alex. He's the one wild card in all of this, the one character who doesn't fit into the jigsaw. His Rake-haunting and increasing looney toons status just strikes me as attempts to throw off suspicion from him. Especially the Rake in his closet. The Rake just about ripped Evan's arm off in five seconds, but couldn't even manage to kill Alex in the God only knows how many nights it was sharing a room with him? That just strikes me as really bizarre and incredibly unlikely. And if something is wanting to keep an eye on the four of them, what better way than taking the form of a vulnerable younger sidekick whom they feel they need to protect?

The one thing I can't really decide on is the why. There doesn't seem to be any point to having children trapped in an endless loop of being born, stalked by Slendy, dying, and being reborn. I could probably come up with some pretty crazy ideas though. Maybe they're all eldritch nasties trapped in human form for punishment or for giggles. Maybe this is their idea of a vacation. Whatever it is, I really don't believe that Slendy is their enemy. He could have killed them at any time. He pretty much had killed Evan in Brooklyn, but chose to fix them all. I don't believe for a second that he's "good" or even something that you could slap a simplistic moral label on, but I don't think he's done anything to show that he's an enemy. Well, Jessa, but that's it.

Has HABIT indicated when the last trial starts?

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 		I don't think it is as complicated as others seem to think it is. I'm not saying they're wrong, it just seems complicated.

The device detects slenderman, sans an opening, while our 4 stalwart heroes have their blood make go off. I would think its just plain exposure, because his presence has to do something, because we've seen it do something. Take the video where they find the device. A large, black, "flavorless" chunk of liquid exited Vince, without anything of a tap on the shoulder by our slender friend. It has to, for a lack of better words, radiate something in order to have a strong effect.

And this makes sense in the present example, because I don't think I've seen anyone else be so close to slenderman, so if he indeed radiates with some sort of energy, it would be at its strongest right next to him.

Of course, we could all be wrong, it could be something of a matter of origins, maybe the device doesn't detect slendy shit, maybe there are unknown variables that haven't come up yet. I'm only shooting a basic look at things, where there seems to be a lot of in-depth and complicated theories.

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Add in the fact that Jeff's parents were mentioned as being alive in that one video when Jeff took off. I don't buy the idea for a second that they would repeat Alex's delusion in the video and I don't think that they're sloppy enough to have that huge of a plot hole in the story.


I believe it has been determined that the parents dies soon after that.
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 		I think it's just a matter of how many times you've been in contact with him. The 4 have all been very close to him, in that storage container. Hell, Evan tried to bludgeon him (lol), and the 3 tried to run him over with a car.

Also, SL has been caught near bags of organs in the woods (most likely responsible for it). No way that's nice or neutral in my book.
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 		We are still talking about EXTERNAL contact with Slenderman causing Sigma. Jay uses the term " "alpha" radiation" when referring to Sigma though, as he states, Sigma may not be a traditional type of radiation at all.

Quote from Jay on the Sigma Youtube Video:
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I don't know, man. Apparently "alpha" radiation is "gentle" enough to be blocked by layers of skin or sheets of paper... reading over the physicist's notes (from the Florida university), it doesn't seem like this is "normal" radiation. Personally, it seems like the branding of "radiation" is simply the closet they could have gotten to naming it. [J]"


Alpha-type radiation is from an INTERNAL source. In this case the Sigma in the blood of Evan, Vince, Jay, and Steph and could only be detected when exposed outside the body (i.e. bleeding on a towel). That indicates an Alpha-type radiation. Alpha-type radiation is very hard to detect because it does not even penetrate skin. You have to have special instruments to detect it inside the body that require training to use. Again here is the link pertaining to Alpha-type radiation.

http://orise.orau.gov/reacts/guide/alpha.htm

I am not trying to force a conclusion but am confused as to the insistence of most everyone that Sigma is a result of contact with Slenderman. I could see that if it had been described Jay as a Beta-type radiation which would be a by-product of radiation from external contact.

http://orise.orau.gov/reacts/guide/beta.htm

Does anyone have an explanation for how the Evan, Vince, Jeff, and Steph have a presumably Alpha-type radiation in their blood and not a Beta-type radiation?


On a side note, Can I say how much I hate Physics? Maybe I am looking at it from too simple a point of view. I am not trying to start any flame wars but am just curious as to how they could have gotten this "radiation" signature internally and not externally.

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 		I think we should just roll with the EMH pseudo-science here, and call it a day.
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robgmartin wrote:
We are still talking about EXTERNAL contact with Slenderman causing Sigma. Jay uses the term " "alpha" radiation" when referring to Sigma though, as he states, Sigma may not be a traditional type of radiation at all.

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I don't know, man. Apparently "alpha" radiation is "gentle" enough to be blocked by layers of skin or sheets of paper... reading over the physicist's notes (from the Florida university), it doesn't seem like this is "normal" radiation. Personally, it seems like the branding of "radiation" is simply the closet they could have gotten to naming it. [J]"

Alpha-type radiation is from an INTERNAL source. In this case the Sigma in the blood of Evan, Vince, Jay, and Steph and could only be detected when exposed outside the body (i.e. bleeding on a towel). That indicates an Alpha-type radiation. Alpha-type radiation is very hard to detect because it does not even penetrate skin. You have to have special instruments to detect it inside the body that require training to use. Again here is the link pertaining to Alpha-type radiation.

http://orise.orau.gov/reacts/guide/alpha.htm

I am not trying to force a conclusion but am confused as to the insistence of most everyone that Sigma is a result of contact with Slenderman. I could see that if it had been described Jay as a Beta-type radiation which would be a by-product of radiation from external contact.

http://orise.orau.gov/reacts/guide/beta.htm

Does anyone have an explanation for how the Evan, Vince, Jeff, and Steph have a presumably Alpha-type radiation in their blood and not a Beta-type radiation?


On a side note, Can I say how much I hate Physics? Maybe I am looking at it from too simple a point of view. I am not trying to start any flame wars but am just curious as to how they could have gotten this "radiation" signature internally and not externally.


This is very good speculation rob, and the links are awesome. :] Thanks for those.

For myself, the only thing I can really think of is this: since the "radiation" (and let us all remember to use that term loosely) is completely internal and only detectable when exposed to the outside, it seems to mean that it's produced from somewhere inside their bodies.

There is also a question that's a bit gross but also should be answered: is the sigma radiation only in the blood? There should be testing of urine or tears or something, just to rule this out.

And if the radiation is exclusive to their blood than what in their blood is generating it? It's not just appearing out of no where, and while I do think it's Slender Man induced that doesn't mean that they've come down with an obscure form of radiation sickness. From what we've seen it seems like Slender Man incites or stimulates the creation of sigma radiation in their bodies. Is it the red blood cells? white blood cells? platelets? some combination of the three? Or do they just have some sort of property that makes each cell a generator of sigma?
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 		I'm with punxtr here. I'm not going to cosign testing Jeff's piss. You wanna send that email, spin the wheel, baby.
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