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Playmer
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madfish wrote:

Aperion wrote:

First off their is still no confirmation that masky and TTA are the same person

Watch entry 19, then watch Return.

Inconclusive, however damning.

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 2:03 am

madfish
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Playmer wrote:

madfish wrote:

Aperion wrote:

First off their is still no confirmation that masky and TTA are the same person

Watch entry 19, then watch Return.

Inconclusive, however damning.

I think it's extremely extremely unlikely that TTA is not Tim

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 2:10 am

Playmer
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madfish wrote:

Playmer wrote:

madfish wrote:

Aperion wrote:

First off their is still no confirmation that masky and TTA are the same person

Watch entry 19, then watch Return.

Inconclusive, however damning.

I think it's extremely extremely unlikely that TTA is not Tim

And I agree with you, unfortunately our evidence isn't 100% conclusive, we'll just have to wait to know for sure.

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 2:20 am

Aperion
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madfish wrote:

Aperion wrote:

First off their is still no confirmation that masky and TTA are the same person

Watch entry 19, then watch Return.

Even if Tim is totheark return dosn't prove either is against Jay
I just re-watched return and filming a Jay while he's passed out isn't exactly harming and as we both know Jay is still kicking around.

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 2:21 am

madfish
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Aperion wrote:

madfish wrote:

Aperion wrote:

First off their is still no confirmation that masky and TTA are the same person

Watch entry 19, then watch Return.

sneaking into someone's room and making them disappear for 3 hours without any memory of what happened isn't exactly friendly though.

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 2:26 am

Aperion
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madfish wrote:

Aperion wrote:

madfish wrote:

Aperion wrote:

First off their is still no confirmation that masky and TTA are the same person

Watch entry 19, then watch Return.

sneaking into someone's room and making them disappear for 3 hours without any memory of what happened isn't exactly friendly though.

For all we know slendy may have had his mind on eating/raping/melting/whateveritisslendydoesing Jay that night and by removing him from the premises Masky saved him creepy? sure but possibly necessary.

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 2:33 am

madfish
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Aperion wrote:

madfish wrote:

Aperion wrote:

madfish wrote:

Aperion wrote:

First off their is still no confirmation that masky and TTA are the same person

Watch entry 19, then watch Return.

sneaking into someone's room and making them disappear for 3 hours without any memory of what happened isn't exactly friendly though.

An interesting possibility.

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 2:41 am

Milkdudds92
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Aperion wrote:

madfish wrote:

Aperion wrote:

madfish wrote:

Aperion wrote:

First off their is still no confirmation that masky and TTA are the same person

Watch entry 19, then watch Return.

sneaking into someone's room and making them disappear for 3 hours without any memory of what happened isn't exactly friendly though.

Ah, but then why would he take Jay to the Operator?

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 11:56 am

TheNarrator
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Milkdudds92 wrote:

Ah, but then why would he take Jay to the Operator?

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Ask yourself this, why would TTA post on Jay's Youtube account, what he could have posted to his own? If it was to Jay, Jay would've seen it when someone pointed it out to him. Why post it on *his*? Masky, however, would have ample time to do it. I mean, who creeps on Jay's sleeping habits? Oh, that's right Masky. He would've had time to load it up from a jump drive and everything.

And Alex's drawings. "Sees me" "Speaks to me" etc etc. It's a very big possibility that Alex really is totheark. He really does have access to ALL of the tapes. Every. single. one. Maybe he left sme behind by accident? I don't know.

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 12:11 pm

Zarggg
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TheNarrator wrote:

Maybe totheark isn't Masky, maybe he's Alex? I mean, Alex would have access to the footage and the latest entry really does show that something is amiss with Tim and Alex.

The biggest argument against this theory is that it was practically impossible for Alex to have recorded the one TTA video of Jay getting the camera battery out of his car.

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 1:49 pm

Dray
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[Odysseus] wrote:

What if Jay, during the rest of the time he has no memory of, went along "crazy-Alex" route and doesn't know it? Sure, this assumes a lot, but I think it would be quite interesting. Keep in mind as well that TTA's Fragments video says "you are broken" and "you cannot be fixed." Maybe the use of the second person terms indicates Jay, and he's just using Alex as a point of comparison. Also, it may explain why Tim comes to the hotel. If he knows of Jay's memory loss, maybe he was testing to see if Jay is still Chaotic Jay.

I hadn't considered this, but it could be very interesting. It would lend some credence as to why Jay lost his memory and seems to have started over again from his seven month blackout. If Tim has the ability to make people lose time, what better way to doublecheck that Jay doesn't go down the same road, twice? That still leaves the question of how Jessica got there and where she is now, if she's still alive. I feel like it's going to be a while before we get that puzzle piece... but I imagine that he'll have to go back and find her eventually, or something. Ugh, I hope she doesn't become the new Alex in terms of the story being about chasing someone down.

TheNarrator wrote:

Maybe totheark isn't Masky, maybe he's Alex? I mean, Alex would have access to the footage and the latest entry really does show that something is amiss with Tim and Alex.

And.

A big thing, if Tim is TTA, why would he have used Jay's youtube? He has his own. He could've posted it there. BUT.

As I stated in the entry 35 thread:

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Ask yourself this, why would TTA post on Jay's Youtube account, what he could have posted to his own? If it was to Jay, Jay would've seen it when someone pointed it out to him. Why post it on *his*? Masky, however, would have ample time to do it. I mean, who creeps on Jay's sleeping habits? Oh, that's right Masky. He would've had time to load it up from a jump drive and everything.

And Alex's drawings. "Sees me" "Speaks to me" etc etc. It's a very big possibility that Alex really is totheark. He really does have access to ALL of the tapes. Every. single. one. Maybe he left sme behind by accident? I don't know.

Oh, not this tired argument again. If Totheark and the masked figure are two different people, why would they be working in tandem, especially if TTA is Alex and Tim tried to stab him in #35? We've seen hide nor hair of any of the other cast members for over a year; I think that if they wanted to give some indication that any of them were involved, they would have at least dropped a hint. Chances are that IG they needed fodder through which the Operator could chew to get to the main characters, and OOG, they probably didn't want those actors anymore. Choose either option. I just don't think that there's evidence that Totheark is anyone other than the masked guy, who is Tim, who has been a more prominent character. While Alex has been prominent, they weren't working together in #35 so I think that helps to null the argument that they were buddies.

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 2:21 pm

morscata12
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I'm going to throw my support behind the "Tim is ToTheArk" theory. Here are some notes to back that up:
- ToTheArk first responded to Entry 9, the first entry to show/showcase Tim. Although other characters were involved (and it was supposed to be a scene from Alex's movie), this was really a confrontation between Alex and Tim. Three days after Entry 9, ToTheArk sends his "regards" to Jay.
- Three days after Entry 13, ToTheArk sends a response to Jay, "remember me". Whether this is a question or a demand, this does seem to indicate that ToTheArk wants Jay to remember his/her identity, and that the video should narrow it down a bit. Since it is the followup to Alex's adventure, the hint seems to be "I'm not Alex, but you knew me back then."
- ToTheArk's "Messages" accused Jay of filming his room and not telling the audience. Jay then posts Entry 19, showing Masky staring at the camera in Jay's room. Jay does not post footage of any other intruders in his room.

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 3:03 pm

Valadar917
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Aperion wrote:

First off their is still no confirmation that masky and TTA are the same person
anyway the rationalization I heard is that all those "attacks" on jay by masky were for jay's own good like the first time masky appeared when he tackeled jay consider for a second that right afterwards masky started seizing and the operator appears immediately afterwards Masky may well have just taken a bullet for jay also when he took jay from his home that may have been some form of protection we really don't know that tim/masky has ever tried to hurt jay.

It would be a massive surprise if Masky and TTA were two different people. That would be a curveball. Considering that Masky appears in so many of the TTA videos, it's not a massive leap of faith to assume that they are the same.

As I said before, if he's really on Jay's side, he isn't very good at showing that. Pretty much every time he appeared (Entry videos or otherwise), he seemed like an enemy.

You do have a point with him never hurting Jay. But it looked like he attempted to. What we do know for sure, however, is that Masky is against Alex (entry #35), which is certainly getting us somewhere.

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 4:26 pm

Aperion
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Valadar917 wrote:

Aperion wrote:

I say were not sure because it hasn't been offically confirmed yet I know most people think TTA and timasky are the same person (unless TTA isn't just one person) anyway yeah masky looks like a threat to jay but that dosn't mean he actually is the real question we have now is what is timasky's motive?
and frankly what's alex's motive?
who's on what side?
what are their relations to slendy?
somehow I doubt we will ever get a clear answer to these.

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 5:00 pm

Magyk
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Valadar917 wrote:

Aperion wrote:

What a lot of people have mentioned is that Masky has never really tried to hurt Jay. He does get royally owned at both Brian's house and the hotel. He could just be trying to scare him off, rather than actually be trying to hurt him.

Also, I've always personally felt that in "Return" TiMasky (who I believe to be TTA) was leading the Operator away from Jay. What other reason would the Operator have to just walk right by him?

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 5:28 pm

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