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[VIDEO] Entry #34
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awakeasaurusrex
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Maybe the red tower moves about.

Maybe it's Slendy's TARDIS.

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Thermal Boners wrote:
Can't believe it took this long for someone to notice this, and can't believe I was actually the one to notice something.

2:35 What up wet footprints?

http://img84.imageshack.us/i/footprints.jpg/

Nothing in this series happens by mistake, he makes a point to put the camera on them and mentioned earlier that it looked like rain.

Someone was there VERY recently.


I wonder if the footprints are J's. As Rawkz0rz mentioned up-thread, immediately following the transition from the car J is already walking away from the building.

Also, I may be seeing things, but it looks to me as though J's jeans are soaked half-way up his calves.

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Thermal Boners wrote:

EDIT EDIT HOLY CRAP EDIT: It's 4 in the afternoon on a rainy day in this video. I understand from some of the shots it's pretty clear that some sun is getting through. But does anyone else think the camera going COMPLETELY WHITE with glare as he exits the doorway doesn't make sense? And if you watch it, it looks REALLY unnatural. Not to mention the fact that he is walking pretty briskly out of the building, and after the white screen is standing still. Maybe it's just me that thinks so, but I've watched it over and over again, and it seems intentional. Can anyone say warp door? Obviously not to another place, but perhaps an hour or day ahead? You can pause the video at 4:01 and the screen is entirely white. I've never seen any camera do that, and it happens directly as he is crossing the plane of the door. Food for thought anyway, I'm excited about the idea.


Well I am pretty sure what we have here is what every camera does when you move it from a dark place into a light place, re-adjusts itself to be at the correct exposure but it can't just magically be at the right exposure suddenly, its light meter has to evaluate first, which causes the moment of overexposure(white-out) before the aperture has time to adjust his/herself. But in the not terribly likely case that it is purposeful, that would be really cool and interesting to see where, or should I say when, he ended up. Would the time-stamp on his footage change? (That's if he has a camera with a time-stamp feature)

I'm kinda hoping my knowledge from years of operating cameras(albeit almost entirely self-taught) has failed me, I really enjoy the warp-door thing that seems to keep popping up.

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Thermal Boners wrote:
Can't believe it took this long for someone to notice this, and can't believe I was actually the one to notice something.

2:35 What up wet footprints?

http://img84.imageshack.us/i/footprints.jpg/

Nothing in this series happens by mistake, he makes a point to put the camera on them and mentioned earlier that it looked like rain.

Someone was there VERY recently.

EDIT: Also, don't know if this has been noted yet, and it seems like the red tower hullabaloo has been pretty much debunked already, but I'll put it to bed with a simple observation. Jay is pretty familiar with that red tower, you know, after trekking to it, falling out of it, filming it, etc. He'd notice.

EDIT EDIT: Anyone else find it awfully odd, after all Jay's been through, how little he reacted to that metal thing falling? I mean, he was startled, but once he panned the camera over there and saw it on the ground, his thought process appeared to be 'oh, that just fell over,' as opposed to the infinitely more reasonable 'oh, there is a terrifying tall faceless man and an equally terrifying masked lunatic following my every move, and I'm in an abandoned building that is a known location of one or both of them, maybe I should see if someone knocked that over.'

EDIT EDIT HOLY CRAP EDIT: It's 4 in the afternoon on a rainy day in this video. I understand from some of the shots it's pretty clear that some sun is getting through. But does anyone else think the camera going COMPLETELY WHITE with glare as he exits the doorway doesn't make sense? And if you watch it, it looks REALLY unnatural. Not to mention the fact that he is walking pretty briskly out of the building, and after the white screen is standing still. Maybe it's just me that thinks so, but I've watched it over and over again, and it seems intentional. Can anyone say warp door? Obviously not to another place, but perhaps an hour or day ahead? You can pause the video at 4:01 and the screen is entirely white. I've never seen any camera do that, and it happens directly as he is crossing the plane of the door. Food for thought anyway, I'm excited about the idea.


In regards to the footprints, I think that's just from them doing another take. Otherwise I think J would have brought attention to them. They're pretty obvious, and I think its something he would notice. But then again, the thought of someone else having been there since the rain started is an interesting one. Perhaps a girl named Jessica?

Also, ApricotBlueberry is exactly right. A camera like theirs must readjust its aperture to the new environment. With how dark it was in that building I wouldn't be surprised if it was at the lowest f-stop to let in the most light, and when he tilts up just before he exits, all that light would flood in. Then the camera readjusts and makes it visible again.

I'm a film major and have been making stupid videos with my friends for quite a while. I'm very familiar with how cameras work, and if that's the camera seen in entry #26, I can tell you that it's very likely that it's just regular overexposure.

Though I'd love to see some time travel! Who knows- maybe his car was parked outside before, lol.

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ApricotBlueberry wrote:
Well I am pretty sure what we have here is what every camera does when you move it from a dark place into a light place, re-adjusts itself to be at the correct exposure but it can't just magically be at the right exposure suddenly, its light meter has to evaluate first, which causes the moment of overexposure(white-out) before the aperture has time to adjust his/herself. But in the not terribly likely case that it is purposeful, that would be really cool and interesting to see where, or should I say when, he ended up. Would the time-stamp on his footage change? (That's if he has a camera with a time-stamp feature)

I'm kinda hoping my knowledge from years of operating cameras(albeit almost entirely self-taught) has failed me, I really enjoy the warp-door thing that seems to keep popping up.


[Edit Before Posting] Damn @Rawkz0rz beat me to it! Wink [/Edit]

Nah, that's pretty much how cameras of that type work. Consumer cameras are usually auto-everything, and if all the entries preceding this say anything (this is pointing out that this was shot right after Entry #26 was released) the auto-focus and auto-exposure are almost always on, and can get really buggy in low-light situations (for instance, in an unlit house on an overcast day).

On the off-chance this was shot with something a bit more high-end (a 'prosumer' camera) there might be more manual exposure controls, but they're usually a bitch to operate (I have one myself..) and this seems more automated than controlled.

Dray wrote:
I want to know why he's taking time to watch through them in order; wouldn't the unlabelled ones be more likely to contain what he's looking for?

And... did he specify whether he's looking through tapes or the harddrive? I know he said some were labelled and some weren't, but I didn't catch the specifics!


I hate to call back to stuff from many pages ago, but since it came to mind as I wrote this... I think going through the tapes in order makes sense. Yes, from our perspective, it's a pain in the neck because we know by now that the 'good stuff' is on the unlabeled tapes and the HDD (c'mon!!) but from this guy's perspective, he's lost the past seven months of his life. Seeing how things went down (roughly) in order might help piece together the events and bring back some of his lost memories... not that there's a trend for that, seeing as he still has no memory of a lot of the events in the Season 1 tapes, but it's worth a shot anyway right?

And just since I'm here posting a WOT anyway, I'm getting the feeling about 99% of that graffiti is red herring. My guess is we'll see some IG-related stuff in there at some point when he inevitably looks at it more closely, but it's more likely that the graffiti was there preceding them finding this place. The bag though... I think that was them (it's just too damn creepy!)

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awakeasaurusrex
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redherring wrote:
I hate to call back to stuff from many pages ago, but since it came to mind as I wrote this... I think going through the tapes in order makes sense. Yes, from our perspective, it's a pain in the neck because we know by now that the 'good stuff' is on the unlabeled tapes and the HDD (c'mon!!) but from this guy's perspective, he's lost the past seven months of his life. Seeing how things went down (roughly) in order might help piece together the events and bring back some of his lost memories... not that there's a trend for that, seeing as he still has no memory of a lot of the events in the Season 1 tapes, but it's worth a shot anyway right?

Yeah, I think the big thing is whilst the unlabelled videos/HDD are likely to have super freaky awesome crap on it, super freaky awesome crap with no context is just not going to be useful to Jay right now. He'll have a way better shot at working out where they fit into things once he's covered the marked tapes.

To be honest, I'm just glad he's going about reviewing the tapes in a halfway sensible, methodical way.

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awakeasaurusrex wrote:
Maybe the red tower moves about.

Maybe it's Slendy's TARDIS.


THIS.

More on topic, I'm not sure if that building was the red tower, but if it were, doesn't it seem like somewhere J would know? He's been there before, he climbed it, even, but it doesn't seem like he knew the area. Could be the tower, could not be. I doubt it, but then again this entry seems like it's just a chunk of filler, or a set up for something bigger. I'm thinking we'll see that burnt out house again.

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How long will it take for Jay to watch everything he's recorded?

It took him six months (from June to December) to watch all of Alex's tapes, which was several weeks of Alex recording everything around him. Jay has been recording himself for 7 months, though, and supposedly not all of it is just him driving. Do note that while there are much less tapes, there's a hard drive, which could be huge - if Entry 29 is of indication, it will probably contain the recordings of the chest cam.

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we'll mos tlikely be getting videos more rapidly, they just did alot of shooting over the past couple of weeks, and so I'd assume that it will take less time to go through these videos than it did alex's, especially when he gets ahalfway through and sees TTA's raw footage Very Happy

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You may have noticed how the camera has trouble focusing at one of the walls of the interior. At 2:41 the camera zooms straight at a text in the wall and still fails to focus, but around 2:45-2:46 the camera points there again and suddenly focuses:

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/9452/34water.png

The focus stays for just a few frames, and then Jay turns away. The timing here looks flat out deliberate. The text says either WATCH or WATER.


Water reminds me that it's raining in #34. Hasn't there been speculation that water has some sort of a protective function? That would explain why nothing happens.

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Radiolab Hope wrote:
You may have noticed how the camera has trouble focusing at one of the walls of the interior. At 2:41 the camera zooms straight at a text in the wall and still fails to focus, but around 2:45-2:46 the camera points there again and suddenly focuses:

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/9452/34water.png

The focus stays for just a few frames, and then Jay turns away. The timing here looks flat out deliberate. The text says either WATCH or WATER.


Water reminds me that it's raining in #34. Hasn't there been speculation that water has some sort of a protective function? That would explain why nothing happens.


I'm not sure if that graffiti is significant, but I definitely agree that the focusing on that corner stands out for some reason. It doesn't have as an organic of pace as the rest of the video does. I'm not sure it's the graffiti we're supposed to be paying attention to, though, necessarily, although I don't know what else they could be trying to draw our attention to.

Also, that theory of water being protective may hold some weight if they decide to confirm that their Operator does have some ties to igniting fires. I know J's apartment burning down could be linked to the Operater, but it could also be coincidence.

Lastly on a side note, I'm starting to consider the possibility that this isn't the building the return address led J to. First off, there's not even an address on the thing. Second, he was driving when he's on his way to the location the return address led him, and there's clearly a road outside this place, so where is his car?

I dunno, just a thought.

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Yeah, the "CAMERA USED FLASH" portion of the video seems normal to me, from the little that I know of cameras (based entirely on my own).
Speaking of, does anyone know what kind of camera they Do use? I thought I remembered it being talked about, but I don't recall the exact type.

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Well, this entry explains his Tweet "This feels all too familiar." He's watching footage that he took, and he's recognizing it. So he wasn't memory wiped 100% (and he wasn't a zombie), it's just blocked somehow. And those tapes were left in his room to help him recover that lost time (otherwise the tapes would have been destroyed, right?).

Now look back at Entry 28, when Jessica said Jay's name "Just sounds familar, I don't know." The word "familiar" was definitely reused for a reason. She was with Jay during those seven months, and their activity is probably on the tapes.

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The flare out is caused by the camera's auto white balance trying to adjust to suddenly being outside again. You can do it yourself on almost any day.

However, some one stated how rain may have a protective function. This seems to fit. We all know Slendy seems to have some kind of magnetic, or electromagnetic field around him. Rain, or similar falling debris, would inhibit this greatly.

J, NEVER LEAVE THE SHOW. EVER.

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The metal sheet was not pushed over by a gust of wind. If it had been, the thing that was protruding up from behind the sheet when it was upright would still be visible somewhere. It can't have leaped out of the window by itself.

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