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badluckshadow13
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Jynx62009 wrote:
I've always found the "more than one Masky" thing a little hard to believe.

Why? We've seen video evidence that Alex didn't always explore alone, it's a distinct possibility that several members of the MH cast know the operator exists
Masky and Alex both demonstrate some sort of knowledge about the workings of Slendy that we ourselves don't, that in itself is pretty remarkable, given that Jay's had all this time and hasn't puzzled it out.
Who's to say more of the MH cast weren't just as bright? Maybe they've figured it out too, that or they shared their information *shrug*

Dray wrote:

-So TTA hasn't shown up for nearly a year, now. There's been Entry ###### and those twitter pics, but it does feel as though the creators are phasing him out of the story.

Isn't it plausible that Masky genuinely doesn't know where Jay is?
Dray wrote:
What makes you assume that 'becoming a Masky' is a universal trait of being stalked by the Operator? In as far as we have seen, 'being a Masky' could very well have been Tim's individual defense against the symptoms that he was feeling, or a direct reaction to the slew of mental side-effects of hysteria, paranoia, general fear, and insomnia that it seems people suffer.

THANK YOU DRAY.
Seriously, people are acting like you can "catch the masky" and all this "she's gonna go masky on us" shit's been getting on my nerves, they're not goddamn werewolves.
Dray wrote:
That's not to say that Jay could have experimented with a mask

*snickers*

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Jynx62009
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badluckshadow13 wrote:
Jynx62009 wrote:
I've always found the "more than one Masky" thing a little hard to believe.

Why?

Dray wrote:

-So TTA hasn't shown up for nearly a year, now. There's been Entry ###### and those twitter pics, but it does feel as though the creators are phasing him out of the story.

Isn't it plausible that Masky genuinely doesn't know where Jay is?
Dray wrote:
What makes you assume that 'becoming a Masky' is a universal trait of being stalked by the Operator? In as far as we have seen, 'being a Masky' could very well have been Tim's individual defense against the symptoms that he was feeling, or a direct reaction to the slew of mental side-effects of hysteria, paranoia, general fear, and insomnia that it seems people suffer.

THANK YOU DRAY.
Seriously, people are acting like you can "catch the masky" and all this "she's gonna go masky on us" shit's been getting on my nerves, they're not goddamn werewolves.


I meant I just never thought of there being 2 or 3 masked guys running around, but if that were the case, for some reason, I'd think Brian was one of them.

And I think it's funny people think they can catch the masky 'disease' too. I figured it was just some kind of defense against SM.

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badluckshadow13 wrote:

Dray wrote:

-So TTA hasn't shown up for nearly a year, now. There's been Entry ###### and those twitter pics, but it does feel as though the creators are phasing him out of the story.

Isn't it plausible that Masky genuinely doesn't know where Jay is?


I'm not trying to say that that's not possible, I'm just talking in terms of OOG use of the character. The twitpics that popped up at the beginning of the series, makes me think that TTA has a clue, coupled with the fact that Jay mentioned that someone always seemed to know where he was despite his hotel hopping in #26. It's possible, yes, though I think it takes a larger stretch to say that TTA isn't around because he goofed up than because he, IG, is biding his time, and OOG, the creators are waiting for the best time to toss him back into the fray.

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Leśniak
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TTA/Masky is provably Tim.

Bear in mind, the apparently earliest filmed TTA video coincides directly with one of the earliest chronological entries, filmed by Alex and J while they were in the early pre-production stages of MH (presumably before they'd even met several members of the Marble Hornets cast/crew). This means that J and probably Alex have had someone on their back for a long time, which explains how it was possible for them to track J's progress from hotel to hotel at the end of season 1.

If TTA is just one person (which is most likely), and he's also the masked man (which is most likely, especially considering J has stated he thinks he is, and he shows up in TTA videos), the circumstances of that earliest video pairing prove that TTA isn't Alex, and it also proves that he isn't J (he couldn't be hiding in the bushes filming himself, or run away from himself in Entry 23, after all). It also proves he had a connection either to the Operator or Alex/J way before filming even began on Marble Hornets.

It also means that he probably knows more about what's going on (at least in the first season) than any other character, which presumably means that he hasn't been suffering from amnesia, or at least hasn't suffered as badly as J did.

We know it can't be Seth, because he apparently gets eaten in Entry 22. It also obviously isn't Jessica: She's never once mentioned before her introduction by anyone in any context.

That means the only possibilities are Tim, Brian, and Sarah. It's not Sarah, as the jawline and general body shape are definitely male.

Which leaves Brian and Tim. While Brian at first seems the obvious candidate (he knew Alex at least for years prior to filming), he disappears fairly early on and is never seen again, and when J investigates his house (after receiving an "anonymous tip", it's clearly been abandoned for a long time). Tim, however, has five things going for him:

1. Sideburns.
2. He was apparently roped into the production as a friend of the lead actor. Seems fine, but Marble Hornets is being filmed in the middle of nowhere, so it's reasonable to presume he lives quite nearby, otherwise it'd be massively inconvenient for him.
3. He's been shown lying in once before (the fact that he seems reluctant even to have the camera on, let alone pointing at his face, suggests he isn't suffering from amnesia, especially when considering what happened to Alex when he had a camera trained on him for more than a few seconds).
4. Sideburns.

The only piece of evidence which even remotely suggests there's another one is the different mask in Entry 26, and since in 23 the guy either leaves his mask (or a spare) on the doorhandle, it could just as easily mean he was using different masks. Plastic masks on elastic aren't exactly hard to come by.

He's probably still present in-game, but hasn't revealed himself yet because he either A: Doesn't know J's whereabouts (unlikely, seeing as he's been keeping tabs on him so long) or B: Because he doesn't have anything useful to tell him yet. Whatever his motives are, every video TTA posted provided some kind of information for J to varying degrees of opaqueness, be they hints or additional footage, even if many of them were threatening/haven't been solved yet. It's likely he's waiting for J to give him something to work with, or he doesn't exactly know what's going on himself now and thus can't help.

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Wow! I appreciate your thoroughness and your thoughtfulness. However, two things:

1. You left out a number of Tim-related supporting evidence, such as his jacket, and the fact that the bottom half of Tim's face is overlaid over the last section of totheark's entry, "Messages".

2. This is the one widely agreed-upon piece of information throughout the viewership, and has been since before the season break. Go read some of the existing threads to bone up (ha, ha) on the existing theories -- and welcome to the madness!

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TheMorrigan
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Jesus christ people! I was gone a day and in that time we had a massive trout storm from a bunch of lazy noobs followed by a self-appointed moderator storm rife with rageposts. I'm seriously doubting the usefulness and relevance of this forum to the story now. Too many posts to read (if you have a life) so we are only going to get more troutstorms and self-appointed mod backlash in the future.

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TheMorrigan wrote:
Jesus christ people! I was gone a day and in that time we had a massive trout storm from a bunch of lazy noobs followed by a self-appointed moderator storm rife with rageposts. I'm seriously doubting the usefulness and relevance of this forum to the story now. Too many posts to read (if you have a life) so we are only going to get more troutstorms and self-appointed mod backlash in the future.


Listen, if you can see what's wrong, either help fix it or make good on your threatened ragequit. Yeah this place is bogged down, and because we functionally DON'T have a moderator, it's only going to get worse as MH picks up steam. So if I have to be the bitch that asks people to use the proper threads, well, someone has to.

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ArkyMcArkArk
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JKatkina wrote:
So if I have to be the bitch that asks people to use the proper threads, well, someone has to.


I, for one, thank you for your benevolent bitchery.

Alsoalso yeah, the idea of TTA being out of the picture for this season (this was so many pages ago I don't even Know who brought it up) is quite ridiculous. I mean, if nothing else, there were the TTA-ish twitpics that Started Off The Season.

The only thing I think that makes sense to speculate about is HOW this fellow is going to traipse back onto our lovely internets. Personally, I hope we get submissions on the youtube channel again, and I think its also the most likely possibility. Even though the "game is over", TTA (or someone very much like him/her/it) sent those twitpics, and if those weren't part of "the game", I don't know what else is. However, there's also the real possibility that TTA will interact with our lovely protagonist(s) in new and unexpected ways.

A bit off-topic, but what do folks think are the chances of Jessica getting a twitter/youtube account? I really hope not, I like MH the way it is, I don't want it becoming EMH.

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I......still think TTA is dead, OR something about the Hotel kept him away, masky (in my opinion) is most likely nothing supernatural, it's just Tim gone crazy (he may have killed Brian, more on that to come) The lack of TTa activity hints that Alex was TTA and is strugling to find somewhere else to hide, and thus can't post anymore videos. People are way overreacting about Masky, we have no proof that he's related to The Operator in any way other than just being around.

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ArkyMcArkArk
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bobthecrusher wrote:
People are way overreacting about Masky, we have no proof that he's related to The Operator in any way other than just being around.


Well there is the fact that TTA gave us the Name for the Operator, and TTA and Masky are (at the very least) linked, so yeah, I think we can say they're related. Plus, the fact that the Return video probably takes place after Masky shows up in Jay's room, and Shows the Operator seems to indicate a connection.

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I really REALLY don't think that Masky and TTA are the same person. It's possible that TTa is Brian and Alex working Together

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TheMorrigan
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JKatkina wrote:
TheMorrigan wrote:
Jesus christ people! I was gone a day and in that time we had a massive trout storm from a bunch of lazy noobs followed by a self-appointed moderator storm rife with rageposts. I'm seriously doubting the usefulness and relevance of this forum to the story now. Too many posts to read (if you have a life) so we are only going to get more troutstorms and self-appointed mod backlash in the future.


Listen, if you can see what's wrong, either help fix it or make good on your threatened ragequit. Yeah this place is bogged down, and because we functionally DON'T have a moderator, it's only going to get worse as MH picks up steam. So if I have to be the bitch that asks people to use the proper threads, well, someone has to.
Wasn't a ragequit, and yes we don't have the mod around, but extending things to very large and several posts in a row is not a constructive method of solving anything. The best thing is to continue as normal, and remember than in the past, the majority of our speculation was never actually answered. This thread is mainly an informal discussion board, not the means to solving anything.

The most help this forum ever gave me was spotting things in the videos I didn't, like Slenderman in entry 2.

If we remember that most speculation in this series is fruitless, as it'll either get solved or not, without us saying anything, we can ignore whole threads of trout, (letting them live and let live as its pointless to try and stop it) and just keep making useful threads like spotting things another viewer didn't. Especially with use of programs to download the videos to look at the last frame. Most people wouldn't think to do that.

Also, if ignored, a new thread which is 100% trout will die within a few days. Threads like ones for each entry inevitably get filled with trout, but most of the important things are mentioned in the first 2-3 pages, like 'slenderman: top left corner'. Once its past 11, we can safely let the thread devolve into chit chat, we can't expect out nervous energy to be contained if we have to wait a week+ between entries. We also can't individual manage ever single user and every single post to make sure they are posting 'properly'. Without any real G in this arg, we don't need to be so formal.

I obviously find trouts annoying, but Slenderman related anythings inevitably gather users who are not familiar with ARG posting. Most of whats said doesn't matter anyways like I've said above, and it does not obfuscate the important content in the threads any more than blatant meta, shipping and kidding around being all friendly like does. Its all just white noise now.

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Let's please not derail this thread into fighting.

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A) Sweet fluffy awesomeness! Dray quoted me favorably! I have now achieved positive response status from the two posters I absolutely most respect here on these our forums... :happytears:

B) yes, lets not fight. I love most of us. Except the occasional n00b, and even then, I love them, but also want to punch them.

C) I NEED MOAR MARBLEHORNETS LIKE NAOW. Clearly, the influx of trout, n00bishness, bickering, OT-ness, trolling (well, some), and off-the-wall speculation is due to a high-suspense video with NO FOLLOW UP!

I'M DYING IN ALL-CAPITALS HERE, GUYS!

D) I like distilled's theory on masky. Not that I buy it, but he or she politely posited the theory and made it clear when the theory was pure spec and opinion and when it was not. This is not to say I believe it, but thanks for posting a theory right.

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Thanks BioGuy, I try to be polite!

[offtopic]And Morrigan, on some level I agree with you - sometimes we can be too quick to chastise newcomers who don't know the rules. However, if we point people in the right direction of the information they're asking for, or in the direction of the thread in which their theory has been discussed into infinity then we both benefit. I think the key is to do it in such a way as to encourage them to look at the information and consider whether a new thread is always appropriate, rather than tell them off and discourage them from ever posting a thread again. I also believe it is well within a normal posters' (such as JKat/Dray etc) rights to highlight the trout to the newcomer, as long as it is done in a reasonable manner.[/offtopic]

Jkat wrote:

This is the first time ever that I've liked a theory where J dons the mask, mostly because it'd be so in-character for him to so grossly misinterpret TTA's intentions!


It is well constructed, I just can't wait for that episode - the unveiling one, the one which may never come, where we finally get to see behind the mask. I really hope Troy and the gang have the constitutional fortitude to give the series a significant conclusion rather than go all Lost on us.
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