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SPOILERS! Tron 3 teaser
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Drewsko
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Just want to add something about the identity of the Flynn Lives guy in the scene: it seems pretty obivous if you read the Flynn Lives forums that ZackAttack isn't an Encom employee, unless you think Zack's keeping it secret (his reaction to learning ISOlated Thinker was of Encom "The Lurker is one of THEM?!!" doesn't really promote that).

If anything, this guy in the scene is Mako. He's the only FL forum poster that is currently still working at Encom. And seeing he has done several Encom-related things for the benefit of the group (see Circuit Cycles), it would actually make sense.

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Drewsko wrote:
Just want to add something about the identity of the Flynn Lives guy in the scene: it seems pretty obivous if you read the Flynn Lives forums that ZackAttack isn't an Encom employee, unless you think Zack's keeping it secret (his reaction to learning ISOlated Thinker was of Encom "The Lurker is one of THEM?!!" doesn't really promote that).

If anything, this guy in the scene is Mako. He's the only FL forum poster that is currently still working at Encom. And seeing he has done several Encom-related things for the benefit of the group (see Circuit Cycles), it would actually make sense.


No, but there's nothing preventing him from being a *former* Encom employee. In fact, his paranoia could easily lead to that conclusion.
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SkekTek
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Oh, I thought I should post it here. If you want a replica of the bit poster on the wall, head over to this thread. I made three posters, one for each form of the bit.

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http://www.moviehole.net/201136094-there-may-be-a-tron-3-teaser-doesnt-mean-therell-be-a-tron-3

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SILKIE wrote:
http://www.moviehole.net/201136094-there-may-be-a-tron-3-teaser-doesnt-mean-therell-be-a-tron-3

Made a quick check on the budget/box office net results.

"Underpreformed?" The thing only missed the opening weekend by 6 million, its domestic gain is just shy of the budget by about 7 million, and the overseas gain has more than covered it (guess I should get used to Hollywood's standards for box office judging. Confused )

Well, if we take this at face value, at least we know we'd better get DVD/Blu-Ray copies of this thing ASAP if we want more Tron (and Tron Viral) fun.

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One thing that doesn't make much sense in the article is how sure they are that the animated Tron: Uprising will arrive in 2012. If the film did so poorly, and the series is so far out, they've got plenty of time to kill it and do something else in its stead. If Disney is so dedicated to the animated series, I have a much harder time believing they are being so hesitant about another Tron film. I find it more likely that if we don't see a third Tron film, we won't see the animated series either.

I also find it funny they tie the fates of Tron and The Black Hole. Similar time frames perhaps, but not a perfectly concurrent fan base. Tron was actually for a much more mature audience really, and The Black Hole was aimed way lower. I thought it was fun when I was younger, but when I saw the film again years later my immediate thought was 'this sucks!'. (Sorry Disney, in some respects all of us have to grow up.)
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Awesome if this stuff is legit... Shocked

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Well, I hear the date for the DVD release is supposed to be April 5th. I guess we'll see then if the teaser stuff is true.

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Christien wrote:
Well, I hear the date for the DVD release is supposed to be April 5th. I guess we'll see then if the teaser stuff is true.
ooh what a cool birthday present!

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Collider is reporting that the rumor for a TRON 3 trailer is unfortunately false. In other, happier, news there's Amazon.com listings for the Blu-ray releases and it looks awesome! I just hope they don't charge the same kind of outrageous prices they did for the Collector's Editions of TRON: Evolution and the soundtrack.

http://collider.com/tron-3-trailer-tron-legacy-blu-ray/74409/#more-74409

EDIT: Now that I've actually read the previous story all the way, it looks like all that footage will be on the Blu-Ray release, but it just won't be in the form of a trailer for TRON 3.

EDIT 2: I was thinking about this, and I think, unfortunately, even if a third TRON film gets green lit I don't think there will be a continuation of Flynn Lives. TRON: Legacy was a moderate success at the box office, it did better than anything else in a month when ticket sales were half what they were the previous year, it also has made more than twice it's production budget back in ticket sales world wide.

The problem though, is that Disney spent at least as much marketing the film as they did making it, probably more. They expected this to be a monumental box office smash that would grab the attention of audiences everywhere in the same way Pirates of the Caribbean did, so they put a ton of stock into this film, and in the end, it just barely broke even. So unless home video and merchandise sales just explode, if we see TRON 3, it'll be with a lot less fanfare attached to it.

An ARG on the scale of Flynn Lives is hugely expensive, and it's also a non-standard way of marketing which means when they're cutting costs on the promotion end of TRON 3, an ARG will be the first thing to go.

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Yeah, the more I read about this, the more I think it's just bonus content directed at us Flynn Livers. Which is still awesome Smile

Also, just a thought:
As we have multiple confirmations of people being asked for their Flynn Lives usernames at the last drops, and we have yet to see those used.. and the video footage from all the final drops have never showed up..
I am thinking maybe they will add some of this as bonus content on the dvd.
Just maybe a Flynn Lives compilation. That would be awesome.

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IllusionOfLife wrote:
... I think, unfortunately, even if a third TRON film gets green lit I don't think there will be a continuation of Flynn Lives...


I agree with most everything you said. Here's my thoughts.

First up, I am still really hoping for a TRON 3 movie. I am not sure I agree that the movie really cost $170m in production, and I'm even less inclined to think Disney paid that much in marketing. If the Disney execs consider Legacy a "moderate success", it really depends on what "moderate success" means. A "moderate success" in my mind does not mean "break even", it means some kind of profit.

I keep looking at TANGLED to see how much better it does than TRON, because in my mind, that somewhat determines where Disney execs pour their resources into. I'm sure they consider TRON a franchise, and Tangled (currently) isn't, but Disney could pretty much do whatever they want with their properties.

If they "green light" T3, I too agree that an ARG continuation for it is unlikely UNLESS Disney replaces some traditional marketing efforts with an ARG marketing effort. That to me seems like a possibility. I don't totally agree that an ARG would be the first thing to go on a reduced marketing budget. Not sure if they would give up a Comicon presence, or less flying around the principles of the new film for promotions, or what, but they certainly can decide how to spend their marketing dollars. But wondering whether the Flynn Lives ARG will continue or not is putting the horse before the cart. We need a green lit T3 for any hope, IMHO.

As far as DVD/BlueRay sales being a factor, I kinda beleive it's true, but that scares me. DVD sales as a whole are plummetting IMHO. DVD sales as a driver of revenue is not going well for the studios, and who knows when that curve of declining sales becomes a cliff. 2011? 2012? I believe it's soon in any case. I am confident in my beleif that every month that goes by means less and less DVD sales, even if it is of "blockbuster" releases like Harry Potter, Tangled, Inception or TRON Legacy. I'm secretly hoping that Tron 3 is "already greenlit" regardless of how well (or how bad) Tron on Blueray sells. I also hope that Tron on DVD is a runaway smash. I'm guessing the consensus is that if Tron Legacy is a DVD Smash, Tron 3 is a gimmie, but there's no clairvoyence there. Any DVD Smash is an excellent candidate for a follow up movie. Piranha 3DD anyone?

Just my thoughts..

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An ARG on the scale of Flynn Lives is hugely expensive, and it's also a non-standard way of marketing which means when they're cutting costs on the promotion end of TRON 3, an ARG will be the first thing to go.


Sadly, I agree. 120 Million was spent on the marketing which included the ARG. I don't think they will come close to that the next time around, so I expect them to just put their money into just traditional ads.

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Disappointing that it isn't a teaser for a sequel, but it's not really all that surprising. And hey, the footage exists and we get to see it and that is awesome.

I remain hopeful there will be positive sequel news sometime in the near future. Merchandise seems to be selling well, right? And we know that can only help.

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Box office revenues are 363 millions dollars worldwide, and there's still cash coming in. It did covered up the production cost and the marketing cost, and Disney is already making profit with the movie itself. Not counting all the merchandising, and the future BluRay/DVD sales, plus the television rights. Tron : Legaçy will make a lot of cash for Disney, so even if it wasn't the big hit they could expect, it's still a successful financial operation.

And Disney needs that. How many of their movies did really succeeded those last years ? So Tron 3 is, as far as I am concerned, very likely.

Now, for the sequel's arg, I don't know. They can still do a very entertaining ARG, without all the swag and the fake press coverage. It's not really a matter of money IMHO, it would rather be a matter of need instead. There was a twenty years long gap between the two movies; Tron Legacy will still be fresh in people's mind when they'll hear about Tron 3, so huge marketing operations would be irrelevant, I suppose.

My two cents. Smile

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