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Salkovich
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xxxblindxxx wrote:


those scenarios seem more out of a character then a small hiccup with the hotel. J doesnt definitively have the power of tping. he is just always around it. Masky definitely can tp and might be able to allow J to tp through his doors. plus if J ran and tped down the hall, how did masky come out of the door next to his? it just doesnt add up. i could see jessica's room being a decoy but thats child's play for masky =if= tta.


I never said that Jay definitively has the ability to teleport. We don't even know that MASKY does. It's possible it's an Operator-specific thing only.

The point is, we were shown a definite series of events that clearly show Jay and Masky exiting out of different doors than those belonging to Jay and Jessica. I'm of the mind to not consider this an accident. That's all we know.

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xxxblindxxx wrote:
those scenarios seem more out of a character then a small hiccup with the hotel. J doesnt definitively have the power of tping. he is just always around it. Masky definitely can tp and might be able to allow J to tp through his doors. plus if J ran and tped down the hall, how did masky come out of the door next to his? it just doesnt add up. i could see jessica's room being a decoy but thats child's play for masky =if= tta.


I disagree. Troy and Joseph know their viewership better than to showcase such a "mild hiccup" and not expect us to pick up on it.

Putting a theory forward, Masky may have come out the door next to the one Jay came out of in order to preserve the illusion in-game. If we go with the theory that Masky was setting Jay up to think that Jessica was gone, and therefore that Masky has control over the making of warp-doors, then it was in his best interests not to bring Jay's attention to the door discrepancy. Therefore, he would have used his crazy weird warp-door skills to make it look like Jay had come out of Jessica's room by making it also look like HE was coming out of JAY'S room.

Or alternately, that he was simply warp-dooring a couple doors down so as to catch up with Jay. But the idea that Masky was setting Jay up to think that Jessica had disappeared seems really solid in light of this warp-door business, so I'd have to go with that one. I mean, even scaring Jay into bolting plays into it well -- the more panicked he has Jay, the less likely Jay is to notice that he came out of a door other than Jessica's.

(totally off topic, but: blind, I have to giggle every time I read your posts. While I know what you're trying to say, in my house, "tp" stands for "toilet paper"!)

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iTellTale
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JKatkina wrote:
xxxblindxxx wrote:
those scenarios seem more out of a character then a small hiccup with the hotel. J doesnt definitively have the power of tping. he is just always around it. Masky definitely can tp and might be able to allow J to tp through his doors. plus if J ran and tped down the hall, how did masky come out of the door next to his? it just doesnt add up. i could see jessica's room being a decoy but thats child's play for masky =if= tta.


I disagree. Troy and Joseph know their viewership better than to showcase such a "mild hiccup" and not expect us to pick up on it.

Putting a theory forward, Masky may have come out the door next to the one Jay came out of in order to preserve the illusion in-game. If we go with the theory that Masky was setting Jay up to think that Jessica was gone, and therefore that Masky has control over the making of warp-doors, then it was in his best interests not to bring Jay's attention to the door discrepancy. Therefore, he would have used his crazy weird warp-door skills to make it look like Jay had come out of Jessica's room by making it also look like HE was coming out of JAY'S room.

Or alternately, that he was simply warp-dooring a couple doors down so as to catch up with Jay. But the idea that Masky was setting Jay up to think that Jessica had disappeared seems really solid in light of this warp-door business, so I'd have to go with that one. I mean, even scaring Jay into bolting plays into it well -- the more panicked he has Jay, the less likely Jay is to notice that he came out of a door other than Jessica's.

(totally off topic, but: blind, I have to giggle every time I read your posts. While I know what you're trying to say, in my house, "tp" stands for "toilet paper"!)


Along with it not being a mild hiccup, I'll reiterate that Troy stated something along the lines of all the hotel shots were filmed in one go, making it very strange if they got two full suites like that.

And I fully agree with pretty much all of those theories being plausible, though I lean towards Masky setting J up to think Jessica was gone.

(Also, I'm glad I'm not the only one who read tp as "toilet paper")

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Salkovich
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JKatkina wrote:


Putting a theory forward, Masky may have come out the door next to the one Jay came out of in order to preserve the illusion in-game. If we go with the theory that Masky was setting Jay up to think that Jessica was gone, and therefore that Masky has control over the making of warp-doors, then it was in his best interests not to bring Jay's attention to the door discrepancy. Therefore, he would have used his crazy weird warp-door skills to make it look like Jay had come out of Jessica's room by making it also look like HE was coming out of JAY'S room.

Or alternately, that he was simply warp-dooring a couple doors down so as to catch up with Jay. But the idea that Masky was setting Jay up to think that Jessica had disappeared seems really solid in light of this warp-door business, so I'd have to go with that one. I mean, even scaring Jay into bolting plays into it well -- the more panicked he has Jay, the less likely Jay is to notice that he came out of a door other than Jessica's.


Why couldn't it be both? It's handy for Masky to be able to get after Jay quick - after all, we don't know for sure that Masky wouldn't have wanted to capture Jay if he could - AND set up the Jessica deception.

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 		I have one major issue with the Teleporting theory, if someone can tell me why this is, and not just a trick of the camera, than I'll start believing. If J went into the other room, and it somehow teleported him to a different room than why did nothing in J's room change?J didn't seem to think there was anything wierd about Jessica's room either, so I don't think it was an entirely different room, and if he teleported to a different room, than why was masky seen coming out of the adjoining room? Did he move both of the rooms, intact? It just doesn't seem likely to me....

This is going nowhere fast, neither side is going to change its opinions until we see another video with more evidence, I think we may have missed something in the video, something that was there and we were distracted by masky, did anyone see anything Noteworthy in the background? How do we know that masky wasn't staying in Jessica's room the entire time, hiding, and when J decided they were leaving he needed to get her to stay somehow?

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 		I find it weird that 1102 is 2011 backwards. But maybe that's just me.

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Salkovich wrote:
Why couldn't it be both? It's handy for Masky to be able to get after Jay quick - after all, we don't know for sure that Masky wouldn't have wanted to capture Jay if he could - AND set up the Jessica deception.

It could well be both! In fact, that would make sense. I'm assuming he had one or the other primary intention... but I guess which-came-first really isn't that important.

bobthecrusher wrote:
I have one major issue with the Teleporting theory, if someone can tell me why this is, and not just a trick of the camera, than I'll start believing. If J went into the other room, and it somehow teleported him to a different room than why did nothing in J's room change?J didn't seem to think there was anything wierd about Jessica's room either, so I don't think it was an entirely different room, and if he teleported to a different room, than why was masky seen coming out of the adjoining room? Did he move both of the rooms, intact? It just doesn't seem likely to me....

I'm not sure exactly why you think anything in Jay's room SHOULD have changed. The idea is that Jay was in his room, left through a warp door to a room that he thought was Jessica's but was not Jessica's, went back through BACK into his own room, and then exited through the still-open warp door, to the not-Jessica's room as he fled from Masky, thus meaning that he came out further down the hall than he would have coming out of actually-Jessica's room. Therefore, nothing in Jay's room would have changed.

Anyways, if you grasp the basic premise, the rest follows -- Masky came out of the adjoining room because THAT room was the one that Jay had teleported to, and thus assumedly the one that Masky had set up.

Additionally, we've never really thoroughly seen the inside of Jessica's room, so we wouldn't be able to really tell if the room that Jay entered looked any different than the room that Jessica had been living in.

The Raven wrote:
I find it weird that 1102 is 2011 backwards. But maybe that's just me.

It's not just you. That's been brought up a bunch of times in this thread.

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bobthecrusher wrote:
I have one major issue with the Teleporting theory, if someone can tell me why this is, and not just a trick of the camera, than I'll start believing. If J went into the other room, and it somehow teleported him to a different room than why did nothing in J's room change?J didn't seem to think there was anything wierd about Jessica's room either, so I don't think it was an entirely different room, and if he teleported to a different room, than why was masky seen coming out of the adjoining room? Did he move both of the rooms, intact? It just doesn't seem likely to me....

This is going nowhere fast, neither side is going to change its opinions until we see another video with more evidence, I think we may have missed something in the video, something that was there and we were distracted by masky, did anyone see anything Noteworthy in the background? How do we know that masky wasn't staying in Jessica's room the entire time, hiding, and when J decided they were leaving he needed to get her to stay somehow?


Nobody "moved the rooms". Warp doors just lead to different rooms than they should. Jay's room wasn't any different because it was still his room. He left his room through the warp door, then came back through the same doorway, into his own room.

And, arguably, "Jessica's" room does look a bit different. In #32, the sofa in the corner looks black or dark blue, and in #33 it is white. It could just be lighting, but how could the lights in that room change to make a chair look a completely different color?

I just don't see how this could have been an OOG accident. If they really were forced to get different rooms, they would have avoided making such a glaring continuity error knowing we would notice it.

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Salty wrote:
Nobody "moved the rooms". Warp doors just lead to different rooms than they should.


^ This, because J made a point to tell her to leave her door open. Didn't look like J did in 33 when he opened it. So the room he walked into (if the teleportation theory is right) was a different room than Jess's.

Her door looked almost completely open...and in 32 she left it cracked. Maybe she opened her door looking for J and now she's wandering around in the "real world" or "another dimension" looking for him?

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bobthecrusher wrote:
This is going nowhere fast, neither side is going to change its opinions until we see another video with more evidence, I think we may have missed something in the video, something that was there and we were distracted by masky, did anyone see anything Noteworthy in the background? How do we know that masky wasn't staying in Jessica's room the entire time, hiding, and when J decided they were leaving he needed to get her to stay somehow?


I have to agree here, the entire argument is getting us nowhere. Shall we let it lie? This effort being put into proving each other wrong could be used for something else like trying to find more within the entry. There's no more evidence (that I've seen) to present for either side, so we might as well push the teleportation to the backs of our minds for now.

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 		there is no door warping going on at all...weve all been seeing it wrong. watch closely. masky comes from jessicas room. pulls the door back and charges jay. jay runs back into jessicas room and closes the dividing room door on masky and leaves through jessicas room door. when j turns around and films u can see her door is still open, cause he just left through it. than masky opens jays door and runs after him. masky i believe was watching jessica and jay, new that her face being filmed was a threat and that it would lead to slender man making another hit, so he took her away, into some unkown place, like where jay went in entry 23 or 24. which ever it was. them being there was purposely done. in adjoining rooms. or slender man did get a hold of her and to the ark was to late.

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 		1. I lol'd at Jay's exasperated "oh, great" at 0:48. Like people getting teleported away is just a minor nuisance by now.

2. Did anybody else notice how Masky moved when first he rushed at Jay? Jay's standing right next to the bed and Masky somehow slips between, and ends up on Jay's left at pretty much the speed of sound. idk, that whole fight scene was odd.

3. Masky probably left the tapes there. He's always had a bunch of extra relevant footage. He was also probably the one to leave the combination sitting there, knowing Jay would open it and grab the tapes. Then he could chase Jay out.

Why? Masky's using Jay ("You will take me, to the ark"), and the tapes will get Jay to go there. Masky will follow. Maybe the tapes will shed light on what happened in the 7 missing months, and that'll be tied in to finding the ark?

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 		Guys.. and girls.. let's not turn beer farts into picasso paintings. No teleportation happened here. Playing ghosthunters with different angles of light and reflections doesn't do anything.

There has been distortion multiple times around Jessica's room and the reason J knocks on her knock is because SHE invites him to.

It's clearly a setup, and she is in on the plot as well. Now Jessica may not be a willing participant, she is involved somehow with Masky.

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sp103 wrote:
Guys.. and girls.. let's not turn beer farts into picasso paintings.

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sp103 wrote:
It's clearly a setup, and she is in on the plot as well. Now Jessica may not be a willing participant, she is involved somehow with Masky.

That has definitely been my view from the moment I first viewed the entry. The alternative is just too... untidy for my taste, I guess.

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 		masky, comes from jess room....hes pulling the divider door back...charges jay, they scrap. jay runs into jessicas room. he then closes the dividing door again. maybe both but who cares..than right after that he turns to his ledt. opens jessicas room door which leads to the hall way. he than runs and films back wards. as he is filming backwards you can clearly see jess room door open, cause jay just went through it. than masky opens jays door, which is the room they were fighting in and the room jay left him in. and starts chasing jay again.

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