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[SPEC] The Big Question
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distilled
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[SPEC] The Big Question
Why is this happening?

I've been thinking about starting this thread for a while, and I believe the discussion we could have here doesn't really belong in any other existing thread. Feel free to flame me down good'n'proper if you disagree.

Currently there is a lot of debate about what Masky is up to, who Jessica is, where Alex is etc. What I have seen barely anything of is speculation about the reason behind it all, the big question: Why is this happening?

Why did Slenderman begin to stalk Alex/the MH crew in the first place?

Why do you think this is happening? Speculate away...
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 5:05 am
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8bitFilk
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I think it's purely down to bad luck.

They were filming Marble Hornets and they just happened to stumble across him. Maybe they started filming in a place significant to him (the red tower springs to mind), or maybe their paths just crossed.

This is the impression I've always had anyway, but it's not really based on any solid evidence.

I'm interested to see if anyone else has come up with anything different though.

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ZaqCass
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I'm going to have to agree with 8bit

Whereas in TT, where I'msure Milo and Noah saw Slendy take out the other kid, I think the MH crew stumbled upon The Operator by sheer unfortunate happenstance
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I would have to say just pure happenstance as well, though I can't be sure. also, what happened to Alex's dog?

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bobthecrusher wrote:
I would have to say just pure happenstance as well, though I can't be sure. also, what happened to Alex's dog?


J has said that as far as he knows, Alex took it with him when he moved away.

I'm going with the "dumb bad luck" theory too, with the unfortunate addition of the Operator being intrigued or annoyed or otherwise his attention caught by Alex's camera.

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distilled
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Happenstance? Wrong place at the wrong time? Come on guys...

Where's the insane theories?

What if the story hinges around the idea that the Star Wars story was based on actual events which occurred a long long time ago... What about if Alex is actually a distant descendant of Obi Wan Kenobi? Slenderman is a tulpa created by the midget who was inside the R2D2 costume (in the 70s adaptation of real life events) - driven mad by darkness and solitude inside his metal shell he created a monster to punish those responsible for inspiring the Star Wars franchise.

Masky is George Lucas (the last in a long line of Jedi), trying to right the wrongs he has committed.




...J is an Ewok.




EDIT: Apologies, brain melt. I do actually want to bring up the debate about the real motivations behind the Slendy haunting... back on topic!

EMH and TT have both alluded to there being a specific background which Slenderman is playing on when he tortures the characters - I just wondered whether anyone felt there was a similar thing going on in MH.
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MikeBlumenthal
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Slenderman is actually the ghost of Gene Siskel, risen from the grave to punish those involved with the making of Marbel Hornets (the movie, not the series), with it's shitty acting and terrible name.

When he KO'd J in the Slenderbasement, he actually shouted 'THUMBS DOWN'.

True story.

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As much as the 'bad luck, shit happens' theory is probably the most realistic root of the Operator's activity in this series, I like to think one of a few other options could totally fall in the realm of 'plausible'.

(Just as a preface, I know that a lot of these are based on / taken from other forum posters from Season 2 entry threads. If you feel wronged, PM me and I'll forward you a copy of one of the Chili's coupons I get every week in my inbox as an apology.)

First, that the Operator (a malevolent paranormal extra-dimensional being, we'll assume from here on out) has a specific aversion to cameras, and like said above, was irritated by the presence of the equipment near his 'grounds' (the Red Tower, for instance, and probably too the bathhouse/basement-o-doom). Assuming this, Masky/TTA could be others who are following the Operator and took interest in Jay/Alex/MH because something about them draws the Operator in. Maybe MH is the kind of evidence TTA was looking for in his/her/its research into the Operator, and now TTA wants to keep pushing Jay forward to find out more.

On the other hand, maybe TTA/Masky wants Jay to stop looking into things? By rounding up two people close to the activity (Jessica and Jay) they were collecting them to keep them away from the Operator. The only big problem with that is that he/they wouldn't have left Jay with his equipment if that was the case, so this theory is a bit bunk in my opinion.

I've also considered that TTA/Masky did do something that brought the Operator into existence in our 'dimension'. My guess is that the 'ark' in this case is either a) something that brought about the Operator's existence, and must be used/destroyed to get rid of him or b) some sort of weapon that can be used to get rid of the Operator. On the flip side, the 'ark' could be something used to control the Operator, assuming TTA isn't benevolent and wants to use the Operator to some evil ends. Or it could be something else entirely. I remember somebody referencing the Ark of the Covenant, and I'm sure somebody's mentioned the other Biblical Ark (Noah's) so the 'ark' could also possibly be something used to shield people from the Operator, or something to keep them safe when the Operator does something massive (considering TTA uses terms like 'deluge' and has images of rain storms in the videos, it could be using some Biblical imagery to describe whatever the 'ark' is).

So far, I'm sort of undecided on where I'm at personally on it. I'm sure a lot more research could be done into these theories to support or debunk them, and I welcome it warmly. I'm much more interested in the journey than the destination, otherwise I wouldn't be so eager to be a part of this series. I could've left it off after watching 26 and assumed the story over, but they kept going, and it's hopefully gonna answer a lot more and raise a lot more questions as time goes on. It's why I love MH so much (also the shit-scaring moments... those are awesome too).

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ArkyMcArkArk
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redherring wrote:

I've also considered that TTA/Masky did do something that brought the Operator into existence in our 'dimension'.


Could it be... TTA IS VICTOR SURGE?!?!1 (Over-emphasis)

Seriously though, I like the direction you're going the best. I'd certainly prefer to think Slenderman's stalking of Alex was no unhappy accident. And whatever it is, I'm sure the ARK is related to it, though I have no idea to what degree.

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I don't know why this is happening, but I'll throw in a crazy theory that I don't really believe.

Jessica is Totheark! Very Happy Discuss.

Oh, and the Operator killed Kennedy. Just saying.

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Mitsukai Mizu Amaya
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Just thought of this; what if Slenderman/ the Operator was drawn to Alex? If that area was Slendy's 'hunting grounds' so to speak, wouldn't stand to reason that Alex may have run into him before? In the SA post, J talks about how Alex stopped MH because of 'unworkable conditions' due to where it was to be filmed, which to him made no sense because Alex had been living in that area since he was eight:

"When I asked him why, he told me it was because of the "unworkable conditions" of where he had picked to shoot. Which struck me as very odd since he had been living around that area since he was eight, and never seemed to have a problem with it."

What if he came into contact with Slendy as a child or prior, forgot about it somehow, and Slenderman came back for him... the rest of the MH crew being collateral damage and/or Slendy took interest in them as well.

I posted a similar theory about Jessica that relies on her being part of the MH crew... not sure what I believe yet. n.n

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Mitsukai Mizu Amaya wrote:
Just thought of this; what if Slenderman/ the Operator was drawn to Alex?

. . .

What if he came into contact with Slendy as a child or prior, forgot about it somehow, and Slenderman came back for him... the rest of the MH crew being collateral damage and/or Slendy took interest in them as well.

The main hole in this theory is that Alex wasn't affected until after Tim started getting affected.

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Oscar Langley
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Slenderman is the ghost of Sarah The Operator, who killed herself after the whole "dial directly to who you wanna call" thing came into effect and lost her her job. Upon death The Video Demons flew up to her and requested that she do their bidding in exchange for her life.

And so now she hunts down kids who make terrible movies with video cameras.

..Actually I'm gonna go with dumb luck.

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I've always thought it was a random event.

We know Slenderman is not of this world, even possibly universe - but I am sure that whatever plane it comes from requires it to feed. It could be that Slenderman was trapped in our reality from its own, and thus must survive here until it can find it's way back - but still having the use of it's incredible powers.

To me, Slenderman is like a predator. It waits and sizes up its prey - in this case, being the cast of Marble Hornets - Tim, Jay, Brian, Seth and Sarah. It then seems to tease them a bit(the numerous entries where Alex and the others have had experiences with Slenderman) - to see which one is the strongest and which are the weakest.

Eventually as it learns more about the prey, it begins to appear more and more and finally strike out at them - such as with Alex and Seth, and I am sure Brian, Sarah and Tim. It seems Alex was the last one to fall under Slenderman's spell, so it possibly judged him to be the strongest of his group.

Jay however, was a cog in Slenderman's hunt. It thought it had taken care of him("they're gone..Tim, Jay, Sarah..") but he keeps coming back, and Slenderman, like any good predator, will go after its prey until it is sustenance.

And with ToTheArk, it is quite possible that Slenderman needs a useful tool to continue it's hunt. It is possible that out of the cast of Marble Hornets, it chose the one with the weakest resistance to break down and make it's "tracker", in order to "mark" spots to hunt down Jay or the others.

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