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[SPEC] The Big Question
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Lookbehindyou
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Bingo Zero Well, here's an out there theory, Jay, Jessica, and Tim are trapped in some kind of limbo, a Silent Hill-type other world (the world the inhabit is extremely sparsely populated, except the bare essential human cogs in the machine of society, so they're more like scenery than people). Alex actually escaped to go on and live a normal-ish life (when Alex said "they're all gone" he meant it literally, and Jay didn't get the tapes from him like he remembered). Jay and crew don't know they're basically ghosts, only TTA figured it out and is using Jay and his motivation to find Alex to find the bridge back to the real living world (the ark). Tapes and electronic signals seem to pass between the Slender-dimension and the real world so Jay is able to keep finding Alex's old tapes which shape his investigation and upload the videos to the internet. Despite Alex escaping, the Operator still pursues him to close off all chances of escape from his victims.


In my unposted spec I told Dray about, I made reference to this kind of theory a few weeks ago. Only my thought goes perhaps even beyond this into the absurd in that they all died on that day in the woods where the crew saw Slendy and everything that has happened since is some alternate timeline or limbo/Slendy Purgatory thing and that even our interaction isn't really "real". I even suggested that the "ark" is a vessel that will take everyone to Slendy-Hell.

My belief if this were to be true is that Alex IS the ark and that Jay and Alex meeting would allow them to each realize that they are indeed dead/gone and cause the true end of the story. This is why I think Alex and J need to stay as far away from one another as possible. It really is like putting the keymaster and the gatekeeper together, no good can come of it. If J brings up the situation to Alex again EVER, it would spell the end for all of them.

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onetruepurple
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 		Re: Warning:
this post might be total bullshit
awakeasaurusrex wrote:
Victor Surge owns copyright in the original forum posts that created Slender Man (unless there's something in the Something Awful terms of use that says you assign to SA copyright in the posts you make on that forum). He doesn't own copyright in the idea of Slender Man himself because copyright doesn't protect ideas, it protects the specific expression of an idea.

Thanks for clearing that up.
Slaughtermatic wrote:
Actually, J originally posted the first few entries in the Slenderman thread on SomethingAwful, acting completely in character the whole time. So I think that mythos IS supposed to exist in the world of MH.

J decided to start the project specifically because the Slenderman thread reminded him of Alex's tapes. Does this perhaps imply that J had met the Operator during the filming of MH, but doesn't remember it?

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 		Probably. But the point is, he posted there in character, so it does exist. That gives more merit to my theory.

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 		Actually it's the other way around. The Operator existed first, within the realm of the ARG.

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Slaughtermatic
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 		....Yes, but the point is it still exists, so Alex was able to view it, find the info about the parks, etc.

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awakeasaurusrex
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Slaughtermatic wrote:
....Yes, but the point is it still exists, so Alex was able to view it, find the info about the parks, etc.

No he wasn't.

Victor Surge's original Slender Man post was made in June of 2009.

The Marble Hornets shoot, and Alex's investigations into the Slender Man, happened in 2008.

There's definitely a Victor Surge-Jay connection, but there can't be a connection between Victor Surge's posts and Alex's original investigations - because the posts hadn't been made at that point.

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onetruepurple
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awakeasaurusrex wrote:
The Marble Hornets shoot, and Alex's investigations into the Slender Man, happened in 2008.

2006, actually.

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awakeasaurusrex
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onetruepurple wrote:
awakeasaurusrex wrote:
The Marble Hornets shoot, and Alex's investigations into the Slender Man, happened in 2008.

2006, actually.

Ah, thanks - I remembered that it was at least a couple of years before MH began but I forgot that MH began way back in 2009. Embarassed

Either way, same logic applies: though OOG obviously Victor Surge's posts were an inspiration, in-game Alex couldn't possibly have encountered the posts when Slendy invaded the set.

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onetruepurple
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 		That's right. I do like the "Victor Surge triggered Jay's repressed memory" theory, though.

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 		Hm, guess I was wrong then. Makes me wonder, why was Alex in that park?

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awakeasaurusrex wrote:
Slaughtermatic wrote:
....Yes, but the point is it still exists, so Alex was able to view it, find the info about the parks, etc.

No he wasn't.

Victor Surge's original Slender Man post was made in June of 2009.

The Marble Hornets shoot, and Alex's investigations into the Slender Man, happened in 2008.

There's definitely a Victor Surge-Jay connection, but there can't be a connection between Victor Surge's posts and Alex's original investigations - because the posts hadn't been made at that point.


Wow, I didn't realize the Victor Surge post happened so recently. It was made on June 10th, and the first few MH entries were up within two weeks. That's bizarre.

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Wow, I didn't realize the Victor Surge post happened so recently. It was made on June 10th, and the first few MH entries were up within two weeks. That's bizarre.
It'd be interesting to know whether the MH guys were planning to do a web horror series of some kind and then saw the Slender Man posts and realised that it was an idea which would be simple to do on their budget and fit perfectly with what they had originally been planning, or whether they just put together the first few entries really quickly just to jerk people's chain on the SA thread and then the project grew in the making.

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awakeasaurusrex wrote:
Salty wrote:
Wow, I didn't realize the Victor Surge post happened so recently. It was made on June 10th, and the first few MH entries were up within two weeks. That's bizarre.
It'd be interesting to know whether the MH guys were planning to do a web horror series of some kind and then saw the Slender Man posts and realised that it was an idea which would be simple to do on their budget and fit perfectly with what they had originally been planning, or whether they just put together the first few entries really quickly just to jerk people's chain on the SA thread and then the project grew in the making.

The latter sort of implies that they make it up as they go along or at least started before figuring most of it out, so even they don't know all the answers, which would kind of suck, but it isn't unlikely.

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awakeasaurusrex wrote:
Salty wrote:
Wow, I didn't realize the Victor Surge post happened so recently. It was made on June 10th, and the first few MH entries were up within two weeks. That's bizarre.
It'd be interesting to know whether the MH guys were planning to do a web horror series of some kind and then saw the Slender Man posts and realised that it was an idea which would be simple to do on their budget and fit perfectly with what they had originally been planning, or whether they just put together the first few entries really quickly just to jerk people's chain on the SA thread and then the project grew in the making.


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Actually it's a bit more of the latter than the former. Troy was wanting to work on a project and got into the Slenderman mythos stuff and just came up with a lot of stuff on the fly intending for a short series of strange videos ending with the implied death of Jay by the hands of SM. They pretty much created TTA on a whim so they could get a new perspective other than Jay's. But as it gained in popularity and their original ending being unfeasible they began taking it really seriously, you can see the difference from just the posting regularity. You should check out Troy's Q&A session and interview. It started off as just a cool idea, a student film maker being stalked by a monster and really evolved.


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 		On a less serious note, did you guys ever stop to think that maybe Slendy is just a troll and stalks J for teh lulz? Maybe Masky is also a troll, but with a more violent approach of lulz making. Maybe the first slendy sighting in MH was really Slendy, but then decided to gtfo. Then the troll came in and started generating lulz for himself? OR better yet, maybe Slenderman is a Necromorph! A new breed that not even Issac Clarke has seen!

or maybe not...

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