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DHawk314
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pinkee808 wrote:
For instance in entry 38 where Alex is leading Jay through the woods he says when he "first moved here" meaning that he had lived there or nearby there (and wasn't this Rosswood park?)


Alex moved away after giving Jay the tapes. Also, the return address that Alex sent to Jay was near Rosswood Park, where I assume they were in Entry #38. I think the place where Alex was with Amy in Entry #26 was what he meant when he said "First moved here" and that that place happened to be near Rosswood Park.

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 		Here's what I think.

Jessica has been slenderstalked, but not through any relationship with the MH crew. She met Jay during the seven-month period (probably closer to the end of it), which would explain him seeming familiar to her. They checked into the hotel together, which would explain the adjoining rooms. I really think she'll pop up at some point on the tapes - after all, the combination to the safe containing them was in her room, wasn't it?

To review the facts: Jessica mentions that she might have been to Rosswood as a kid. She has nightmares in which she is a child and in danger. Jay encounters the Operator in Rosswood. There's got to be a connection here.

Also, I know it was posted months ago, but when Jessica talked about being kicked out of her house I think she was pretty much bullshitting like Jay was due to memory loss.

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 		^Once again, a post that makes so much sense, it hurts.
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Andvalli wrote:
Here's what I think.

Jessica has been slenderstalked, but not through any relationship with the MH crew. She met Jay during the seven-month period (probably closer to the end of it), which would explain him seeming familiar to her. They checked into the hotel together, which would explain the adjoining rooms. I really think she'll pop up at some point on the tapes - after all, the combination to the safe containing them was in her room, wasn't it?

To review the facts: Jessica mentions that she might have been to Rosswood as a kid. She has nightmares in which she is a child and in danger. Jay encounters the Operator in Rosswood. There's got to be a connection here.

Also, I know it was posted months ago, but when Jessica talked about being kicked out of her house I think she was pretty much bullshitting like Jay was due to memory loss.


Totally agree with all of this, to elaborate/speculate a little I think that Jessica has been stalked by the Operator since being a child in the same way as has happened to Alex as her description of her dreams seems to suggest so, but her memories of any encounter with the operator were erased by the operator after the encounters took place, I also agree with pinkee808 that Alex would have no idea about the Operator if he wasn't a film student and had captured the Operator on film.

The question is why has he been stalking them for so long? I'll throw a theory out there that Alex and Jessica are descendants of the people that used to tie criminals to the trees in the forest in the 1800s, maybe their families have been stalked by the Operator since then but all had their minds wiped and then Alex who filmed alot during the Marble Hornets production was the first to realise something was going on when he went over the tapes. It's possible that maybe Alex and Jessica's ancestors were the ones who took the Ark and the Operator has been trying to get it back by watching the families.

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 		I read on the theories page on the wikidot page concerning the Entry where Alex tells Jay about the tree and how they stopped hanging criminals bodies from them because they found a child's body mutilated. The person suggested maybe the Operator is some kind of Diety and perhaps the child disturbed him, which lead to it being lashed out. Perhaps Alex and Jessica disturbed the Operator, leading them to be followed and such. Perhaps they've successfully avoided him since they were children. Also, the name Operator would fit for a Diety. An Operator is the person who is behind the operation, or has control over something. That would fit perfectly with it. Once I find it, I'll post it here. It was someone from this forum who posted it. I'm sure you all have read it, anyway, but I'll still post it as reference.

http://marblehornets.wikidot.com/theories

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The story says that they thought the forest was blessed. I think that the Operator is the "deity" of that forest. I'll explain everything one at a time. What if the person who started this practice saw the Operator, with his long, stretched out arms, and thought that it was the forest's doing, or that he was a deity of growth? He would proceed to set up the practice explained, of binding the criminals to trees, thinking they too would have something similar happen to them, or have some odd growth in general. This explains the practice, as well as him not having a face (he's a deity, why should he have one?)
What about the child? This could split into two directions.

The story of Der Großmann goes that he would punish children who did something bad. If this is the reason however, there are a few problems: It doesn't explain, why Alex? Why was it only that one child, and not all the other bad ones as well? For this reason, I like to dismiss this possibility. However, I still decided to post it here.
The Operator, if he really is a deity, may be a bit cliché; He was having a god-nap, and then was woken up by someone and was grumpy. Who woke him up, I don't know. Was it the child or the people who started binding people to the trees as punishment? If it was the first, what follows is simple: He killed the child for waking him up. However, if it was the latter, it raises two questions: Why the child and not the people in charge of punishing the criminals, and why is he after Alex? I have some answers to this. Firstly, what happens to those in charge of the criminals is never said. What's to say they didn't all get killed by the Operator later? Another, likely possibility (supported by everything we know so far), is that the Operator does not go for groups of people. Since the people binding criminals to trees were probably in groups, the Operator needed another way to keep people out of his forest; He took the life of a child, which successfully chased out the intruders. And as for Alex, I wouldn't be surprised if he awoke the Operator again.

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Andvalli wrote:
Here's what I think.

Jessica has been slenderstalked, but not through any relationship with the MH crew. She met Jay during the seven-month period (probably closer to the end of it), which would explain him seeming familiar to her. They checked into the hotel together, which would explain the adjoining rooms. I really think she'll pop up at some point on the tapes - after all, the combination to the safe containing them was in her room, wasn't it?

To review the facts: Jessica mentions that she might have been to Rosswood as a kid. She has nightmares in which she is a child and in danger. Jay encounters the Operator in Rosswood. There's got to be a connection here.

Also, I know it was posted months ago, but when Jessica talked about being kicked out of her house I think she was pretty much bullshitting like Jay was due to memory loss.


Perfect.

Adding to this, note that Jay's vehicle was in the parking lot of the hotel, and he leaves several times, yet we never see Jessica leave the hotel. This must be because she does not have a car with her, so she must have arrived at the hotel with Jay, in his car.

And in Entry #27, Jay says that his room was only booked for the night. They must have arrived the very day or night before Entry #27 takes place. I don't know what that means, but it should narrow down the possibilities a bit.

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 		I skimmed most of this, so not sure if someone's mentioned it yet or not, but didn't Jessica say that Jay looked familiar to her or something? Meaning she might have seen him at some point if she WERE a friend/GF of Alex or Brian.

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Andvalli wrote:
To review the facts: Jessica mentions that she might have been to Rosswood as a kid. She has nightmares in which she is a child and in danger. Jay encounters the Operator in Rosswood. There's got to be a connection here.

This is beginning to make me more convinced that Entry 10 takes place in Rosswood.

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Andvalli wrote:
After all, the combination to the safe containing them was in her room, wasn't it?


No, I think he tried her safe, because he found the combination in HER room - but the combination worked on HIS safe... which would perhaps mean that Jessica might have been his "fail safe" for memory retrieval? Perhaps before he knows he's about to lose his memory, he entrusts something to a random stranger - the stranger gets stalked and memory-wiped, and Jay gets to keep important bits of information?

Either that, or someone kidnapped Jessica, and left the combination to the safe there for Jay to find - which would almost mean that TTA might have been in that room.

It's going to suck if this is all an elaborate hoax aimed at Jay - if the crew comes out at the end and it's like "Sorry Jay, were you scared? We were all in on it together - we're all messing with your head. Meet Jessica - she's a random stranger that decided to help you! Oh, and don't worry about the memory loss - we just fed you some of Tim's anti-seizure drugs." lol. I'm gonna be upset!

awakeasaurusrex wrote:
Andvalli wrote:
To review the facts: Jessica mentions that she might have been to Rosswood as a kid. She has nightmares in which she is a child and in danger. Jay encounters the Operator in Rosswood. There's got to be a connection here.

This is beginning to make me more convinced that Entry 10 takes place in Rosswood.


So, maybe Rosswood is in two different towns, kind of like a huge border - Jay's only in the next town over, and the place he was in before was in the "back door" of Rosswood, but now he's in the "front door?" I mean, he doesn't know where he is, that's the thing. It's like he's in a new place from where he started out. (And from where Marble Hornets was filmed initially. UNLESS it's all been filmed in Rosswood Park - just in two different parts of Rosswood.)

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Foood wrote:
Andvalli wrote:
Here's what I think.

Jessica has been slenderstalked, but not through any relationship with the MH crew. She met Jay during the seven-month period (probably closer to the end of it), which would explain him seeming familiar to her. They checked into the hotel together, which would explain the adjoining rooms. I really think she'll pop up at some point on the tapes - after all, the combination to the safe containing them was in her room, wasn't it?

To review the facts: Jessica mentions that she might have been to Rosswood as a kid. She has nightmares in which she is a child and in danger. Jay encounters the Operator in Rosswood. There's got to be a connection here.

Also, I know it was posted months ago, but when Jessica talked about being kicked out of her house I think she was pretty much bullshitting like Jay was due to memory loss.


Perfect.

Adding to this, note that Jay's vehicle was in the parking lot of the hotel, and he leaves several times, yet we never see Jessica leave the hotel. This must be because she does not have a car with her, so she must have arrived at the hotel with Jay, in his car.

And in Entry #27, Jay says that his room was only booked for the night. They must have arrived the very day or night before Entry #27 takes place. I don't know what that means, but it should narrow down the possibilities a bit.


Good point on the car. As for them only being booked for the night, something hit me earlier: What if they were on the run from something and constantly changing location, like Jay was at the end of Season 1? Hey, considering when the stay at the hotel is extended, our masked friend makes a return...

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RhadaDhatri wrote:

awakeasaurusrex wrote:
Andvalli wrote:
To review the facts: Jessica mentions that she might have been to Rosswood as a kid. She has nightmares in which she is a child and in danger. Jay encounters the Operator in Rosswood. There's got to be a connection here.

This is beginning to make me more convinced that Entry 10 takes place in Rosswood.


So, maybe Rosswood is in two different towns, kind of like a huge border - Jay's only in the next town over, and the place he was in before was in the "back door" of Rosswood, but now he's in the "front door?" I mean, he doesn't know where he is, that's the thing. It's like he's in a new place from where he started out. (And from where Marble Hornets was filmed initially. UNLESS it's all been filmed in Rosswood Park - just in two different parts of Rosswood.)



Again, I point out the fact that it took Jay 2-3 days of straight driving before arriving in Rosswood Park area. I awfully doubt that it is simply in the next town over.

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 		Am I the only one who realizes maybe Jessica was one of the kids at the birthday party in entry 37?

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WhyYouBawwing wrote:
Am I the only one who realizes maybe Jessica was one of the kids at the birthday party in entry 37?


Besides Alex's assumed mother, there were no females on camera at the party. It is however possible that she was indeed there, just off camera.

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DHawk314 wrote:
Again, I point out the fact that it took Jay 2-3 days of straight driving before arriving in Rosswood Park area. I awfully doubt that it is simply in the next town over.


Actually what he says is that he drives around the local area for 2-3 days looking for a place like it. Since Jay doesn't know/remember the geographic area, he's looking for a location blindly. For example, this would be like being dropped in the middle of East BumbleWTF, Nebraska and trying to find "an office building with a white propane tank behind it". It might take me a few days of driving aimlessly around the town to find it or narrow it down to some reasonable possibilities.

This is also discounting that Jay is probably not eager to be out in the open too much and may not spend too many hours actually looking.

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 		Back On topic, I'm also of the opinion that Jessica is more of a red-herring to the original problem. Without further evidence or information or appearances to place her within the framework of the MH production, I don't think she's especially associated with Jay or Alex. At most, she's a hint that the Operator is a force which occurs outside of the MH production and is not something specific to Alex, TiMasky, etc.

How she came to be in the same place as Jay remains a mystery, but it just might be one that is really never addressed. OOG, we all know that the Slendy Mythos extends to other people and places, but IG there is no reason for Jay to have necessarily concluded that the Operator is anything but an Alex-specific boogeyman (at least until he consciously encounters Ops in #40). Jessica's behavior hints that the Operator and his less-than-healthy influence is something that has happened to complete strangers.

Also, in re: Jess getting kicked out of her house, I believe there's a candid moment when Jay catches her on camera talking on her cell phone about some dramatic incident which happened while she was "drunk" (which Jessica asserts wasn't the case, although she doesn't remember it). I think it is likely that Jessica is telling the truth about being put out of her house. Contriving a cell phone conversation simply for Jay's benefit of filming her having it is a pretty oblique thing to do, and a Xanatos Roulette twist I really don't see this story supporting.


ETA: You know, I just remembered the key that Jay found in the bag with his clothes. Wild Guessing here, but maybe Jessica and Jay traded "failsafes" with each other? She got the combo for his safe, and Jay got the key to something Jessica needed to hide? The key looks like one for a house, maybe the one she got kicked out of?

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