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Phenom
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 		Hey, I'm not going to join you guys in editing the wiki but I want to make a suggestion, get rid of the Just Another Fool related pages. It is a Marble Hornets wiki and it shouldn't be on there.

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Hey, I'm not going to join you guys in editing the wiki but I want to make a suggestion, get rid of the Just Another Fool related pages. It is a Marble Hornets wiki and it shouldn't be on there.


You know, I agree with you, but as much as I'm happy as hell to be able to add to the wiki, I'm really hesitant about taking down pages that other people have created. If Dav would weigh into the conversation, I might be less hesitant, but I don't see that happening anytime soon... might just have to leave 'em up!

Anyways, I finished Admission and Attention, based on the stuff that was already there. Most of what was left to be done was just organization and theory-unearthing, yay!

I'm thinking of moving on to 22 and 21 next (it doesn't look like they're taken, but if someone asked for them but wasn't added to the first post there, please let me know!). They miiight take a bit longer... given the content there.

I'd also like to volunteer to do speculation-unearthing for Entry #35, considering I have to tackle that daunting 50 fricking page thread anyways if I want to catch up with you crazy people. I see it's already been transcribed/organized -- nice job! That said, does anyone mind that I've been going through the wiki, putting all the Entries and tta videos into a single format? I haven't been getting rid of content that's already there, just changing the format so that everything's homogeneous, and sometimes adding details to the transcripts. If I'm stepping on anyone's toes, please let me know.

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JKatkina wrote:
Phenom wrote:
Hey, I'm not going to join you guys in editing the wiki but I want to make a suggestion, get rid of the Just Another Fool related pages. It is a Marble Hornets wiki and it shouldn't be on there.


You know, I agree with you, but as much as I'm happy as hell to be able to add to the wiki, I'm really hesitant about taking down pages that other people have created. If Dav would weigh into the conversation, I might be less hesitant, but I don't see that happening anytime soon... might just have to leave 'em up!

Anyways, I finished Admission and Attention, based on the stuff that was already there. Most of what was left to be done was just organization and theory-unearthing, yay!

I'm thinking of moving on to 22 and 21 next (it doesn't look like they're taken, but if someone asked for them but wasn't added to the first post there, please let me know!). They miiight take a bit longer... given the content there.

I'd also like to volunteer to do speculation-unearthing for Entry #35, considering I have to tackle that daunting 50 fricking page thread anyways if I want to catch up with you crazy people. I see it's already been transcribed/organized -- nice job! That said, does anyone mind that I've been going through the wiki, putting all the Entries and tta videos into a single format? I haven't been getting rid of content that's already there, just changing the format so that everything's homogeneous, and sometimes adding details to the transcripts. If I'm stepping on anyone's toes, please let me know.



The reason why I ask this is because when first got into Marble Hornets I used the wiki for help, the thing was that those Just Another Fool pages got me really confused.

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The reason why I ask this is because when first got into Marble Hornets I used the wiki for help, the thing was that those Just Another Fool pages got me really confused.


No, I totally get it... you know what, you should totally PM Dav Flamerock, one of the mods of this forum, and tell him that. Or at least to get permission to go in and change it.

I'm curious -- as a newbie, did you get much out of the wiki? One of the reasons I'm getting so gung-ho about it over my spring break here is that I want the darn thing to be useful to newbies (since the forum is way too swamped these days to be!) and I'm not sure that right now it's as informative as it could be.

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 		Honestly, not really. A lot of the pages where blank.

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JKatkina wrote:
Phenom wrote:
The reason why I ask this is because when first got into Marble Hornets I used the wiki for help, the thing was that those Just Another Fool pages got me really confused.


No, I totally get it... you know what, you should totally PM Dav Flamerock, one of the mods of this forum, and tell him that. Or at least to get permission to go in and change it.

I'm curious -- as a newbie, did you get much out of the wiki? One of the reasons I'm getting so gung-ho about it over my spring break here is that I want the darn thing to be useful to newbies (since the forum is way too swamped these days to be!) and I'm not sure that right now it's as informative as it could be.


I'm typically a wikitrawler, I will find something new and read GODDAMN EVERYTHING ABOUT IT, and for a little while, I'll know just about everything about that thing. When I came upon Marble Hornets in august I very quickly found the wiki and this forum. I tried to do a wikitrawl, but there just didn't seem to be anything useful there. So instead I came here, and I read every entry topic, and some of the tta topics, I can't remember if I read the trailhead.

The wiki in it's current form is getting there. Mostly I'm looking over it for criticism so I can help make it better, but I haven't spent much time on that yet. Figured I'd comment on this from a once a newbie standpoint.

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Phenom wrote:
Honestly, not really. A lot of the pages where blank.


I thought as much! As someone who didn't find the wiki very useful, do you have any pages in particular that you really would like to see, or would like to see made a lot better? I was appalled personally when there wasn't even a PAGE for the Ark and associated theories, and I'd love to know if there are any like that that jumped out as "why the hell isn't this here?"

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I'm typically a wikitrawler, I will find something new and read GODDAMN EVERYTHING ABOUT IT, and for a little while, I'll know just about everything about that thing. When I came upon Marble Hornets in august I very quickly found the wiki and this forum. I tried to do a wikitrawl, but there just didn't seem to be anything useful there. So instead I came here, and I read every entry topic, and some of the tta topics, I can't remember if I read the trailhead.

The wiki in it's current form is getting there. Mostly I'm looking over it for criticism so I can help make it better, but I haven't spent much time on that yet. Figured I'd comment on this from a once a newbie standpoint.


Man, you must have done a LOT of reading. :O Even without the trailhead, it's a hefty volume of work. Actually, that makes you a perfect kind of person to do some wiki-work yourself, or some theory compiling, if you're up for it!

Actually, the same question I posed to Phenom applies to you. I'd love to have your input, it's always thoughtful.

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JKatkina wrote:
Playmer wrote:
I'm typically a wikitrawler, I will find something new and read GODDAMN EVERYTHING ABOUT IT, and for a little while, I'll know just about everything about that thing. When I came upon Marble Hornets in august I very quickly found the wiki and this forum. I tried to do a wikitrawl, but there just didn't seem to be anything useful there. So instead I came here, and I read every entry topic, and some of the tta topics, I can't remember if I read the trailhead.

The wiki in it's current form is getting there. Mostly I'm looking over it for criticism so I can help make it better, but I haven't spent much time on that yet. Figured I'd comment on this from a once a newbie standpoint.


Man, you must have done a LOT of reading. :O Even without the trailhead, it's a hefty volume of work.


Yeah, my girlfriend kinda hated me for a little while, we don't get to see eachother much, and I did and do try to drop everything for the times we do get to see eachother, it got her kinda irritated whenever she said what's up that I replied "Just reading the Marble Hornets threads on unfiction"

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Actually, that makes you a perfect kind of person to do some wiki-work yourself, or some theory compiling, if you're up for it!


I guess I could, when you said you were going to take on 35 because you hadn't read the thread yet, I was kinda like "FUCK, WHY DIDN'T I DO IT? I JUST FINISHED READING ALL OF IT!!!!!1111oneoneone"

If you need something checked out, tell me, I'm glad to help with any extra time I find I have. Oh and I really appreciate the mention on Entry 33! Smile

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Yeah, my girlfriend kinda hated me for a little while, we don't get to see eachother much, and I did and do try to drop everything for the times we do get to see eachother, it got her kinda irritated whenever she said what's up that I replied "Just reading the Marble Hornets threads on unfiction"

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Actually, that makes you a perfect kind of person to do some wiki-work yourself, or some theory compiling, if you're up for it!


I guess I could, when you said you were going to take on 35 because you hadn't read the thread yet, I was kinda like "FUCK, WHY DIDN'T I DO IT? I JUST FINISHED READING ALL OF IT!!!!!1111oneoneone"

If you need something checked out, tell me, I'm glad to help with any extra time I find I have. Oh and I really appreciate the mention on Entry 33! :)


Shit dude, if anything was wiki-worthy, it was that long image analysis you did. That was really something.

I'd love to have a hand with theory-gathering -- it's the most time-consuming part of making the wiki awesome, but it also adds so freaking much to the pages. I don't want to cause relationship strife, as it were, but if you were interested in tackling the Trailhead, there is a lot in there that is worth compiling. Most of the early entries did most of their speculation there, I think. It'd be a long project but you could take it in chunks!

And you know what you should do, is get the girlfriend hooked on Marble Hornets too. >:D That was the solution in my house, and well, it seems to have worked smashingly. Romantic dinners? Who needs those when you can THEORIZE together?!

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 		One thing you guys should do is post anaylis videos people made for the totheark videos.

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One thing you guys should do is post anaylis videos people made for the totheark videos.


I don't know about that. There are a lot of analysis videos that are of very dubious usefulness. If we posted any of them, we'd have to be really selective and only include the ones that have something unique to offer. It'd be an incentive for people to put out really thoughtful and insightful videos, I guess!

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 		I wouldn't exactly call theorizing romantic, though both being excited for the next episode is more fun than one person being nervous and the other rolling their eyes!

The new pages look fine to me. Before the updates, I never really looked at the wiki; it was not very coherent and the pages weren't really any more informative than reading through the threads. I think that since there's been so much more chatter in the threads now (comparing to last season, each video has, it seems twice as much!) having a wiki that's neatly laid out like you're working on now is going to be nice. If people keep it in that format and up to date, I'll probably just head to the wiki and read through that, as opposed to trying to keep up with the forum!

For the TTA analysis videos, you could perhaps include the best one or couple of ones? Make it so that not every one gets in, only the ones that seem to contribute in a coherent and concise sort of way? I'd prefer to read analysis than listen to someone doing the same, myself.

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JKatkina wrote:
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Yeah, my girlfriend kinda hated me for a little while, we don't get to see eachother much, and I did and do try to drop everything for the times we do get to see eachother, it got her kinda irritated whenever she said what's up that I replied "Just reading the Marble Hornets threads on unfiction"


And you know what you should do, is get the girlfriend hooked on Marble Hornets too. >Very Happy That was the solution in my house, and well, it seems to have worked smashingly. Romantic dinners? Who needs those when you can THEORIZE together?!


See, I tried, but I couldn't help but like point out the Operator every time, and it kinda ruined it for her. She's promised to watch Season 2 next time she comes over, but she's just not really the type to theorize about series generally speaking. It has to really hook her, like Inception.

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JKatkina wrote:
Actually, that makes you a perfect kind of person to do some wiki-work yourself, or some theory compiling, if you're up for it!


If you need something checked out, tell me, I'm glad to help with any extra time I find I have. Oh and I really appreciate the mention on Entry 33! Smile


Shit dude, if anything was wiki-worthy, it was that long image analysis you did. That was really something.

I'd love to have a hand with theory-gathering -- it's the most time-consuming part of making the wiki awesome, but it also adds so freaking much to the pages. I don't want to cause relationship strife, as it were, but if you were interested in tackling the Trailhead, there is a lot in there that is worth compiling. Most of the early entries did most of their speculation there, I think. It'd be a long project but you could take it in chunks!


I'd be willing to do it, but I think I'd need some help, someone to kinda do it with over skype or aim or something. I think I'd go insane doing that, even if I didn't do it the first time, and plus a lot of that stuff has been at least partially debunked, so I'd have to separate fact from fiction. I'd need someone to discuss that with, and I really don't have anyone that likes discussing that minutiae.

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JKatkina wrote:
Phenom wrote:
One thing you guys should do is post anaylis videos people made for the totheark videos.


I don't know about that. There are a lot of analysis videos that are of very dubious usefulness. If we posted any of them, we'd have to be really selective and only include the ones that have something unique to offer. It'd be an incentive for people to put out really thoughtful and insightful videos, I guess!


Ones that show the hidden audio and visuals so see whats there actually saying(like the one that really says "Alex,Brian").

Other suggestions:
*Post copies of the posts J put on SA.
*I heard there was hidden frames and audio in Entry 23, if would be good if you post that
*More pictures of characters, Theres not 1 pic of J on the wiki

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 		Ooh, some images would be useful in the character descriptions, I agree! Nice idea!

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