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[Slenderman Side Story] MLAndersen0
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New video is up...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJHC8cT4BoQ

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I have a splitting headache and I think I'm dying


Best Slendy Quote in a long time...I now have an excuse to say no to sex (If I don't feel like it) for the rest of my life...thanks MLA

Was a great vid as usual, though Patrick is a little over the top at times. He's more like a Ringmaster at a circus than the inmate running the asylum. [/spoiler]

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Patrick is sort of reminding me of the doctor a bit this video. The madness, how he is dressed, the cocky overconfidence and the not explaining what is going on. It is sort of like Patrick doesn't consider himself human any more.
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Holy crap, is Patrick manipulative. Got a John Shooter vibe there for a moment, when Patrick was lit by the headlights. And the tension was pretty well-done; I kept searching the background, looking for reflections and getting more tightly strung waiting for something to happen.

I kind of want to tell Shawn to jump in and go along, but I doubt anything good will come of it. Is it safer to try to control the mayhem from the inside, or not heed the final warning and risk Patrick lighting the match for real next time?

Love that MLA asks some tough questions about psych treatment, like the treating the mind at the expense of the body point raised here. Really hits home for me. I'm a sucker for is-it-madness-or-monster? plots, and this series does it so well. Is Michael's physical decline caused by Slendy exposure, or long-term (over)use of harsh medicines and the resulting withdrawls? Or is Patrick abusing the body to gain more leverage? He says Michael was doing the damage, but it's not like Patrick is taking better care of it.

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Kudos to Shawn--his acting definitely seems to be improving. I find the character highly empathetic, moreso than nearly all other Slendyvictims. And I like the longish hair.

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Not really liking this one....
I subscribed last month, hoping this will get better, but it's hard to watch Patrick act like this. And not in a "Oh no! He's so sick!" kind of way, I'm actually starting to detest the series for how much they are making Patrick this over-the-top, over cliched, and really bad character. And then the way his brother acts so nonchalant about the fact that Patrick has a really bad case of multiple personality disorder (that is, by the way, presented falsely and is borderline insulting). I understand that in cases like this, mental illness will never be presented correctly or even diagnosed correctly in vlogs, but there still has to be an ounce of truth to it. This vlog just takes the term mental illness and bends it to whatever the heck they want it to be. I'm in no way trying to present myself as a professional in this field, but I have worked with several people with a different range of severe mental illnesses much like multiple personality disorder, and I can honestly say that what is being presented in the vlog is very far from what should be presented. It's just one bad acting video after another, and the sad thing is they dug so deep with this Patrick plot that there is really no good way to turn this around. I applaud them for trying to do something different and out of the ordinary, and making this at a time in which the "Big Three" still rules. However, I think doing a lot more research behind these mental illnesses and also leave room for adjustment in the vlog could have made the series better.

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Anyone else getting a really bad vibe off of Patrick? I mean a worse vibe than what he usually gives off?

Everybody seems to be encouraging Shaun to follow Patrick's advice, but Patrick's starting to sound more and more like he's on Slendy's side. Which is a shame, since he is by far the best character in the story. Up until now, I figured Patrick was trying to fight Slenderman, but "embracing"? I don't like this...

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JiingJiing wrote:
Not really liking this one....
I subscribed last month, hoping this will get better, but it's hard to watch Patrick act like this. And not in a "Oh no! He's so sick!" kind of way, I'm actually starting to detest the series for how much they are making Patrick this over-the-top, over cliched, and really bad character. And then the way his brother acts so nonchalant about the fact that Patrick has a really bad case of multiple personality disorder (that is, by the way, presented falsely and is borderline insulting). I understand that in cases like this, mental illness will never be presented correctly or even diagnosed correctly in vlogs, but there still has to be an ounce of truth to it. This vlog just takes the term mental illness and bends it to whatever the heck they want it to be. I'm in no way trying to present myself as a professional in this field, but I have worked with several people with a different range of severe mental illnesses much like multiple personality disorder, and I can honestly say that what is being presented in the vlog is very far from what should be presented. It's just one bad acting video after another, and the sad thing is they dug so deep with this Patrick plot that there is really no good way to turn this around. I applaud them for trying to do something different and out of the ordinary, and making this at a time in which the "Big Three" still rules. However, I think doing a lot more research behind these mental illnesses and also leave room for adjustment in the vlog could have made the series better.


I'm curious, how does one act? I'd rather not Google it either. Some firsthand knowledge could help.
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I don't know if Patrick is really intended to represent realistically a separate personaliy of someone who has a disassociative disorder...

I think Patrick may more likely be a representative of something more supernatural... after all he can seem to appear and disappear almost at will, knows how to find Shaun wherever he may be...etc.

It almost seems to me that Michael is inhabited by some form of supernatural parasistic entity... he keeps on insisting that Shaun join him, and in this latest video, to "give in" to succumb. Whatever it is, it doesn't want Shaun to help Michael fight it, it wants him to JOIN it.

(sorry for the speech).

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I'm certain he only teleports with the help of Slendy. Slendy is in the scene right before Patrick, and when Shaun visits Stormy, Slendy was waiting outside the whole time possibly.
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punxtr wrote:
JiingJiing wrote:
Not really liking this one....
I subscribed last month, hoping this will get better, but it's hard to watch Patrick act like this. And not in a "Oh no! He's so sick!" kind of way, I'm actually starting to detest the series for how much they are making Patrick this over-the-top, over cliched, and really bad character. And then the way his brother acts so nonchalant about the fact that Patrick has a really bad case of multiple personality disorder (that is, by the way, presented falsely and is borderline insulting). I understand that in cases like this, mental illness will never be presented correctly or even diagnosed correctly in vlogs, but there still has to be an ounce of truth to it. This vlog just takes the term mental illness and bends it to whatever the heck they want it to be. I'm in no way trying to present myself as a professional in this field, but I have worked with several people with a different range of severe mental illnesses much like multiple personality disorder, and I can honestly say that what is being presented in the vlog is very far from what should be presented. It's just one bad acting video after another, and the sad thing is they dug so deep with this Patrick plot that there is really no good way to turn this around. I applaud them for trying to do something different and out of the ordinary, and making this at a time in which the "Big Three" still rules. However, I think doing a lot more research behind these mental illnesses and also leave room for adjustment in the vlog could have made the series better.


I'm curious, how does one act? I'd rather not Google it either. Some firsthand knowledge could help.


Well, multiple personality disorder (or Dissociative Identity Disorder if you want to look it up) is very controversial as to what the actual symptoms. However it is generally accepted that people with DID do not know of their other "personalities", though their personalities may know of the actual person, but will not be aware that they are only a mind state and will think they were two different people. Also, DID is brought on by some sort of physical abuse that triggered it, not by just taking pills as the series implies (though, that can be argued that we still have not received the full explanation as to what happened and abuse could be present and we just don't know about it yet.) Though what I mostly find strange from my own personal experiences is that Patrick's "other personality" I guess you could say, is a very strong-minded and theatric character with no evidence of weaknesses at all, something that you will never see in a person that has witnessed a traumatic event in their life. In the first three (four?) videos is actual a pretty good representation in my opinion of how someone might feel and act in those circumstances. They feel very confused, weak, and might even feel very spiritual in the sense that they will look towards non physical means (ie dreams) to look for signs, if that makes any sense. Though that is a generalization of what I have witnessed first hand, a lot of people experience things differently, you still will never find somebody that's manipulative, confident and strong willed such as Patrick, especially with a personality disorder.

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I don't know if Patrick is really intended to represent realistically a separate personaliy of someone who has a disassociative disorder...

I think Patrick may more likely be a representative of something more supernatural... after all he can seem to appear and disappear almost at will, knows how to find Shaun wherever he may be...etc.

It almost seems to me that Michael is inhabited by some form of supernatural parasistic entity... he keeps on insisting that Shaun join him, and in this latest video, to "give in" to succumb. Whatever it is, it doesn't want Shaun to help Michael fight it, it wants him to JOIN it.

(sorry for the speech).


I've thought that might be the case and they are just giving Multiple Personality Disorder as a distraction as to what's going on. But I actually hope that isn't the case, as to me (and I didn't really state this earlier as I know somebody might argue with me about my opinion on this, which I just wanted to avoid) it sounds very Mary Sue to me to do that. To have this very confident, theatrical, an manipulative character that is represented as having a severe mental illness, but is in fact actually something paranormal brought on by Slendy... yep, it sounds very Mary Sue to me. I know the term "Mary Sue" usually represents a perfect character, which Patrick obviously isn't, but I like to think it can also represent a character in which the story revolves around them (not to be confused in which a story is about someone.)

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I take it you didn't like Fight Club either?

I look at it like this: Michael couldn't handle the appearances of the clock at a young age, yet a part of him realized that if he embraced the beast he could beat it. Patrick is the embodiment of Michael's indecision and insecurity, embracing the slenderman blindly--without understanding the repercussions.

I don't expect DID Michael/Patrick to be realistic/precedented in reality. After all, the traumatic experience is a supernatural being. Reality doesn't have supernatural beings (most agree). Therefore, this series has a good deal of artistic license in that respect.

I think you were expecting something different out of the series progression, and that in order to enjoy it you have to drop all expectations and see it through to the end. You said yourself nothing has been fully explained yet.
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JiingJiing wrote:
Not really liking this one....
I subscribed last month, hoping this will get better, but it's hard to watch Patrick act like this. And not in a "Oh no! He's so sick!" kind of way, I'm actually starting to detest the series for how much they are making Patrick this over-the-top, over cliched, and really bad character. And then the way his brother acts so nonchalant about the fact that Patrick has a really bad case of multiple personality disorder (that is, by the way, presented falsely and is borderline insulting). I understand that in cases like this, mental illness will never be presented correctly or even diagnosed correctly in vlogs, but there still has to be an ounce of truth to it. This vlog just takes the term mental illness and bends it to whatever the heck they want it to be. I'm in no way trying to present myself as a professional in this field, but I have worked with several people with a different range of severe mental illnesses much like multiple personality disorder, and I can honestly say that what is being presented in the vlog is very far from what should be presented. It's just one bad acting video after another, and the sad thing is they dug so deep with this Patrick plot that there is really no good way to turn this around. I applaud them for trying to do something different and out of the ordinary, and making this at a time in which the "Big Three" still rules. However, I think doing a lot more research behind these mental illnesses and also leave room for adjustment in the vlog could have made the series better.


It's multiple Slender Man disorder. I don't think this series is trying to present DID in any way that is realistic. I dated a girl for 8 months who had DID and I know how it is as well, but that doesn't mean I'm in any way insulted by MLAnderson nor does it take away from the plot for me. In all actuality, Michael/Patrick is one of the most colorful characters in the mythos and I really enjoy watching him. This is a fantasy series above all else, I don't think they're trying to present mental illness any more realistically than Fight Club did (which is completely over the top when it comes to presenting multiple personalities).

You're entitled to your opinions of course, but I just don't think that was really their intention when creating this series. There's a tall, faceless man in a suit following them as well. We can't take everything at face (or faceless) value.

EDIT: just thought I'd share this as well



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Well, like I said before, these vlogs aren't going to be able to accurately portray mental illness, but I still think they should be portrayed within the realms of possibility. In this case, severe mental illness does not equal a very theatrical and manipulative character. And I know that a lot of people here like his character for being so colorful, which I can understand why, but from my side I feel his bad representation just takes away from the awe of watching a Slenderman series, that they are over doing it for the sake of the popularity/to increase the speed of the plot/anything besides the story. And don't get me wrong, they have great dialog, but I feel it's a dialog that's out of place for a Slenderman series.

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I think they probably have the best dialogue in any of the series.

Most of the good series seem to thrive on a good deal of improvisation and naturalism in the interaction, which keeps things from seeming too plot-driven or fake, and in the case of EMH, DH, etc. builds character, but MLA goes a step further than that in terms of the dialogue for me because even if stuff is scripted or unscripted, the dialogue is really a cut above. They took time to first build Michael's character (then Patrick's) while also delivering compelling, witty dialogue, and they also have Eric, who's a forceful presence. And Shaun, who I felt faded into the woodwork early on because he was relatively unassuming by comparison, is now thrust into the lead role for the audience to identify with, and so we have to get to know him more now too as opposed to him just being Michael's skeptical brother. Do I have a point here? No. Anyway, excellent dialogue.
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I also forget to say this: this entry is what made me like MLA again. I really detested the idea of Patrick being on the same level as Slendy, but this entry shows the contrary. Patrick is effed up trying to use Slendy for his own reasons. He is still below Slendy after all.
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