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TheNightmareComplex
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And that's hardly my fault.

I reiterate them because someone has to, I shouldn't stop just because it doesn't work.

Who knows? Maybe everyone will stop letting other people's opinions offend them. Because believe it or not, you shouldn't be offended by an opinion, because it is just an opinion, and nothing you do or say will change that in most cases. Who cares if he thinks EMH is shit? EMH doesn't need his fan base in that case. Let him squander his time on some other free entertainment.
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Lewa
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TheNightmareComplex wrote:
And that's hardly my fault.

I reiterate them because someone has to, I shouldn't stop just because it doesn't work.

Who knows? Maybe everyone will stop letting other people's opinions offend them. Because believe it or not, you shouldn't be offended by an opinion, because it is just an opinion, and nothing you do or say will change that in most cases. Who cares if he thinks EMH is shit? EMH doesn't need his fan base in that case. Let him squander his time on some other free entertainment.
Yeah, but my posts weren't made for the purposes of changing his opinion. Just putting my own out there, for whoever may be reading it. I've been thinking for a while how the people whining about EMH sound a lot like the ones who whined about LOST. This seemed like a good place to write down that observation.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 11:52 am
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The Criticism Consensus

EverymanHYBRID: Likable characters but boring videos, lame execution, and convoluted story.
TribeTwelve: Amazing effects but lame acting, slow pacing, and they copyed MH in the beginning.
MarbleHornets: Great excecution but slow pacing, lack of ARGness, and unrealistic nonchalantness.
Other Vlogs: They have their moments, but most copy the above three and spam their videos with the same mysterious letters, operator symbols, and TTA style videos.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 11:55 am
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StereotypicalName
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I think EMH was, is, and will be great. I love the plot, and it really had it going with the Letters, Rake, Slendy, and breaking Damsel out of jail. Then of course crazy Evan with the knife talking to himself. HABIT was epic at first. Buuuuuut, the huge problem I have with the series right now, is that for those of us who weren't able to get in the trials, it has been extremely boring. When the trials are over, the and the series picks up again, I will run back to it. Right now, MH and TT have me hooked. Mainly MH.

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sp103
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There has been some great points in replies here. Nightmare complex is correct to say you shouldn't be offended with an opinion. That's all it is.


In the reference to the Cloverfield ARG, that was in my opinion a great ARG. The difference I find is that ARG in comparison to EMH is that it had smooth progression. Slusho-Tagruato-Tideowave-Jamie and Teddy-etc. It had a nice flow. EMH spawned a bunch of side-youtube sites, twitters, blog sites etc practically all at once which hit the observer (me) too quick for my taste.

the last point someone brought up is that EMH, TT and other don't want to step on the toes of the slenderman myth. What I'm saying is these spin-offs SHOULD take the step forward on the myth. There is no copyright issue here. If EMH identifies Slenderman as say the devil's assistant and TT indentifies Slenderman as a ghost, that's fine. That's the key.

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StereotypicalName wrote:
I think EMH was, is, and will be great. I love the plot, and it really had it going with the Letters, Rake, Slendy, and breaking Damsel out of jail. Then of course crazy Evan with the knife talking to himself. HABIT was epic at first. Buuuuuut, the huge problem I have with the series right now, is that for those of us who weren't able to get in the trials, it has been extremely boring. When the trials are over, the and the series picks up again, I will run back to it. Right now, MH and TT have me hooked. Mainly MH.
Since I've already written too much about LOST here, I'll reference it again for anybody who watched it. I see the Trials as being similar to The Lost Experience. That was an ARG that seemed to be connected to LOST, but was ultimately unimportant to the show itself. It never really tied into any of the show's mysteries, and was basically just a way of distracting the most fanatic fans during the hiatus. The Trials seem similar so far. All of our characters have left the Trials, so the Trials won't be impacting them. It's just something for some of the fans to do. And maybe a way for them to get some amusement from us, rather than vice versa.

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sp103 wrote:
the last point someone brought up is that EMH, TT and other don't want to step on the toes of the slenderman myth. What I'm saying is these spin-offs SHOULD take the step forward on the myth. There is no copyright issue here. If EMH identifies Slenderman as say the devil's assistant and TT indentifies Slenderman as a ghost, that's fine. That's the key.


Well, from a narrative perspective, yes, doing anything like that would be fine for the purposes of defining Slendy within that vlog's world. But, I think that in and of itself is part of the reason why nobody wants to take that great leap in such a direction, is that the Slender Man is effective as a tool of horror in that he hasn't been defined. The moment you define him, he loses a good deal of his scare-factor, because he loses his "fear of the unknown" factor. Sure, he'll still be plenty creepy and disturbing, but by giving him a definition he loses the edge which made him unique as a modern urban legend/monster story in the first place.

That being said, I think leaps of that sort can be made without having to truly define the Slender Man.

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OmniMan
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Kor wrote:
But, I think that in and of itself is part of the reason why nobody wants to take that great leap in such a direction, is that the Slender Man is effective as a tool of horror in that he hasn't been defined. The moment you define him, he loses a good deal of his scare-factor, because he loses his "fear of the unknown" factor. Sure, he'll still be plenty creepy and disturbing, but by giving him a definition he loses the edge which made him unique as a modern urban legend/monster story in the first place.

That being said, I think leaps of that sort can be made without having to truly define the Slender Man.


I totally agree with this. I hope Slender Man is never defined, in identity or motive. That's what makes him scary.

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TheNightmareComplex
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If the consensus on EMH says that their videos are boring, then I've lost hope for this fanbase entirely. I will support them on my own, with my fists.

And I will raise my hands above us, EMH shining in the sun
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TheNightmareComplex wrote:
If the consensus on EMH says that their videos are boring, then I've lost hope for this fanbase entirely. I will support them on my own, with my fists.

And I will raise my hands above us, EMH shining in the sun


I don't think any of their videos are boring, and I don't get why people complain that there are so many story elements. If you want something more basic, go watch something more basic.

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Compared to Lost, this is nothing. This series is fun in my eyes and I like the direction it's taking, whatever direction that is. These days, if you can keep my attention long enough, then you're worth it.

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TheWorld
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Too much stuff in EMH, really? But, on the flip side, if the story was simple everyone would be complaining how simple it was. IMO I prefer more complex stories. Makes a good ARG, too.

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Everyone's entitled to their opinion so I won't rag on anyone for saying they think EMH is boring or don't like it. However I do want to throw my two cents in about it being too complicated or hard to follow. It really really isn't. There aren't THAT many elements. And since posting here has seemed to be less frequent and crazy in the last month or two (may or may not be correlated to the amount of updates but even with the last two videos there hasn't been much discussion.) it is now much easier to just pop over here and check out the news thread for updates on new videos and new developments. It's also fairly easy to just make a folder of bookmarks of all the youtubes and the wiki and whatnot and check things once in a while. And to be perfectly honest, you don't need to look at all of it all the time. If you check out the news thread here and follow the main Youtube channel, you're not likely to miss anything.
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old_familiar_way wrote:
It's also fairly easy to just make a folder of bookmarks of all the youtubes and the wiki and whatnot and check things once in a while. And to be perfectly honest, you don't need to look at all of it all the time. If you check out the news thread here and follow the main Youtube channel, you're not likely to miss anything.


Even easier throw it all into an RSS reader and be done with it. Let the reader do the work. Or just check the timeline on the wiki. We manage to update that usually within minutes of something happening, but an hour or two at the VERY most.

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old_familiar_way wrote:
Everyone's entitled to their opinion so I won't rag on anyone for saying they think EMH is boring or don't like it. However I do want to throw my two cents in about it being too complicated or hard to follow. It really really isn't. There aren't THAT many elements. And since posting here has seemed to be less frequent and crazy in the last month or two (may or may not be correlated to the amount of updates but even with the last two videos there hasn't been much discussion.) it is now much easier to just pop over here and check out the news thread for updates on new videos and new developments. It's also fairly easy to just make a folder of bookmarks of all the youtubes and the wiki and whatnot and check things once in a while. And to be perfectly honest, you don't need to look at all of it all the time. If you check out the news thread here and follow the main Youtube channel, you're not likely to miss anything.
The problem isn't how complicated it is, but the fact that they haven't closed any elements yet, which makes people wonder if they ever will. There needs to be some closure, and I hope it's soon. Anything. Solving the mysteries of Corenthal, Habit, etc. If they find out who Habit is in the next video, I would very much appreciate that. The fanbase would love it, because some progress is happening.

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