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Here are some thoughts that I want to address as I catch up through the last 11 pages. XD I'll try to arrange them by subject so that it's not such a random slog; sorry for wall of text but with you guys posting so often and me being stubborn and wanting to read it all, I just want to talk to EVERYONE. (8B)

And I'm about to, like, quadruple-post. I figured it'd be less insanely annoying to read several posts that were each a subject unto themselves, than one HUGE post that would take days to slog through. Feel free to skim or skip; I know some'a you have expressed that you do so anyways!


Regarding TTA, Masky, and Related Speculation
-The last TTA video was from 11 months ago; In character, Jay followed the 'Stay Home, Be Alone' instructions from Warning to a T for several weeks, before he fled his apartment and it was burned down. The latest TTA video has no bearing on the current situation; If anything, Entry ###### has more bearing and is more recent than Warning.

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Regarding the Operator
-Also "Operator" is the name of the tall dark and scary character in Marble Hornets. In this case it is the official name, and is distinct and probably copyrighted, different from the "Slender Man" that we see in other stories. People here referring to this character as "Slender Man" or "Slendy" are using a nickname. Sort of like people using "Masky" instead of "Totheark". While "Slender Man" is valid, to a point, it's not what the characters official name is, or at least it's not what the creators call him, so it is slightly less valid than if you were to use "Operator". (It's taking me a while to make the switch, but I'm trying -- if the creators go to the effort to differentiate the character, following their lead on that seems like the least we could do.)

-While the Operator seems only to have been focused on Alex throughout the tapes, we do see anecdotal evidence that other characters are attacked or made to disappear somehow -- Entry #22 confirms this, though the blood that we see at times suggests this as well. It's possible and likely that if both Jessica and Jay have experienced symptoms of his presence, he is willing and able to chase them both down without regard for focusing on one or the other, especially if they are both in one place at a time. It will be interesting to see who takes precedence: I'm guessing Jessica, as Jay always seems to have been an accomplice to stalkees, what with hanging around Alex, and Jessica expressing her fear of dreams and being watched. It could be that the Operator doesn't so much watch one person at a time as that this is only what we can perceive; Alex having a camera messed with his ability to perform his usual tasks. Jay may be causing a similar problem if he is near to Jessica, and the mere presence of his cameras could be pissing the Operator off!

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Regarding the Current Situation
-I don't want to fall in with the camp of shippers and people who are desperately filling in the gaping hole of 'what happened in the last seven months?!' with stories of Jay and Jessica's supposed fling and fallout. I think it would be more important and relevant to examine the seperate but adjoining rooms as having one of a couple of different reasons.

1) Jay and Jessica were working together previously, but both are private people (you see how much Jay interacts with us these days, in addition to how Jessica interacts with him awkwardly and keeps her doors always mostly shut) and so decided that adjoining rooms were best.
-In this case, I foresee PoisonMolasses' prediction of picking up the lost memory puzzle pieces as being the next move for our entries. They could each be in possession of parts of memories that the other lacks and begin to build a more solid understanding of what happened, and what events led to their current situation.

2) Jay and Jessica's lives intersected more recently, so adjoining rooms were called for because they weren't certain of one another, or if they could trust one another.
-In this case, it seems like a pretty big coincidence that Jessica is being stalked, and that her life has happened to intersect with Jay's. I feel that there has to be a reason at some point that Jessica got involved, and I think that saying that she's related (as a friend, a sister, a significant other, etc.) to one of the MH crew could be a cop-out. It could be that, what with Alex sounding more calm in #26, and Jay's decision to embroil himself once again in aggressively investigating, he could have started trying to track dow the Operator, and came across Jessica along the way. If she says that she's had dreams of being a child and being stalked by him, she could simply be a victim in orbit of the Operator's world, or realm, or series of unfortunate events, just like the MH crew. It could be that they just intersected at some point.

3) Jay and Jessica were planted at the hotel next to one another without previous knowledge of one another (Jessica feeling that Jay's name was familiar could be a point against this, but with the amnesia it is really hard to say conclusively one way or another!) and so were given adjoining rooms, the better to stumble on one another and ask questions.
-I put this thought forward because the new entries began with Masky tweets, and TTA entries had almost always been created with the aim to force Jay to open up, to question and investigate, and to move things along. With those two thoughts in mind, I think that it could be relevant that they were planted and made to 'wake up' so that they could discover one another and work on figuring out what happened.

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Off Topic But Awesome

[Akemi-Idane]

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[JKatkina]

[Dray]

One point against TTA being a third party in the game of the Operator vs the MH group: the Operator's name suggests that he has some ability to make connections, or perhaps to operate on people... it could be implied that as the Operator, the Masky character is under his control and is being used to connect with Jay and perhaps others... because the Operator doesn't seem to have a conceivable goal of his own, it could be that TTA is being used to express that purpose for him.

That's just based off of name associations, though, and I don't think that it's a strong point in favor of Slender-minionization. It seems more likely to me that you're right about a character struggling to maintain sanity or put a barrier between himself and a force that otherwise doesn't seem to obey our rules and personal space! I have to wonder if Tim tried tinfoil hats at some point on the journey to discovering the masky mask....

[Akemi-Idane]

[theonewhoquestions]

[JKatkina]

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I have to admit, I've never liked the idea of SM/Operator taking people on as slaves or apprentices - I like to think that Masky/TTA has his own intentions (however messed up they may be).

I also hope that Jay has not been his own Masky for the past 7 months, I don't know why - but I just don't feel right with that theory. Forgive me for saying "Do not want!" without coming up with a viable counter theory, its just how I feel atm!

[Akemi-Idane]

[JKatkina]

[Bingo Zero]

I like the idea that Masky is a slender-fanboy, that he's Tim and he becomes obsessed with the Operator. I don't think that the mask has any special powers, but as a mental defense Tim creates this second personality as totheark and wears a mask to become TTA. In his mind Tim is vulnerable to the slenderification but TTA is invulnerable, so he needs to be the invulnerable TTA. But TTA isn't invulnerable, it's just Tim in a mask, as we've see TTA have a seizure and when Jay goes to remove the mask Tim freaks out, he needs to be TTA.