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simplicityjones
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 		foreign matter
skimming the threads, if the power source is a foreign matter it doesn't JUST mean that it came from space. Something that is unknown is foreign. Foreign is a term that simply describes something as not being indigenous or the norm.

If Josh's dad is a cave specialist. He may be familiar with the norm. That was why he was chosen. He specialized in the known, how better to identify or categorize an unknown?


Given his specialty he wasn't your typical scientists. He wasn't the type that dissects and analyzes everything down to it's last molecule. He wasn't described as a geologist or a biologist, he was specifically known as a speleologist. It just makes me think he's the odd man out. He was the conscience of the group. SO if he found a foreign matter and it was either able to communicate with him he would be more prone to see it as a sensient being. Could you cut up E.T.? Or maybe he wanted to promote free energy to the world and was going to make a big discovery known to all and the POWERS that be wanted to prevent the discovery.


Given the above tangent. If the object of question was being kept in a a small (assuming) metal cylinder, then I'm thinking moon rock. It had to be solid and most likely mineral like. No one would keep a live thing, unless it was cave dwelling and anaerobic, in a sealed metal container.

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 		Foreign and alien basically mean the same thing anyway, it's just gone out of fashion to call them 'space aliens' or 'aliens from mars' etc.

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 		Re: foreign matter
simplicityjones wrote:
Given the above tangent. If the object of question was being kept in a a small (assuming) metal cylinder, then I'm thinking moon rock. It had to be solid and most likely mineral like. No one would keep a live thing, unless it was cave dwelling and anaerobic, in a sealed metal container.


Maybe the container is filled with something akin to antimatter, which would very much require containment?

Agreed with Josh's dad being the 'odd man out' in this operation — that very much fits the CE3K mould (as a homage) of Loughlin being the mapmaker enlisted to speak French who provides the lat/long solution. Same with Roy Neary, who was declared "an expert" because he knew the line tension ratings in the blackout area.

In short, it's your 'specific skill' that always sets you apart and sets you on the path to adventure in these films. Spielberg's heroes are often the "different" ones who don't fit in and end up being chosen for that reason.

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 		All of the speculation is fascinating, but...

On the October 21 chat we have this stated:

Mysterio: tyell me exactly what they were

Josh: that scrap of film from the canister, a picture
Of some guys in front of a building, looks like a hangar?
And a metal cyilinder with three dots on it

Mysterio: is there anything inside the cylinder?

Josh: no it's empty, why?

So, Josh doesn't have a complete reel of film--probably cut up in sections and dispersed among those directly involved (including Minker, Sr. and the kids in SCool and according to Josh the cylinder was empty, so unless we're talking about something invisible, we're left with taking Josh's word for it.

We've been given many scraps of film, Mysterio didn't seem as interested with the empty cylinder as he/she was with the comic book, but what about the picture of the guys in front of a building? Where is that? or any link to that?

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 		But was the cylinder always empty? Are there more cylinders which aren't empty?

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 		Yes empty cylinder but there was a purpose for it at one point. It obviously contained something. What remains to be seen. I'm surprised that we haven't been provided the picture of the hanger with men in front of it. It had to have a purpose if it was mentioned. Otherwise what would be the point, just to inform us that there were men in front of a hanger? Woo Whoo.... Wink I'm thinking that photo may have more bearing in the near future. Once we figure out the D 12 inference we may be able to figure out more. I'm still of the notion that the D 12 referral is to codec, coding and decoding script. Since it is for AV material and Mysterio wants the book uploaded via D 12 coding that's my guess.

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 		Re: foreign matter
simplicityjones wrote:
skimming the threads, if the power source is a foreign matter it doesn't JUST mean that it came from space. Something that is unknown is foreign. Foreign is a term that simply describes something as not being indigenous or the norm.

Given his specialty he wasn't your typical scientists. He wasn't the type that dissects and analyzes everything down to it's last molecule. He wasn't described as a geologist or a biologist, he was specifically known as a speleologist. It just makes me think he's the odd man out. He was the conscience of the group.


Foreign doesn't mean unknown, it means something that does not belong. A strange discovery in a cave is only foreign if it is plainly out of place in that cave. Mysterios wording does make me think the material was from space, he doesn't give any indication where it was found, he only says it did not belong there. So the location it was found is not important but the fact that it was foreign was important. If the foreign material was found in a cave then it did not come from the cave, since it's a potential alternate energy source it is likely not man made (as that indicates it is beyond current technology). So we have some energy source from somewhere different to where it was found that is not man made... Sounds like there's not many other explanations other than extraterrestrial.

Also I find your generalisation and stereotypes about scientists offensive. In order to have a conscience we have to study a specialist field? You are assuming his beliefs based on a job title while implying every other branch of science creates scientists who are soulless monsters. How would you describe a "typical scientist"? Are you just basing all your thinking on what you see in films? If I were you I'd think before I insulted an entire profession.

I think he's the odd man out because he seems to be at the centre of the whole freaking game (and possibly film).

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 		Couldn'y the energy source be the alien? What if it gives off some kind of energy or something? Also, may be off topic i dont know, but does one of the black and white pics look like an examining tank with some evil looking fish inside? relating back to coacalanth? Someone said back a while ago that he saw an eel face. Thats what im talking about. Something smells FISHY. Cool

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 		Re: foreign matter
Dust King: "Also I find your generalisation and stereotypes about scientists offensive. In order to have a conscience we have to study a specialist field? You are assuming his beliefs based on a job title while implying every other branch of science creates scientists who are soulless monsters. How would you describe a "typical scientist"? Are you just basing all your thinking on what you see in films? If I were you I'd think before I insulted an entire profession. "



Okay, being in the health care field and having dissected my share of furry and not so furry creatures and grown a plethora of bacteria and fungal cultures I understand your fury. But you got to lighten up. This is a forum about a GAME. And I am sorry that my movie induced generalization was soooo offensive. How many sci-fi movies have you seen? Usually there are the antagonists, the scientists that feel the need to dissect down to the last molecule, the very last bodily function. Then there are the protagonists, the ones who see the alien being as a whole, a life and don't believe in it's destruction and feel the need to emancipate the being. HELLO McFLY.... this is a movie generalization. And if this is sooo offensive please PM me and leave it out of this forum. Thank you.... Anyone else agree?

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 		@Dust King... This is a movie, meaning it will have stereotypes in it. It's nothing to get offended about if someone is pointing one of them out

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 		Perhaps worth adding that this ARG started with links to newspaper articles about Kennedy's nuke test ban treaty speech, so there's always the chance that at least the backstory of SUPER 8 might rework the classic sci-fi idea of genetic mutation.

Some strange, mutated lifeform found in a cave near the Nevada testing grounds. Monstrous but not alien in the extraterrestrial sense (just like Clover). The scariest thing to arise from the 'mystery box' of Earth's deepest, unexplored recesses. Perhaps possessing unknown powers or powered by adaptation to nuclear fallout.

Sounds like something a speleologist might stumble upon or attempt to classify when ordered to on a gov't mission. Possibly.

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 		Sorry If I offended anyone, I'm not really in a good place at the moment (Christchurch NZ actually) so Sorry for taking things a bit to seriously at the moment.

I guess I just hope the movie doesn't follow those stereotypes either...

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 		I can imagine the stress and worry you must be going through, but I've really seen so little hate on this board, and I have PM'd Simplicity and find her a very compassionate person who is in a noble profession--a profession that is helping to save your countrymen in this terrible time. She happens to be a smart Sci-Fi lover and let's face it, there are generalizations and stereotypes in all areas of society, and film is a reflection of that.

Hope your family and friends are OK, but I'm sure that after all is said and done, you will no doubt lose someone you know.

Prayers and peace to you,

XL

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Dust King wrote:
Sorry If I offended anyone, I'm not really in a good place at the moment (Christchurch NZ actually) so Sorry for taking things a bit to seriously at the moment.

I guess I just hope the movie doesn't follow those stereotypes either...


Understandable seeing what you guys are going through. Hope all is well and that nothing like that happens again

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Xeno Lambrose wrote:
Hope your family and friends are OK, but I'm sure that after all is said and done, you will no doubt lose someone you know.

Prayers and peace to you,


I think everyone on this board shares the same sentiment Dusty.

I'm from over the ditch. Be safe and we're all thinking of you are your countrymen.

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